GW 1 Future

Bmc1990

Bmc1990

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

E/Me

Well, I don't know about you all but GW 1's future doesn't look to bright being that GW 2 is now on the way. Anyone agree or disagree? Do you think Anet will have any big content before GW 2 releases?

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Hard Mode.

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Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

needs more speculation imo.

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

Its 50/50... but so far i dont see GW1 getting any better.Wish bloody anet fixed the bugs before starting gw2.If itll be half ass job with bug and other shit i dont think ill be getting gw2.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
Its 50/50... but so far i dont see GW1 getting any better.Wish bloody anet fixed the bugs before starting gw2.If itll be half ass job with bug and other shit i dont think ill be getting gw2.
90% of the problems Guildwars has cannot be fixed or cannot be fixed without screwing up more than it fixed. This is why they are going ahead with Guildwars 2.

Thunder79

Thunder79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Chaos Rising

All depends on Anet...if they keep GW1 running...I'll probably still play it...because I enjoy it and I have lots of characters to work on.

Right now I'm leaning towards not buying GW2...simply because it looks like it's going towards every other MMO out there...which I find to be less fun.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

You expected GW to last forever maybe?

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

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Eh, I can't wait for something different.

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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just started a new tyrian char, old memories here i come

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
You expected GW to last forever maybe?
Yes I did.

I really cannot see what else they can add to GW1 tbh

Despozblehero

Despozblehero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

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No. 12characters

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Yes I did.

I really cannot see what else they can add to GW1 tbh
A sorrows furnace like area?

IMO Guild Wars Prophecies + Sorrows Furnace was the perfect game.

Bmc1990

Bmc1990

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

E/Me

Quote:
Right now I'm leaning towards not buying GW2...simply because it looks like it's going towards every other MMO out there...which I find to be less fun.
How can you say GW 2 is gonna be like all other mmos?

It is a free MMORPG with the best storyline and PvP, and requires more skill and thinking then any other MMO.
I say it as "Its a free sweet MMORPG. Whats wrong with that?"
And we really don't know what it will be like.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadgun
just started a new tyrian char, old memories here i come
I started a Tyrian Mesmah : D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder79
Right now I'm leaning towards not buying GW2...simply because it looks like it's going towards every other MMO out there...which I find to be less fun.
They may take the WoW formula, which is "take everything that's good and make it 100x more awesome."

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
They may take the WoW formula, which is "take everything that's good and make it 100x more awesome."
I played WoW for a total of 1 month (over 3 different periods), before I got so bored I couldn't stand to log back in.

And yes, GW2 does sound like I'll get bored of it 100x faster.

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

You should read official site sometimes, before coming with such statements as " They may take the WoW formula".

http://www.guildwars.com/events/trad...7/gcspeech.php

Remember that some of those guys working at Arena.net made Diablo, WoW and GW a success. None of these 3 games are like the other, so they will not take the WoW formula.

As for GW1, I think I saw mentioned, that there will come more content with patches.
And they are working on fixing bugs.
GW1 will be up running, supported and maintained even when GW2 is released.
Programing, applying fixes, test if it works and if their are no other bugs added with the fix, takes some time. Its not like they only got 10 code lines to edit.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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unfortunatly without any word of a new release of a GW1 game in the next 1.5 years i felt that all my word on GW1 will end up just being hat a mini or a sword?, as i really dont want this to be a letdown, like HoM was.

trying WoW again, lv. 51 mage:P, GW was the dominant game for me for the last 12 months, so its a wee break i guess.

hope anet gets this sorted fast, go GW
also in GW2 i really hopw they keep the missions as that imo makes it a unique MMO, WoW instances take aroudn 2 hours, and need humans-.-

guildwars allows you to play any time and get things done when you want, not when a team is ready.

Mineria

Mineria

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Denmark

Dragonslayers Of The [Mist]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
unfortunatly without any word of a new release of a GW1 game in the next 1.5 years i felt that all my word on GW1 will end up just being hat a mini or a sword?, as i really dont want this to be a letdown, like HoM was.
You didn't notice that HoM has been changed?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
trying WoW again, lv. 51 mage:P, GW was the dominant game for me for the last 12 months, so its a wee break i guess.
LvL 70 Epic geared hunter, TBC's green's and blue's, let us down who worked hard for the epic gear. GW didn't


Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
hope anet gets this sorted fast, go GW
also in GW2 i really hopw they keep the missions as that imo makes it a unique MMO, WoW instances take aroudn 2 hours, and need humans-.-
Read the link in my post above.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
guildwars allows you to play any time and get things done when you want, not when a team is ready.
That is why we love it

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Talach_Ninneed
guildwars allows you to play any time and get things done when you want, not when a team is ready.
Quoted for truth.

