Hi,
I'm pretty new to Guild Wars. I've only been playing for about a week. I'm level 13 already. I love the game so far but I've noticed the community seems to be pretty introverted. Is it just me or do people just kind of keep to themselves?
I've been trying to meet other players who may want to group or even just chat while running missions/quests and everyone seems tight lipped. It's almost like the whole game is npc's with the "join this guild" and "selling or running for x amount of gold" thrown in for flavor.
What's up people? Where are all the social gamers hiding?
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Jenks
Alexandra-Sweet
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What's up people? Where are all the social gamers hiding?
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Mr. G
Best advice I can give you is Find a good guild
You'll still find the odd strangers around that enjoy helping others (I pride myself on being one)
but mainly the only real option is the find a good guild, a make sure your comfortable in the guild - dont join becuase they have all the "leet" bits and 700000 members. Odd's are those leet bits are owned by nicer guilder and 699999 of the players are in-active
Btw if you ever do need help feel free to PM me - IGN <--
You'll still find the odd strangers around that enjoy helping others (I pride myself on being one)
but mainly the only real option is the find a good guild, a make sure your comfortable in the guild - dont join becuase they have all the "leet" bits and 700000 members. Odd's are those leet bits are owned by nicer guilder and 699999 of the players are in-active
Btw if you ever do need help feel free to PM me - IGN <--
undeadgun
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Best advice I can give you is Find a good guild
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EternalTempest
And any cool people you happen to pug with, add to your friends list as well.
October Jade
In my opinion, the largest reason for solitary gameplay is the presence of heroes. In the hands of knowledgeable players, they are essentially super-henchmen and can easily preempt any need to rely on outside help.
That is not to suggest that the AI is always superior to humans in every single way. However, when using them there is no risk of abandonment, inappropriate behavior/chat, or poor aggro practices.
As it stands currently, the decent players in GW are capable of marching through each campaign without spending time looking for pick-up groups and enduring the drama that often accompanies them. That leaves the less-experienced (or in some cases, just ignorant) segment of the population struggling to form teams with other players similar to themselves. The resulting futility is not pretty.
As was suggested, joining a pve-focused guild might be a good place to start. Explain to them up front that you are new and would enjoy having some assistance on your first trip through the storyline. In time, you too will become self-sufficient and require less from your companions. That, in my mind, is when GW offers the most flexibility in its content. You can play by yourself when you feel like it, or join up with some friends to tackle some of the more advanced areas in the game. It's all about having options.
That is not to suggest that the AI is always superior to humans in every single way. However, when using them there is no risk of abandonment, inappropriate behavior/chat, or poor aggro practices.
As it stands currently, the decent players in GW are capable of marching through each campaign without spending time looking for pick-up groups and enduring the drama that often accompanies them. That leaves the less-experienced (or in some cases, just ignorant) segment of the population struggling to form teams with other players similar to themselves. The resulting futility is not pretty.
As was suggested, joining a pve-focused guild might be a good place to start. Explain to them up front that you are new and would enjoy having some assistance on your first trip through the storyline. In time, you too will become self-sufficient and require less from your companions. That, in my mind, is when GW offers the most flexibility in its content. You can play by yourself when you feel like it, or join up with some friends to tackle some of the more advanced areas in the game. It's all about having options.
Aera Lure
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In my opinion, the largest reason for solitary gameplay is the presence of heroes. In the hands of knowledgeable players, they are essentially super-henchmen and can easily preempt any need to rely on outside help.
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As suggested, try finding a like-minded social PvE guild. The social players are out there - far more than you think - we simply have a lot less inclination these days to party up with strangers than we used to. That and simply keep trying in districts and missions to find parties. Sooner or later you'll build up enough friends and that may lead you to a guild you like or simply a network with whom you play regularly
Effendi Westland
Heroes were added with nightfall, they pretty much destroyed the social aspect with strangers.
Bale_Shadowscar
Yup. before Nightfall, unless you were in a guild group, you pretty much had to group with people, as the hench just weren't good enough (especially for places like ye old Thunderhead keep and the RoF missions in prophecies, and stuff like Eternal Grove). With the introduction of heroes, its become a lot easier, as you can tailor your hero builds so that they are essentially human players, but without the socialising obviously.
TheMosesPHD
Heroes encourage it but the main reason is I think because the game is so old and people who have been playing it for 2.5 years are tired of grouping with random people and failing at missions and quests.
