Ok seriously Anet, joke's over, fix Clamor of Souls.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

We are supposed to accept this piece of trash, let alone as a standard skill...but an elite ? Are you serious?

Compared with Ancestors Rage theres just no reason for this skill's elite status, Ancestor's Rage beats it at every turn and its a standard skill ?

Clamor of Souls (Elite):
Recharge time:12
Activation Time:1
Damage output: 122 (Conditional AoE, Based on surrounding allies)
Cost:10 (!)

Ancestor's Rage:
Recharge time:8
Activation Time: 1/4 (Actual damage has a 1 second delay)
Damage output: 137 (Unconditional AoE)
Cost:5

As you can see, theres no reason to waste your elite spot with this piece of junk when you have ancestors, also note ancestors (while outclassing Clamor's damage,recharge, AoE and cost) is a LOT more versatile as it can be used on other allies (such as melee !).

How i would fix Clamor:

10e, 1/4 cast, 20 recharge

Elite Spell. All foes within earshot of a spirit you control take 30...150 damage (armour ignoring), attacking foes are interrupted. (A Clamor is a howling wail, working with that theme wailing in gw usually refers to interrupting attacking foes).

Well, that's just my opinion..what do you other ritualists out there think ?

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

Seems more like a bug to me, that you should report directly to PlayNC.com
Btw. it helps posting with manners

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

I gets real passionate about my class

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Their joke was never funny to begin with

This needs fixing.

NeonPink

NeonPink

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

TIGI

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/Signed
It really does need fixing... however there are alot of Elite's out there that need a good buff or at least need abit of tweeking. Anyway i agree here, goodwork

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. G
[skill]Balthazar's Pendulum[/skill]
Yes, you managed to find a skill which was considerably better than Clamour of Souls.

@ OP: /signed.

That skill needs a drastic change.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

No No No.... if you get 8 people casting clamor at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12 thats 976 damage to all 8 other players.... The skill is fine its just that YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

www.yourdoingitwrong.com

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
No No No.... if you get 8 people casting clamor at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12 thats 976 damage to all 8 other players.... The skill is fine its just that YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

www.yourdoingitwrong.com
Do people actually follow the links they post or do they just assume their wrong spelling IS the right link?

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
No No No.... if you get 8 people casting clamor at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12 thats 976 damage to all 8 other players.... The skill is fine its just that YOUR DOING IT WRONG!
It's you are = you're.
Not your, which is possessive.

And if you have 8 people casting Ancestor's Rage at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12?

...

Guess how many braincells that took?

Drinky

Drinky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2007

HeRo

R/Mo

R!ghteous Ind!gnation is right

"And if you have 8 people casting Ancestor's Rage at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12?"

You can't, anymore.

/not signed

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
It's you are = you're.
Not your, which is possessive.

And if you have 8 people casting Ancestor's Rage at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12?

...

Guess how many braincells that took?
THANK YOU! Unfortunately, he's the typical troll. He puts one post and never reads the thread again, giggling to himself at just how funny he thought that last post was! So as much as we want him to, he's learned nothing from your post.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
No No No.... if you get 8 people casting clamor at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12 thats 976 damage to all 8 other players.... The skill is fine its just that YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

www.yourdoingitwrong.com
Oh noes you discovered my secret plan to bring back Ritualist spike !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
that's just my opinion
Someone failed reading comprehension.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

You're doing it wrong still... and thats @ level 16, but with 8 rits you should have plenty of healing anyway, I am only saying that you get a hit every time (with clamor and with 8 people casting its crazy and 1 person casting its not bad). ANYWAY... Ancestors rage isn't always going to hit effectively, but with Clamor you can hit 8 people for 122 damage every time... the skill doesn't need rebalancing imo.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
THANK YOU! Unfortunately, he's the typical troll. He puts one post and never reads the thread again, giggling to himself at just how funny he thought that last post was! So as much as we want him to, he's learned nothing from your post.
Thats cute... unfortunately I am at work now so i cant post a reply every 5 minutes. I understand what he was trying to say I am just saying that the skill is fine as is imo.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Then say it without posting links to some non-existing site. A point can still go across without pretty pictures. Well, to some.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
No No No.... if you get 8 people casting clamor at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12 thats 976 damage to all 8 other players.... The skill is fine its just that YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

www.yourdoingitwrong.com
i agree lol, this is a brutal spell if used right, i mean seriously how can you complain about this skill when [skill]"The Power Is Yours!"[/skill] still exists as is lol

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Then make it an enchantment, or have it destroy the spirit or something.

As it is, clamor of souls is utter crap. Some kind of change would let channeling rits run something other than offering of spirit for once.