Personally, I really hope this "feature" would be maintained in Guild Wars 2.

T1Cybernetic

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Yes I did.

I really cannot see what else they can add to GW1 tbh
I was hoping it would be around for a while too.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic
I was hoping it would be around for a while too.
I was joking :P

Seriously though I cannot see how it can last forever. Im reasonably bored of it atm.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

After GW2 rolls around, I sure as hell would like to see some open servers for GW pop up. Granted, most of them will be shit, but there are always a few that get it right. UO actually becomes a decent game on the right freeshard. Imagine what a good open GW server would be like.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

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I just have the feeling that they announced GW2 way too early. They should have had it well underway with beta maybe 6 months away or so before they announced it. To do that they would have had to have a team working on it for some time while they released a couple more chapters for GW. Would have kept more momentum and not left a dry spell in between. The way it is now GW is left hanging as is for 1-2 years+. Not necessarily a bad thing, its just I dont expect very many major content additions between now and GW2 release outside of GWEN HM and the bonus pack.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Seriously though I cannot see how it can last forever. Im reasonably bored of it atm.
Same here.

Heya Herb.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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GW has hit the wall content wise.

The rewards for doing the easy dungeons/quest/missions make them not worth doing and the more complex ones require doing them the exact same way each time,and that gets boring very fast.

The bonus pack will keep people playing for a while, but the vast majority of players that have been in PvE from the start are going to leave for other games simply because there is no reason to continue playing.

While I love GW:EN, it really does not add much end game content.

Just a guess here but I believe Anet knew this, and planned the late release of hard mode to drag it out a bit, then comes the bonus pack and eventually we'll get maybe one more update with new skills or skill changes. After that Anet will be done with GW and working full time on GW2.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

GW will be around for a long time to come. StarCraft and Diablo are still online. WCIII, The Frozen Throne is still alive and well. WoW did not replace it.

I think if you're asking if there will be a huge population of players forever, the answer is no.

Whirlwind

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmc1990
How can you say GW 2 is gonna be like all other mmos?

It is a free MMORPG with the best storyline and PvP, and requires more skill and thinking then any other MMO.
I say it as "Its a free sweet MMORPG. Whats wrong with that?"
And we really don't know what it will be like.
It doesnt require more thinking and skill then any other MMO =p

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

It all depends whether or not people take to the idea of GW 2, and its initial sales. I mean for all I know it could turn out to be how Everquest 2 turned out to be. So it’s really a flip of a coin but I expect a large part of the community to stay with GW 1 overall. So far the plot elements for GW 2, is going to be extremely dark and foreboding then GW 1.

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

nope,still cant care about gw2... anet wont get anymore money from me.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Lets see if it is around long enough to be there to try neural interface controll of char + 7 heroes.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilebill
StarCraft and Diablo are still online. WCIII, The Frozen Throne is still alive and well. WoW did not replace it.
That's partly because MMO != RTS / Action RPG. Bit hard to replace a game with another game from an (in the case of Diablo / Diablo II, "almost" fits in this slot) entirely different genre.

GW2 is going to be the same type of game as GW, just built differently. It's very possible that GW will "die" when GW2 starts rolling strong. However, that's still quite a ways away, so it really isn't something to worry about at this point.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

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More speculation!

When GW2 comes out, much of the player base will move to GW2 and from all appearances GW1 will have died, but as the shininess of GW2 wears off, you'll see people start trickling back to GW1.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I was joking :P
HA! I knew it!

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Arenanet likes their Bi annual money flow business model... And I really do think that once GW2 is out we will see another expansion with GW1...

GW2 will build off lore from Prophecies GW:EN... (Rising of Orr Dragon Epic)

GW1 Exp 2 will build lore more out for GW2 Expansion (Restoration, Utopia concepts) {you don't think they are just going to throw away all that early concept work on Utopia?} Think of Cantha Expansion (GW:EN style) and possibly New world Discovery alla Americas (Utiopia)...

Then the GW2 expansion hits that builds the story further off the back of the GW1 expansion in the future...

Basically by doing this they ensure both games continue for a long time to come, and continue to have the bi annual income they have build their business around.

Expect GW1 expansions to Probably be online only (cheaper and smaller)... similar to the Upcoming bonus missions in procurement, and maybe the size of Sorrows with Tombs each time...