It's sad and I actually do miss retarded PUG groups where you never know how bad you're gonna fail. That's how you get great stories to tell :P
Even so I'll finish up by agreeing that finding a good guild with fun people (not necessarily people that are good at the game, just fun
) that you like is really key to enjoying the game.
It's sad and I actually do miss retarded PUG groups where you never know how bad you're gonna fail. That's how you get great stories to tell :P
Even so I'll finish up by agreeing that finding a good guild with fun people (not necessarily people that are good at the game, just fun
) that you like is really key to enjoying the game.
You can't see me
Where are all the social gamers hiding?
Away from local chat, and I would too. 0.o
In local chat the most worthwhile conversation I've seen was in Lion's Arch district one, where two people where exchanging crude insults in an argument about who was more homosexual.
Join a guild that likes to talk. People talk in guild/alliance chat for the plain fact that you can keep idiots out.
My advice: Advertise that you're looking for a social guild that talks a lot in some major cities.
Away from local chat, and I would too. 0.o
In local chat the most worthwhile conversation I've seen was in Lion's Arch district one, where two people where exchanging crude insults in an argument about who was more homosexual.
Join a guild that likes to talk. People talk in guild/alliance chat for the plain fact that you can keep idiots out.
My advice: Advertise that you're looking for a social guild that talks a lot in some major cities.
Mohnzh
I mainly agree with the above poster in that the age of the game is the biggest factor. I saw the decline in socialness even before heroes. Back when the game first came out you always had new players asking questions in the local channels and vets answering, offering advice, and helping out in general. Now nobody is asking question, so the vets aren't offering. I think they are there, they are just quieter and probably spend a lot less time in outposts. I used to love sitting in outposts like Ascalon City or Kaineg Center and answering the random questions that got asked by all the new players. And I would stay pretty busy doing that, too. Now, I might see one or two questions an hour. No point hanging around waiting for them. So if you have any questions or need any advice, feel free to whisper me in game.
As stated before, find a good guild; and if you enjoy the convo with someone in an outpost or PUG, ask for their permission to add them to friends list. If they give the okay, then they are cool with you whispering them to talk.
As stated before, find a good guild; and if you enjoy the convo with someone in an outpost or PUG, ask for their permission to add them to friends list. If they give the okay, then they are cool with you whispering them to talk.
TheMosesPHD
Yeah, hearing random babbling about who cares what really helps make the game stay fresh, whether it's in ventrilo, or just guild chat, people talking really helps ease the boredom.
I've spent so many of my guild wars hours just chatting and joking around in guild halls, and it's always fun when you're doing something in PvE with your guildies and you get wiped out by the monsters because you're talking too much and not paying attention to the Giant Aggro of Doom!
I've spent so many of my guild wars hours just chatting and joking around in guild halls, and it's always fun when you're doing something in PvE with your guildies and you get wiped out by the monsters because you're talking too much and not paying attention to the Giant Aggro of Doom!
HawkofStorms
Yeah, its all about finding a good guild. I've know 5 of my guildies and alliance mates for over 16 months. Its hard to meet people, but that is partly because a lot of people don't want to deal with making "new friends" when they already got their core guild buddies.
Nemo the Capitalist
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Originally Posted by October Jade
In my opinion, the largest reason for solitary gameplay is the presence of heroes. In the hands of knowledgeable players, they are essentially super-henchmen and can easily preempt any need to rely on outside help.
That is not to suggest that the AI is always superior to humans in every single way. However, when using them there is no risk of abandonment, inappropriate behavior/chat, or poor aggro practices. As it stands currently, the decent players in GW are capable of marching through each campaign without spending time looking for pick-up groups and enduring the drama that often accompanies them. That leaves the less-experienced (or in some cases, just ignorant) segment of the population struggling to form teams with other players similar to themselves. The resulting futility is not pretty. As was suggested, joining a pve-focused guild might be a good place to start. Explain to them up front that you are new and would enjoy having some assistance on your first trip through the storyline. In time, you too will become self-sufficient and require less from your companions. That, in my mind, is when GW offers the most flexibility in its content. You can play by yourself when you feel like it, or join up with some friends to tackle some of the more advanced areas in the game. It's all about having options. |
NoXiFy
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Heroes encourage it but the main reason is I think because the game is so old and people who have been playing it for 2.5 years are tired of grouping with random people and failing at missions and quests.
