Other then the number of drops and the Greens that drop out of them, are the gold items that CAN drop from the dungeon chests all the same?
I've being doing a few dungeons lately and this particular dungeon, i've ran it about 20 times, cave me 15 caster items, 1 gold shield, 1 green, 2 onyx and 1 diamond.
so are all the dungeons chests the same or are some better then others? Will rare items such like saurians, pyoclastics, runics only drop in "elite" dungeon chests? i don't want to farm a dungeons that will never drop a certain skin.
anyone notice any patterns?
Are all dungeon chests created equally?
Carboplatin
Lord Natural
The pattern I've been noticing is that I get a useless wand from the chests 100% of the time.
Sergeant of Marines
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The pattern I've been noticing is that I get a useless wand from the chests 100% of the time.
QFT, seems you and I are in the same boat!
bungusmaximus
Hmm, help me on this one, if one chest drops a req 13 purple inspiration wand of pruning and the other chest drops a req 13 divine favor purple monk staff are they equal then?
I would say they both equally suck :P
I would say they both equally suck :P
trielementz
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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Hmm, help me on this one, if one chest drops a req 13 purple inspiration wand of pruning and the other chest drops a req 13 divine favor purple monk staff are they equal then?
I would say they both equally suck :P nah. pruning rocks. u deal ~3 damage more to those frisky aloes when you wand them.
where'd u get it from?
I would say they both equally suck :P nah. pruning rocks. u deal ~3 damage more to those frisky aloes when you wand them.
where'd u get it from?
Melkorium
I got a Runic Blade from Bloodstone chest (it was Req 13 though, still looks neat on my mesmer with the rose focus). I consider Bloodstone one of the easiest dungeons so i don't think the rare skins are restricted toe elite areas.
Phoenix Tears
drops in GW:En are simple not worth to be called "high end"
GW:EN disappoints in that point massively imo, i expected to see in dungeon chests only maxed gold items which have a req standart of 7-10, then it would be imo high end items and under these also green items with some nice special new skins, maybe some under them animated.
but what do we get ? purple useless shit, gold items that can be even not max damage and shit that has a req. of 13 ?, Come on, such shit is not "high end", this shit ends only as "high garbage"
Then such drops like 1 Diamond or 1 Onyx, imo a bit cheap, when there would drop more of them per player, it would be at least logical.
Look at the dungeon cheast, how big it is and then there comes out 1 small Diamond ? i please u, that sucks.
me personally interests in the moment, how big the drop chances are for the golden polymock figures ?
or i've got once dropped 1 piece of alcohol and a snowman maker in the snowman dungeon, wow, thats really valuable shit, and only 1 ea.
Anet is really very tight-fisted in kind of drops, why has everything valuable ever to be only 1, where the player could really expect to get a bit more from the things
GW:EN disappoints in that point massively imo, i expected to see in dungeon chests only maxed gold items which have a req standart of 7-10, then it would be imo high end items and under these also green items with some nice special new skins, maybe some under them animated.
but what do we get ? purple useless shit, gold items that can be even not max damage and shit that has a req. of 13 ?, Come on, such shit is not "high end", this shit ends only as "high garbage"
Then such drops like 1 Diamond or 1 Onyx, imo a bit cheap, when there would drop more of them per player, it would be at least logical.
Look at the dungeon cheast, how big it is and then there comes out 1 small Diamond ? i please u, that sucks.
me personally interests in the moment, how big the drop chances are for the golden polymock figures ?
or i've got once dropped 1 piece of alcohol and a snowman maker in the snowman dungeon, wow, thats really valuable shit, and only 1 ea.
Anet is really very tight-fisted in kind of drops, why has everything valuable ever to be only 1, where the player could really expect to get a bit more from the things
bungusmaximus
Yup, for 1.5k a lockpick I expect more then a purple req13 spawning power PWNER of Suckage. Usually I get useful hero weapons out of chests, but even my heroes bitch-slap me and go on strike until they get better gear. Back to TOPK then :P
anshin
i got a Tall Shield req 13 tactics +27hp from Frostmaw's, besides the diamond...
i don't actually think there are better chests... i just think there are VERY unlucky people who God simply thinks: "If this guy is that unlucky maybe a bit more of unluckyness might do the trick for him." (that's me btw)
good luck on the other chests... as my boss says: "You're condemned to success!"...
i don't actually think there are better chests... i just think there are VERY unlucky people who God simply thinks: "If this guy is that unlucky maybe a bit more of unluckyness might do the trick for him." (that's me btw)
good luck on the other chests... as my boss says: "You're condemned to success!"...
RTSFirebat
I've had some nice drops from Dungeon chests, and yes some Dungeons drop worst stuff then others. Still that is the name of the game, its all about luck.
