Getting to Gadd's Encampment=ridiculous

I hate it when they make the game challenging, too. Having to think, use a little tactics. Pain in the butt. Thats why I run around Old Ascalon on normal mode with my 20, I pwn everything.

Guildie and I cleared it all with no deaths, but you aren't after help but rather sympathy.

Guys, you can easily clear about every dungeon with Meteor shower+SH.....

For the undead in the shards of orr: Cast Meteor shower on a monk, use YMLAD on that target, cast SH and watch them falling. It helps if your hero's are using SH, too.

lol i remember this place. party kept getting wiped by the last 2 mobs that were blocking the exit. all were at 60 dp (impossible to beat them now in a fair fight) and spawned at the nearby res shrine. i thought ah screw this and flagged all my heroes and henchies right in the middle of the mobs. i ran for the exit as they leeroyed and died. took a few hits that almost killed me but i made it, lol.

Yeah, it basically comes down to the fact that you did it wrong. I wish that people would simply change their builds to beat what they are facing, rather than posting up these big whine threads about how hard things are. I did it with 4 henchmen and 3 heroes, and only once did I die (double or triple aggro). You are bad, that's all it is. Change your build and you will be good.

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1) The rank 5 requirment is very easily met by doing all quests and dungeons and very little bounty hunting as you explore.

2) You found the quest in shards of orr hard?

You do realise its not actually the dungeon quest you have to do get to Gadds encampment! The only quest you need is the one which basically says get from one end to the other! Just make sure you dont activate the main dungeon quest and it should be a walk in the park!

Im only an ele and I honestly didnt find getting there hard at all! But you sound like your having a nightmare!

Are you using AoE on your heroes? Take 3 monks like I do!

bring a smite hero with judge's insight/signets if you're melee and add sight beyond sight. Stacking condition duration reduction runes/spells won't work, they just spam blind.

If you're a caster, bring knockdowns for the monks, or shutdown, and nuke them.

I rushed to there with my war, had no problems with that kind of build.

My little experience... you can try with 3 smiter monks, like this:

[skill]Ray Of Judgment[/skill]

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one click = all dead
Ray of judgment = 110 (x2 undead) = 220 x 3 smiters = 660!

I just 600 spirit bond/smite it with my monk. In fact, I was able to come back later again and smite the whole dungeon (although Fendi wasn't fun to try and take like that ><) I was using 16 divine, so the mobs were dead before spellbreaker wore out.

You could always make Ogden a spirit bond tank ? :O

From gaile's talk page:

I have no issue with the rewards. Tanaric has it right -- I just want players to be able to experience all the that game has to offer. I'm not suggesting that this area be "dummied down" or "nerfed," not at all. I'm glad that some players like the area, that's great! But like THK a long time ago, I have to wonder if this area, or the spawns within it, could benefit from another wee look-see. (And I'm fairly sure that there are quests that -- in order to be successful in all quest trees -- do require success in this area, but I could be wrong.) --Gaile 06:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


Anyway, I found that taking 'Lost Souls' while on the primary quest increases the number of mobs in the dungeons. It leads to an insane amount of mobs at the choke point near the exit (they also conveniently camp near the rez shrine, not a good thing when your 60% dp party cannot even take down a single enemy before getting killed), which makes it really hard for a H/H team to run through.

The part about changing builds is true. However, GW was never really about using specific builds to complete a mission/ quest. Sure you can do it easier with smiters in your team, but it shouldn't be that necessary. Just my thoughts I guess, *shrug*.

In the end I went with a PUG and one fellow managed to run thru.

im not sure how it happened, but i got to gadds encampment by going thru the battledepths and just fallowed my arrow.(was a freak acident really) I didnt even try through shards of orr. Granted it was a bit longer, but from all i have read, much easier.

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lol i ran through it with just endure pain

Only way I got thru with my Ranger was to run the last bit ... only just made it. Was last person in my group alive, and we were all at -60.

I did not have Masters Quest active when I went through. Few tips.

1. Even if you are a caster, Mesmer, Priest, Ele; you should have a longbow for pulling. Any longbow you run across will do. It doesn't have to do damage. You don't need a Ranger secondary. No points in Marksmanship. Just a simple longbow. You can find no-attribute required longbows in starting areas, but any old longbow from a drop will work.

2. The fixed location groups usually have two healers. Need to split those up. Flag your party 1.5 aggro bubble diameters away, maybe a tad more. Pull with your longbow. As soon as the arrow releases, run back; don't wait for it to hit. Usually you will get maybe three wizards to come. Kill those. Go get some more. A priest may come with the second group of three or four. One less healer. When you have whittled down the group, go finish off the rest. You will get faster at this as you go along. They all dead, none of your party down. Next group, please!

3. The mobile groups include three melee guys usually. Go around those if you can. If you cannot, make sure you have a long way to run. Flag the party, pull with longbow, on the way back press R for autorun, unflag the party and keep running a long way back. If all party members are set to guard or avoid combat, they will all follow you. The melee will be in the lead. At the moment the whole group turns back, hit them with a slowdown, or ping them with an arrow again. Kill the melee, go get the rest.

Why is this even being discussed?

The area is laughably easy. Don't bring crappy heroes or crappy skillbars, and you'll be fine.

Learn to pull around a corner or along a wall.

Learn to ball enemies up.

Ball, nuke (splinter, ele aoe, what the hell does the most damage) and then move on..what precisely is the problem here?

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Actually, I think the problem is people making sweeping statements about difficulty that are entirely without merit. There's a significant difference between saying, "I can't do this" vs. "This is ridiculous, it should be fixed", especially when many other people aren't having any problems. Clearly, the problem in these cases is the player, not the game.

Also, I think the OP went the wrong way.

I agree that the area is a quite hard, but I don't think it should be changed. I just did it for the first time, and died maybe about 10 times during the whole run, just when I wanted to quit I managed to come up ith a solution for it.

I think it's good that ArenaNet makes somie missions incredibely hard, it keeps the player thinking and actually presents a challenge.

I struggled with this mission, but it's definetaly not too hard, I liked playing it.