It's sad and I actually do miss retarded PUG groups where you never know how bad you're gonna fail. That's how you get great stories to tell :P Even so I'll finish up by agreeing that finding a good guild with fun people (not necessarily people that are good at the game, just fun ) that you like is really key to enjoying the game. |
Lord Feathers
You'll also run into a LOT of "LEET" B.S. in GW as well and you have tons of folks who like to bash new players more then helping them. It is a game and good folks will make it much more enjoyable. I would work on your friends list with good folks you run into or check out guilds for a possible fit for what your looking for. I've been playing since shortly after the BETA and in my own opinion a good guild will beat your friends list and any PUG you join is a 50/50 shot at a good time or complete disaster. They do have a section in the forums here for players looking for guilds to post and there is also a guild recruitment area as well. Might not be a bad idea to check those out.
Esan
Join a guild like [XoO] that explicitly recruits and trains new players.
(No, I am not affiliated with XoO in any way.)
(No, I am not affiliated with XoO in any way.)
apatheticyeh
Do what i did, join a small, but not tiny guild. When i came back to play after a long break, i joined a guild that was starting up again. If you get to know the leader, you can get officer status and people will interact with you more. Do guild runs like FOW/UW sometimes, maybe some TA for fun. It is hard to find people to call your friends in guild wars, i just stick to my guild. Its all the online friends i could need.
Spazzer
Guild Wars, thanks to heroes and henchmen, essentially is a one-person game you share with friends. Also because of heroes and henchmen, no player in the game ever discovers that they are bad players, and so everyone you run across will feel like they are too good to have you on their team.
I'm glad you like guild wars Jenks, but it's not a highly sociable game outside of guilds. Try looking for a guild so you can start making some friends and get a little help.
I'm glad you like guild wars Jenks, but it's not a highly sociable game outside of guilds. Try looking for a guild so you can start making some friends and get a little help.
Edge Martinez
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Etta
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mr_groovy
Pugs == Fail Mission
Heroes + Henchies == Master. Then again that would be the opinion of the most experienced players. Though for instance if I have to do the first 2 missions of Cantha, I will and try out low lvl people. Then again nobody responded when I said, who wants the help of a lvl 20 paragon + hero's.
Heroes + Henchies == Master. Then again that would be the opinion of the most experienced players. Though for instance if I have to do the first 2 missions of Cantha, I will and try out low lvl people. Then again nobody responded when I said, who wants the help of a lvl 20 paragon + hero's.
Chieftain Heavyhand
Guilds are the way to go for social interaction in game. Most people shut local chat off.
Make sure you check out the guild you join. Check out their web page, if they don't have one, check to see if they are chatting away in Team/Vent speak or on Guild/Alliance chat, if not then you might want to find another guild. Especially if you're a new player. If you're interested in PvE then make sure the guild you join is PvE oriented, same for PvP. The last thing you want to do is join a PvP guild if all you want to do is PvE or vice versa.
Not trying to recruit you but google Wizardry Players Guild it is a guild I ran across that is PvE and family oriented and is active. I'm sure there are lodes more guilds that you would like. Look around and take your time.
Make sure you check out the guild you join. Check out their web page, if they don't have one, check to see if they are chatting away in Team/Vent speak or on Guild/Alliance chat, if not then you might want to find another guild. Especially if you're a new player. If you're interested in PvE then make sure the guild you join is PvE oriented, same for PvP. The last thing you want to do is join a PvP guild if all you want to do is PvE or vice versa.
Not trying to recruit you but google Wizardry Players Guild it is a guild I ran across that is PvE and family oriented and is active. I'm sure there are lodes more guilds that you would like. Look around and take your time.
quickmonty
Just adding my $.02 ~~~ Guilds are where the socializing is. There is so much BS going on in local chat that I don't even bother. Guild chat is where I socialize. Age difference doesn't really matter as we range in age from early teens to early 60's in my guild. We all have fun together.
Jenks
So I get that it's all in guild...makes sense since the game is called GUILD wars. Tracking down a good guild seems like a trick though. There are so so so many.
I joined a guild the other day but usually it's completely quiet. Well since they aren't any fun I'll keep looking. I just like chatting while I play. I don't need a pug since even with henchmen I'm pretty effective. I have a LOT of experience with online games. So I'm not looking cuz I need a group. I just want to play and socialize. So any suggestions?
I play a lot while I work. I'm a programmer for NBC and I work remotely so I have a lot of free time but I still need to be at my computer so I play guild wars. I'm 33 so I'm fairly mature but I like lively fun people cuz I'm not as mature as I probably should be for my age. Don't worry I'm not rude or inappropriate. I like pve and although I haven't tried pvp in guild wars historically I've loved it in other games. So any good ideas on which guild I should go for?
