"LF derv!" ?

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Narfolik
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Yesterday i was omw to do Selpuchre of Dragimmar with a friend and while w8ing in Sif i noticed a message "GLF Derv", that was the first time ever that i saw any1 asking for a derv. I asked what do u need derv for, he said to kill the boss, then i asked why derv, but didnt get an answer. Later on after we killed the boss i still didnt understand why did he want a derv.

Since in my experience all i ever see is LF OF, MM, SS, SV, SF, SH, monk, im asking u "Were are dervishes welcomed/wanted?"

thx in advance.
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~ Dan ~
Forge Runner
#2
O_O

*stops to catch breath*

.. say that again.
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Pick Me
Forge Runner
#3
I've seen the following:

GLFM
GLF Nuker
GLF Tank
GLF SS
GLF MM
GLF Monk
GLF Healer
GLF Interupt Ranger
GLF Mesmer
GLF Assassin
GLF Dervish
GLF Monk or Rit
GLF SV
GLF SF


I think the only profession I have not seen is Paragon.

Some people like seeing Avatar Dervishes or Dervishes with Scythe Elite.
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Abraxas Fafnir
Pre-Searing Cadet
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Narfolik
"Were are dervishes welcomed/wanted?"

thx in advance. The main role of the Dervish is to fill holes in the front line. If the team is lacking a tank, the Dervish can play a tank with their brilliant enchantments. If the team is lacking spike or DPS, the Dervish can fill that role with the high damage scythe and brilliant IAS. If the team is lacking AoE damage the Dervish can fill that role too.

However, Dervishs require a lot of micro managing ie. enchantment juggling and energy management, which is why you get a lot of players who are new to the class not really using a Dervish to its full capabilities. Which is why you get teams not really looking for Dervishs because they think that another proffesion can do the job better, when IMO, I think Dervishs can beat a warrior or sin in the frontline jobs anyday, IF PLAYED CORRECTLY (O.K. a bit of an exaggeration because a Dervish can't kill a target as quickly as a sin).

I wouldn't be able to tell you why that person was looking for a Dervish specifcally for that boss but it might be because Dervishs can deal damage through AoE spells up close so being blind wouldn't have an effect on the damage dealt.
Jaide
Jaide
Academy Page
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Pick Me
I think the only profession I have not seen is Paragon. I think that's a real shame, because I will scarcely travel without one. Granted, my friend has one and we usually duo, so it's not really an issue, but... I guess the problem is that so few people seem to know how to play a Paragon correctly, so people assume Paragons are useless. >.< My friend plays a great one, however, and I never leave home without one. :P

/off topicness >.>;
Sir Pandra Pierva
Sir Pandra Pierva
Forge Runner
#6
Dervish when blinded will still miss.

The reason you never see paragon is because no one can play paragons right. Except in a few extreame cases. Though mostly I don't like that class.
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Abraxas Fafnir
Pre-Searing Cadet
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Dervish when blinded will still miss. Not their AoE enchantments, like dust cloak and staggering force. Maybe the guy wanted a mystic sandstorm build.

Also on Paragons, I hardly travel anywhere without my general morgahn and the shouts he produces, but whenever I try to play a Paragon it never works out.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Pick Me
I've seen the following:


GLF Mesmer
GLF Assassin

Screen or it didn't happen ;p
bungusmaximus
bungusmaximus
Forge Runner
#9
Hmm one of the very good thing about GW:EN is that you have no trouble getting whatever kind of class through. It's no DOA where only one build works. I've played it succesfully with muh different characters.
BlackSephir
BlackSephir
Forge Runner
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Hmm one of the very good thing about GW:EN is that you have no trouble getting whatever kind of class through. It's no DOA where only one build works. I've played it succesfully with muh different characters. I did 1 quest with PUGs and so it happens there was an E "we don't need A, take someone else"
It doesn't matter if it's DoA or not, stupidity is everywhere
bungusmaximus
bungusmaximus
Forge Runner
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackSephir
I did 1 quest with PUGs and so it happens there was an E "we don't need A, take someone else"
It doesn't matter if it's DoA or not, stupidity is everywhere True, but DOA is truly awfully rigid, and the people in the pug you were in just didn't know what they were talking about. Assassin hate in Pve is FTL anyways, it made kinda sense when factions just got released (afflicted soul explosions), but since feigned neutrality there isn't much that can go wrong anymore with sins in PvE.

Which reminds me of PUGing gates of madnesss yesterday (the one with Shiro in it), some stupid tool wanted to kick the SS necro because 'they needed a nuker' LMAO.
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Pick Me
Forge Runner
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Screen or it didn't happen ;p Sadly, I never thought about getting screen shots of these 2 instances.

I was in THK mission when our group leader did an all chat "GLF Mesmer". I laughed in our team chat and said, "I've never seen GLF Mesmer before". The rest of the team laughed too. There were a few warriors and mesmers in the area (I was a monk in the group - 1 of 2 and we had enough warriors).

As for the Assassin, we were in either Abaddon's Mouth or Ring of Fire mission when the team leader asked for an assassin. Strong dp in those areas, as long as you had some good protectors/healers. I think I was a Mesmer back then.

There were two parties on Fire Island that I've been on what wanted Assassins. One time, I was the assassin, they never specifically asked for an assassin then, just, GLFM. When I joined, people were elated that I joined. I think I only died once in Hells Precipice.

So it does happen, just very rarely.
Dr Strangelove
Dr Strangelove
Furnace Stoker
#13
*Shrug* My hero hench death squad almost always includes a derv, so I'm more than happy to take one in a PuG. Amazingly enough, most warriors are really bad frontliners, taking a bunch of worthless tanking crap and weak attack skills like power attack.

Dervs can almost always be counted on to at least do some damage up front. Melandru dervs are downright godly in condition spam areas or in areas with lots of burning. However, they're useless if they're one of those stupid Balthazar dervs with a bunch of earth prayers.
Raccoon
Raccoon
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
I always make sure there is a Mesmer in my team (If i'm not playing mine).

Especially when I know that we are going to kill a boss. When it comes down to it, no prof is better at 1v1 extremely tough boss monsters then a Mesmer. During the gate of pain mission, when the rest of my team was dead on the floor, I took down Shiro single handedly with my Mes (shiro been on 70% health at the time).
Retribution X
Retribution X
Desert Nomad
#15
I always have an assassin when I play mine.

I never use a dervish. More frontliners = bad IMO. full caster team FTW!
Coloneh
Coloneh
Furnace Stoker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
weak attack skills like power attack. get with the times. Power attack kicks ass
visitor
visitor
Frost Gate Guardian
#17
Funny thing that they asked one for that dungeon since i have tried it with a dervish(me) and a hero/hench team. Well they used corrupt enchantment. Had enough?
Chocobo1
Chocobo1
Desert Nomad
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
However, they're useless if they're one of those stupid Balthazar dervs with a bunch of earth prayers. Balthazar form isn't that bad, why the hate?
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Chocobo1
Balthazar form isn't that bad, why the hate? Because it's bad.
It honestly does... very little, apart from show the rest of your team you're an idiot.
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Narfolik
Ascalonian Squire
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Because it's bad.
It honestly does... very little, apart from show the rest of your team you're an idiot. maybe, but when u want to mock a wammo doing his dance....

avatar_of_grenth_just_for_the_dance_ftw!