Cebe
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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Yup, for 1.5k a lockpick I expect more then a purple req13 spawning power PWNER of Suckage.
COOL! Was it a Max Damage PWNER of Suckage? All I've been getting are non-max ones. Oh well, I keep telling myself it's "lvl 20 content"...maybe one day I'll believe it.
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by anshin
i don't actually think there are better chests... i just think there are VERY unlucky people who God simply thinks: "If this guy is that unlucky maybe a bit more of unluckyness might do the trick for him." (that's me btw)
good luck on the other chests... as my boss says: "You're condemned to success!"...
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
COOL! Was it a Max Damage PWNER of Suckage? All I've been getting are non-max ones. Oh well, I keep telling myself it's "lvl 20 content"...maybe one day I'll believe it.
It was max yes, now don't tell me I have to consider myself extraordinary lucky :P
SotiCoto
Shards of Orr chest....
It provided me with One Diamond.... for the week or whatnot that I was hopelessly trying to fight my way through it.... When I eventually made it through I was rewarded with one measly diamond. NEVER again.
tyche7
I am and have been THOROUGHLY disappointed myself with ALL drops - from dungeon chests, from locked chests, and in general ALL drops in GWEN. I get better drops playing nightfall's low end areas than I do in GWEN. So I don't have THAT bad of luck because I get decent items there. It's just in GWEN I get crap 99.99999% of the time. Regardless of whether it's an elite area/dungeon or just a drop. They need to fix this if they're going to hold people's interest. Personally one of the reasons I played nightfall so long was b/c the rewards you get periodically from playing it. I felt like I accomplished something by getting X item, etc. I don't feel that way in GWEN. I feel more like it's a grind-fest with VERY LITTLE reward. I got ALL of my characters through nightfall (mind you I have about 15)...I don't know if I'm going to do more than 2 in GWEN. *sigh*
HayesA
Man, you guys must have been really unlucky. I've got greens, q9 Runic Blades, q10 Ele Swords, Onyx Gemstones, Diamonds.... etc etc etc.
Xitoahc
Gah. I'll just quote what I said on another forum on a related topic:
While Duncan is now properly "balanced", the incentive to try out many of the other dungeons is actually very low, unless purely for fun.Quote: Let's take a look at the dungeons: Key:/ = or Cathedral of Flames: Incentive: Diessa Chalice- The only way to get these for the Blindfold headgear. Frostmaw's Burrows: Incentive: Diamonds- Guaranteed Diamond drop + either a Rare Item/Unique Item/Diamond/Onyx/Polymock piece. Fronis Irontoe's Lair: Incentive: Dwarven Ale/Aged Dwarven Ale- Quick/Fun way to get these ales to expand on Drunkard title/PvE-Skill use without resorting to buy either. Secret Lair of the Snowmen: Incentive: Best place to farm Dwarven reputation points, and a nice chance at Candy Canes and Spiked Eggnog. Slavers' Exile: Incentive: Four Chests of the Slaver. Each giving a chance for Diamond/Onyx or Rare Item/Unique Item. And the final Hierophant's Chest with a guaranteed Onyx and Deldrimor Armor Remnant + a Rare item/Unique Item/Polymock piece/Diamond/Onyx. The rest: -Catacombs of Kathandrax -Rragar's Menagerie -Ooze Pit -Darkrime Delves -Sepulchre of Dragrimmar -Raven's Point -Vloxen Excavations -Bogroot Growths -Bloodstone Caves -Shards of Orr -Oola's Lab -Arachni's Haunt -Heart of the Shiverpeaks Only Incentive: A chance at a Random rare item or Polymock piece or Unique Item or Onyx or Diamond from the chest at end. 5/18 Dungeons give a rather profitable incentive and are worth the time, while 13/18 are not truly worth the time unless you're only after the Unique at the end and even then the chance at the Unique is low because its a 1/5 chance. And even then even the Unique's lack in original skin, even Duncan's Unqiues are basically just a random Rare Item dyed black. If they had given more thought to each, and gave each dungeon at least one original skin, as seen in other campaign "dungeons" like Urgoz Warren's: Urgoz Longbow or The Deep's: Kanaxai's Axe, it would of given a greater incentive to do each. As it is now, the only GW:EN dungeon that will let you walk out with your pockets feeling full is still and only Slavers' Exile. darktyco
My first dungeon boss chest (the excavations) dropped an Onyx gemstone... sweet!