Expansion 2 could be several things...
  • Cantha Isolationist and Luxon Kurzick Canthan Unification... (expansion of city to the south west)
  • The new island up north of magamun jungle.
  • Pallo Jako rise to power in Elona. (a few new areas in west of Desolation)
  • The Corsair Pirates and Utopia (was to be Campaign 4 once upon a time)

So there is a lot of potential for expansion in both games... As to what it may be that is to come. but the HUGE success of Guild Wars can NOT be denied... It had its roots in PvP and evolved into a contender for top title in PvE as well... Now its evolving again to mix the two in a new and unique way with GW2...

Its not over yet....

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

All GW 2 will do to GW 1 is Make it even harder to Get a team of real people togeather Because Everyone will be playing GW 1 other that that Its all Good.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

GW1 is a cash cow that will/must be milked to fund the development of GW2.

No company can go for a year and a half without launching any products. I'm sure A-Net have a strong business case around GW2 and good investors but it's far too easy for them to make quick cash out of GW1, and they will.

I'd expect several new mission packs that re-use existing maps, areas and content, with very little in the way of new skills, armors, changes to game mechanics etc. Whether this will get people excited is questionable, but we'll still buy them. They'll focus on things that are light on development, and probably focus heavily on using the web channel (their online store) to sell.

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
Arenanet likes their Bi annual money flow business model... And I really do think that once GW2 is out we will see another expansion with GW1...

GW2 will build off lore from Prophecies GW:EN... (Rising of Orr Dragon Epic)

GW1 Exp 2 will build lore more out for GW2 Expansion (Restoration, Utopia concepts) {you don't think they are just going to throw away all that early concept work on Utopia?} Think of Cantha Expansion (GW:EN style) and possibly New world Discovery alla Americas (Utiopia)...

Then the GW2 expansion hits that builds the story further off the back of the GW1 expansion in the future...

Basically by doing this they ensure both games continue for a long time to come, and continue to have the bi annual income they have build their business around.

Expect GW1 expansions to Probably be online only (cheaper and smaller)... similar to the Upcoming bonus missions in procurement, and maybe the size of Sorrows with Tombs each time...

Expansion 2 could be several things...
  • Cantha Isolationist and Luxon Kurzick Canthan Unification... (expansion of city to the south west)
  • The new island up north of magamun jungle.
  • Pallo Jako rise to power in Elona. (a few new areas in west of Desolation)
  • The Corsair Pirates and Utopia (was to be Campaign 4 once upon a time)

So there is a lot of potential for expansion in both games... As to what it may be that is to come. but the HUGE success of Guild Wars can NOT be denied... It had its roots in PvP and evolved into a contender for top title in PvE as well... Now its evolving again to mix the two in a new and unique way with GW2...

Its not over yet....
We might get one expansion before GW2 but that not really mean that they after that do third expansion. There is no real point to do content for GW1 after GW2 is released.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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To be honest... I have no idea how well gw1 will survive once gw2 launches...
I think we won't know until after a few month of gw2 being live (and how many play both or pick up gw1 for gw2 unlocks, our how many go back go gw1 + new sales of gw1)


The PC Gamer - Ultimate GuildWars Guide and the GW2 story info (what happens after GW1 - Start of gw2) re-affirms anet's creativity and love what they've done.

Other statements from interview's and dev posts about GW2
  • Map Warp
  • Mixture instanced / persistence
  • Keeping a "limited" skill set (may not be 8, but still same concept)
  • PvE/Pve-PvP and a separate balanced/structured pvp
  • No monster "camping"
  • No monthly fee

The above shows me they taking the good elements from GW1 while trying to take what the learned to make GW2 and not blindly "copy" other mmorph's out there.

Just looking at the race selection Asura, Human, Norn (Variant Human), Charr, Sylvan (Plant based humonid) shows they don't fall in the standard human, elf, dwarf, etc trap.

So far, everything I've seen is enough for me to buy the base game when it comes out.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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I expect GW2 will offer them new means of deriving income other than just the sale of the game itself.

I would be unsurprised to find Anet selling gold/items/consumable/min-pets and the like to players in there online store for GW2. While this could be applied to GW1 it makes more sense to focus on GW2 for them, though I would have to admit it would be nice to see them selling more bonus missions or Special Repeatable Quests for some small yet reasonable fee to keep GW1 alive.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

Noone can really tell what is going to happen but as stated as long as a good amout of people play GW1 then it will continue to be supported. In my opinion though I do not think this will be the case for Anet is a young company. They do not have as many followers as lets say compared to Blizzard or SOE so creating GW2 I think will eventually spell the demise of GW1 because most of the community will be playing GW2. So no, I don't see GW1 lasting as long as Starcraft or Diablo for that matter.