I joined a guild the other day but usually it's completely quiet. Well since they aren't any fun I'll keep looking. I just like chatting while I play. I don't need a pug since even with henchmen I'm pretty effective. I have a LOT of experience with online games. So I'm not looking cuz I need a group. I just want to play and socialize. So any suggestions?
I play a lot while I work. I'm a programmer for NBC and I work remotely so I have a lot of free time but I still need to be at my computer so I play guild wars. I'm 33 so I'm fairly mature but I like lively fun people cuz I'm not as mature as I probably should be for my age. Don't worry I'm not rude or inappropriate. I like pve and although I haven't tried pvp in guild wars historically I've loved it in other games. So any good ideas on which guild I should go for?
Mohnzh
Check out the guild advertisements here at GWG.
Duaric
I was given a dead guild with a 3/4 full hall at christmas. I love to chat, but it seems my twisted humor chases people away from joining. lol oh well. someday.... i will have more. until then, it just me. Btw, i do AB and try to keep the faction around 100k.(yes, all by myself)
Darkobra
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Pugs == Fail Mission
Heroes + Henchies == Master. Then again that would be the opinion of the most experienced players. Though for instance if I have to do the first 2 missions of Cantha, I will and try out low lvl people. Then again nobody responded when I said, who wants the help of a lvl 20 paragon + hero's. |
quickmonty
extremetop100 has a nice list of GW guilds. Most have a short description of the guild and you can visit the web sites to find out more info.
http://www.xtremetop100.com/guild-wars
http://www.xtremetop100.com/guild-wars
Redfeather1975
I chat too alot during the game Jenks.
When I played EQ2 it was similar. Local chat was usually quite and in group chat I was the one doing most of the talking. I think there are a lot of introverted gamers out there.
It's funny, outside of the game I'm not very talkative, but in the game I blab away with silliness all the time.
When I played EQ2 it was similar. Local chat was usually quite and in group chat I was the one doing most of the talking. I think there are a lot of introverted gamers out there.
It's funny, outside of the game I'm not very talkative, but in the game I blab away with silliness all the time.
Sli Ander
Other than the obvious advice about guilds already given, and the hint to look at the Guild adverts here at GWG, the only thing I can really say is that a large group of people may still be messing around with GW:EN, the new expansion. It's been out for a month already, but I'm sure lots of people are still going at it rather than returning to old stomping grounds.
And after that it may depend on what campaign you have, as certain areas in the campaigns are more populated/popular than others.
But that's just my two cents
And after that it may depend on what campaign you have, as certain areas in the campaigns are more populated/popular than others.
But that's just my two cents
Pae
You'll usually have to stick to D1 Local district of yours at certain times in big cities (gold dots when you zoom out of the map) to find people who just stand around and chat, while ignoring the spammed trade ads. You'll find people eventually, though like other people have said, an active guild is the best way to go.
While I've had some conversations with people in Local, going with a PUG usually has a bit too much of a risk, though I still do anyway. Not ALL players rage quit, flame, or are just plain clueless and won't accept advice, but when it happens, that sticks out more :P
While I've had some conversations with people in Local, going with a PUG usually has a bit too much of a risk, though I still do anyway. Not ALL players rage quit, flame, or are just plain clueless and won't accept advice, but when it happens, that sticks out more :P
drakun01
Apart from Henchmen and Heroes, there is another reason that GW is less sociable then other MMOs. Due to the very basics of it's design, Guild Wars doesn't create a group of people that you get to know as you level, like WoW and other MMOs do. Without actively trying to, I kept running into the same people from level 1 to level 70. We all kinda' knew each other. That is something you will never find in GW. The game just doesn't promote it.
Longasc
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Apart from Henchmen and Heroes, there is another reason that GW is less sociable then other MMOs. Due to the very basics of it's design, Guild Wars doesn't create a group of people that you get to know as you level, like WoW and other MMOs do. Without actively trying to, I kept running into the same people from level 1 to level 70. We all kinda' knew each other. That is something you will never find in GW. The game just doesn't promote it.
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Besides that, most "veteran" players have already some friends and trusting PUGs or other players usually does not work as well as playing with people you know. They are rather a pain than a help.
Being a starter now that GW is a rather old game and at the end of its lifecycle is surely not easy.
TBH: I would not starting playing GW now.
IslandHermet
Its the Heros and all the expirienced players, Its not that their are not enough people to get to know its everyone who has played the game for a long time knows that when there logged on they have a aggenda, another factor is your just now starting to play the game their are not too many people starting new new as you are like their was when GW first hit the market.