EDIT:

Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
You're doing it wrong still... and thats @ level 16, but with 8 rits you should have plenty of healing anyway, I am only saying that you get a hit every time (with clamor and with 8 people casting its crazy and 1 person casting its not bad). ANYWAY... Ancestors rage isn't always going to hit effectively, but with Clamor you can hit 8 people for 122 damage every time... the skill doesn't need rebalancing imo.
ZOMG better nerf [skill]flame burst[/skill] It's non elite and vastly outclasses clamor. Also, ancestor's rage IS always going to hit effectively. Clamor won't because of the wonky requirement of standing in a big ball.

EDIT PART TWO: Tenshi, the power is yours is actually pretty good in caster heavy parties.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

R!ghteous Ind!gnation

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkobra
Then say it without posting links to some non-existing site. A point can still go across without pretty pictures. Well, to some.
Sorry... here are you pretty pictures: http://www.doingitwrong.com

Very funny site, just keep clicking on the pics.

Ultimately, with pictures or no pictures... the skill is fine as is.

NeonPink

NeonPink

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

TIGI

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. G
[wiki]Balthazar's Pendulum[/wiki]
You see, this skill would be so much better if they made it like Aeigis. Enchanting all nearby party members.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
[wiki]"The Power Is Yours!"[/wiki]
The power is yours? O.ó wtf is that a Captain Planet quote!??
Also, not one for using leet often but "OMG" -10energy degen!? For 8 Energy!?
[wiki]"Never Give Up!"[/wiki] Gives more! X_X
Sheesh if you want group energy take a BiP Necro >_< or my personal build of combine the two!
http://gw.gamependium.com/tools/builds/show/2887

p.s.
Quote:
Originally Posted by R!ghteous Ind!gnation
Haha ace xD *clicks*

Edit: Trivia from Guildwiki;
* "The Power is Yours!" is the catch-phrase of cartoon superhero Captain Planet.
* The skill icon is from the movie "Masters of the Universe" based on He-man (who is famous for saying "I have the Power!").
Haha xD That skill is now awsome. Just for that. I'm rerolling Paragon

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by FelixCarter
And if you have 8 people casting Ancestor's Rage at the same time against 8 other people at lvl 12?

...

Guess how many braincells that took?
Then you get the damage from 1 ancestor's rage.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
Then you get the damage from 1 ancestor's rage.
...Assuming you cast them all on the same target...

..But thats besides the point.

FelixCarter

FelixCarter

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
...Assuming you cast them all on the same target...

..But thats besides the point.
No, I think that is the point.

Ancestor's Rage >>>>> Clamor of Souls

No one who's sane in the head would use Clamor of Souls as it is now. Ever.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

I wouldn't use Clamor of Souls... While it initially looks good when you first cap it, it turns out to be far too unpredictable. The only way I've ever been able to get it to do any reliable damage is when I set down a few spirits where I'm standing and wait for a few monsters to start biting my blindfold off before casting. Channeling magic needs a reliable damage elite, IMO

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

i like the idea someone had on guildwiki...

Elite Hex Spell. For 2 seconds, nothing happens. When this Hex ends, for each Spirit within (your) earshot you deal 60 lightning damage to target foe and all foes nearby to target foe (maximum 30...150...180 damage). 10 energy ,3/4 cast, 10 recharge.

can maybe tone down the damage, seeing as it also hits nearby foes to target....also because i hear the faint cry of the waahhhmbulance for ritspike.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Wait, I'm still on the useless elites bit
Does anyone else find [skill]Glimmering Mark[/skill] useless?

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by holababe
Wait, I'm still on the useless elites bit
Does anyone else find [skill]Glimmering Mark[/skill] useless?
Call me lame (others have, you won't be the first, or the last), but no, I don't.

I run THAT as my elite on channeling rit: glimmering mark on a ball of melee attackers + ancestor's rage... blind warriors and rangers and sins all over the place!

But for the OP-- yea, I capped Clamor and immediately found it...useless. I do NOT want to walk into the middle of some furball fight and get hacked at, just so I can drop Clamor.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Hehe, yeah glimmering mark is WAY underrated. The only problem is it is a hex (and thus kinda worthless in places where it gets removed) and that it doesn't deal additional damage. But if you actually run it isn't THAT bad. Still, blinding surge works better in places with enchantments. Though I admit that using an air elite with a channeling rt like that is a very creative use for that skill.

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

Ya know Dahnel, CoS is one of these garbage Elites A-Net never will bother to fix until GW2 is released.
Every prof has this kind of garbage.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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That is not wway to fix it.

10e, 1/4 cast, 20 recharge
Elite Spell. Destroy target spirit. All spirits within earshot of target spirit take 30...150 lighting damage, enemies using a skill are interrupted. All spirits your party controls die.

That is a way. Since the party can't have more tha one Destruction spirit, for example.