But the 6 other boss chests I have opened since then have just dropped either diamonds or crappy golds ChoKILLate[FDG]
The poster was talking about dungeon chests...not locked chests.
 and Xitoahc answered it perfectly! You will always get max damage if a gold drops, but the drop is random. One dungeon will not drop a higher percentage of swords/axes...etc. Pompeyfan
I don't buy this some people are lucky/unlucky thing - from what I can see it appears as if some people are just earmarked for the good stuff whatever and others aren't - if it were down to 'luck' or totally random it should even out over time, but it dosen't.
So far in GW:EN I've done nearly every quest, filled the hero book, and done 19/20 in the dungeon book - yet I've not had a single green drop or a decent gold for that matter and I've given up on locked chests as I had 48 purples and 4 golds from 52 chests opened and of the golds they're nearly always for paragon, mesmer, ritualist, monk or assassin - all the 5 professions I don't play and invaribaly req 12 or 13, and none max so only merchant material. In the 27 month's I've been playing GW in which I've completed all 4 campaigns - 3 of them with 5 different characters I've yet to see a white dye, only had 5 blacks drop and had zero hign-end max weapons drop. The best the new hidden chests in GW:EN dungeons have produced is 2 monster claws with the rest just a few gold coins. My last FoW trip saw 7 of the party members get gold drops and 5-6 shards each yet none for my character, and in all my UW trips, my ranger has never had an ecto drop ever. Yet, I've been in parties where others get lets of good drops and it's usually the same players who get them. Npw I could understand if my drops were poor due to farming and constantly re-doing areas, but I don't farm at all (too boring) and just do missions and quests usually in a party.
Carboplatin
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Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
The poster was talking about dungeon chests...not locked chests.
and Xitoahc answered it perfectly! You will always get max damage if a gold drops, but the drop is random. One dungeon will not drop a higher percentage of swords/axes...etc. yes i am not talking about locked chests. we all know locked chests are not worth it. I am talking about END OF DUNGEON CHESTS. so the end of dungeon chest for slavers = end of any other dungeon chest of much much easier dungeons. except the greens and # of drops. HayesA
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Originally Posted by Xitoahc
Gah. I'll just quote what I said on another forum on a related topic:
Heart of the Shiverpeak chest ALWAYS spawned some goodie for me; it hasn't spawn a crap yet.
Roo Ella
lol I suck at the chests but when I play with a mate in a dungeon
HE ALWAYS gets at lest 2 gold drops min per run and almost never breaks the lockpicks I get crappy drops and break my picks we both have similar Treasure Hunter and Lucky ranks so that can't be it lol since GW:EN came out I have only had 1 gold drop in the entire time. Think I'm just cursed. EDIT doh just read the edit it's end chests your talking about soz move along nothing to read in this post.
tyche7
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Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]
The poster was talking about dungeon chests...not locked chests.
and Xitoahc answered it perfectly! You will always get max damage if a gold drops, but the drop is random. One dungeon will not drop a higher percentage of swords/axes...etc. I beg to differ here.. you don't even want to KNOW how many NON-max golds I've gotten out of GWEN. This happens all across the board was my point - dungeon chests AND locked chests - doesn't seem to matter for me. But just b/c it's gold DOES NOT mean it's max...if it does for you than thank your lucky stars you aren't like the rest of us.
Brewmaster
If the Dungeon chests dropped only high end req 7-10 crap, would it truly be high-end? I mean, why would ANet want everyone to get the best weapon. I've gotten more useless crap out of chests than I ever have in other campaigns, but that doesn't bother me. I'd be worried if all we got was max and low req. The prices would drop, but I've always enjoyed playing to get better equipment than otehr people. You could say that you want an equal game, but do you really? Do you really want to be lke everyone else, have the same things as everyone else, and know that the best skins can be bought for less than 50k? I'm hapy when I see an entire party, including myself, get all purples from a locked chest, or all req 13 butterfly mirrors from a dungeon chest. To me, that means that when I do get a req 9 runic blade or pyroclastic or anythings else, it's still worth unholy amounts of gold or it sets me apart from the rest of the Guild Wars players. Flaunting and showing off is the reason we get FOW or even 15k Armor, because there is always someone who doesn't have it, can't get it for a long time, and will be impressed until they do.
~Brew
WarKaster
all i have gotten out of dungeon chest so far are mostly crap gold off hands and the required gemstone or diamond drop.....
nothing beats seeing a gold req13 skull brush drop. Aranox
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all i have gotten out of dungeon chest so far are mostly crap gold off hands and the required gemstone or diamond drop.....
nothing beats seeing a gold req13 skull brush drop. Oh really? Well...
Lysander Freeman
I get golds, and more golds. Personally I don't care about gold items because my heros are all stocked up with mostly greens and those that don't have greens have golds. Ah, I did get one green drop from Cathedral of Flames last night.
I would like to have gotten at least one gold polymock piece in... 21 dungeons. I started doing them again, starting with the ones the wiki says have a chance to drop polymock pieces. A friend got two polymock pieces, one from Cathedral of Flames and one from Frostmaw, so it is possible... At least the dungeons are fun and you get more reputation and some gold while doing them. I think they should up the gold in the hidden chests. three hidden chests in Chatheral gave me about 150 gold each. that was it.
Darko_UK
At first all my drops suck but yesterday I got this
 and today I got an Onyx gemstone, 2 dungeons in 2 days xD So yeah Im *sure* they are equal xD WasAGuest
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Originally Posted by Pompeyfan
I don't buy this some people are lucky/unlucky thing - from what I can see it appears as if some people are just earmarked for the good stuff whatever and others aren't - if it were down to 'luck' or totally random it should even out over time, but it dosen't.
So far in GW:EN I've done nearly every quest, filled the hero book, and done 19/20 in the dungeon book - yet I've not had a single green drop or a decent gold for that matter and I've given up on locked chests as I had 48 purples and 4 golds from 52 chests opened and of the golds they're nearly always for paragon, mesmer, ritualist, monk or assassin - all the 5 professions I don't play and invaribaly req 12 or 13, and none max so only merchant material. In the 27 month's I've been playing GW in which I've completed all 4 campaigns - 3 of them with 5 different characters I've yet to see a white dye, only had 5 blacks drop and had zero hign-end max weapons drop. The best the new hidden chests in GW:EN dungeons have produced is 2 monster claws with the rest just a few gold coins. My last FoW trip saw 7 of the party members get gold drops and 5-6 shards each yet none for my character, and in all my UW trips, my ranger has never had an ecto drop ever. Yet, I've been in parties where others get lets of good drops and it's usually the same players who get them. Npw I could understand if my drops were poor due to farming and constantly re-doing areas, but I don't farm at all (too boring) and just do missions and quests usually in a party. Finally, someone with the exact kind of luck I have! I thought I was alone in this. Metal Herc
Gotta love going through 3 floors to get a Req 13 Mesmer off hand, with no max mods to even salvage oO
Though the dungeons are entertaining. To me it seems many just aren't worth the time. Xitoahc said it, there are a few that I find worth it and the rest are lumped in the "meh" category. I plan on doing them all once, but only returning to those that I know I am going to get something good from. But GW:EN has only been out for a little while, I am hoping that ANET will tweak the other dungeons up to par with the others. They may be fun, but they are not "2 years repeating" fun.
fireflyry
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Originally Posted by Brewmaster
If the Dungeon chests dropped only high end req 7-10 crap, would it truly be high-end? I mean, why would ANet want everyone to get the best weapon. I've gotten more useless crap out of chests than I ever have in other campaigns, but that doesn't bother me. I'd be worried if all we got was max and low req. The prices would drop, but I've always enjoyed playing to get better equipment than otehr people. You could say that you want an equal game, but do you really? Do you really want to be lke everyone else, have the same things as everyone else, and know that the best skins can be bought for less than 50k? I'm hapy when I see an entire party, including myself, get all purples from a locked chest, or all req 13 butterfly mirrors from a dungeon chest. To me, that means that when I do get a req 9 runic blade or pyroclastic or anythings else, it's still worth unholy amounts of gold or it sets me apart from the rest of the Guild Wars players. Flaunting and showing off is the reason we get FOW or even 15k Armor, because there is always someone who doesn't have it, can't get it for a long time, and will be impressed until they do.
~Brew QFT The "high-end" in my eyes was always going to be the game play content and difficulty NOT the drops. Expecting EotN to suddenly yield an abundance of easy and frequent gold max drops is totally illogical and unrealistic unless you would like the GW economy to go belly up overnight. The desirability of any MMO "high-end" loot works in perfect symbiosis with the fact it's rare, hard to get and has crap drop rates. I mean...seriously....
bungusmaximus
I got a req11 tactics amethyst aegis from a chest yesterday, beatiful shield, but who runs 11 in tactics?
anyone knows if their worth a lot?
Nailstabber
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Originally Posted by HayesA
Heart of the Shiverpeak chest ALWAYS spawned some goodie for me; it hasn't spawn a crap yet.
I have to agree on this one, since i found out it was farmable and 3/4th runnable, I've been helping people with this quest, getting in the end so far:2 greens, 2 onyx gemstones, 1 diamond and 4 golds from that chest. Yesterday i did a quest involving red and yellow frogs (and this one is also repeatable) getting in the end a max gold brute sword req11 from that chest. When compared to locked chests or any other for that mather, i'm sticking with these quest chests from now on. |
