Run your own server!

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

I whas thinking (yes i can think ^^)
Would Anet give us a copy off our account data iff GW(1) is no more.
And allow us to run our own sever.
Couse i would be nice iff they did when the time is there.
Or anyways sell us the privlage to run our own stuff, couse i enjoy the game so much it would be ashame to let my account go to waste.
What do you guys think.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

the problem is that the 'if' in your post could spawn a discussion totally irrelevant to your original post, so it would seriously be better not to consider this idea until Anet have said "we may be thinking of closing our servers to GW1." which they have said will not be happening. It may be a good idea 'if' that time comes, but not now.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Run my own server and tweak it allow 7 heroes?

If I were able to do that now, wouldnt everyone flock to my server? XD

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
the problem is that the 'if' in your post could spawn a discussion totally irrelevant to your original post, so it would seriously be better not to consider this idea until Anet have said "we may be thinking of closing our servers to GW1." which they have said will not be happening. It may be a good idea 'if' that time comes, but not now.
How much trust do you give those guys @ Anet.
Everything is possible.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Run my own server and tweak it allow 7 heroes?

If I were able to do that now, wouldnt everyone flock to my server? XD
like i sad they sell you the privlage.
That means that you may use there sever rights how they are made not how you seem fit to use them

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
like i sad they sell you the privlage.
That means that you may use there sever rights how they are made not how you seem fit to use them
But if I had the server rights, I could tweak the content right? Remove loot scaling +allow full hero parties?

Ghryphon

Ghryphon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Iowa, United States

LOD

Mo/

Why are you people thinking that GW is going to shut down????

And having server rights is just plain retarded, sorry to burst your bubble....worst thought ive ever heard frankly....

GW isnt a single player game, much less having access to change things in an online enviroment

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Why do people who want to play single player games play GW?

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghryphon
Why are you people thinking that GW is going to shut down????

And having server rights is just plain retarded, sorry to burst your bubble....worst thought ive ever heard frankly....

GW isnt a single player game, much less having access to change things in an online enviroment
GW might not shut down, but two years from now no one will be playing it.

I would rather play GW as a single player with 7 heroes yes. But unfortunately I cant. Updates can become patches XD

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
Why do people who want to play single player games play GW?
lol. If everyone that plays GW solo didnt buy the game, it wouldnt be around anymore XD. Anet would have become bankrupt a long time ago.

Ghryphon

Ghryphon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Iowa, United States

LOD

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
GW might not shut down, but two years from now no one will be playing it.

I would rather play GW as a single player with 7 heroes yes. But unfortunately I cant. Updates can become patches XD
Hint Hint...

GW2

Itll also be free lol

-Tiki

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghryphon
Hint Hint...

GW2

Itll also be free lol

-Tiki
You dont say, thats kind of why no one will be playing GW1?

Cant you think for yourself? Im not as stupid as you appear to be.

agrios

agrios

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

South America

Naked Stalkers of America[Nude]

W/

I absolutely vote for that. But not now.

Wait untill GW1 gets low on people, or they close the servers.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
But if I had the server rights, I could tweak the content right? Remove loot scaling +allow full hero parties?
yes you are right about that but the privlage means that you may tweak within the lines that the publiser allows you to tweak.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

What makes you think people dont do this already?

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

my server is gonna pwn all your servers, and it's gonna be pay to play, lol

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
my server is gonna pwn all your servers, and it's gonna be pay to play, lol
XD

Make a pay to play GW server with no loot scaling, 7 heroes, and heroes allowed in HA and I'll join

Oh, and un-nerf the armor stacking, and stoneflesh aura and Ether renewal durations for me XD. I will pay you the going monthly rate for MMO's.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
What makes you think people dont do this already?
Supposedly Anet has some pretty good security guarding their code. Though maybe by now someone has figured out how to get around it and decypher their code (if it needs it). I know WoW has some "rogue" servers that aren't blizzard supported but I haven't actually heard of a GW one yet.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
Supposedly Anet has some pretty good security guarding their code. Though maybe by now someone has figured out how to get around it and decypher their code (if it needs it). I know WoW has some "rogue" servers that aren't blizzard supported but I haven't actually heard of a GW one yet.
yes there is some. and now you've heard it they've been out awhile now.

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

I think its safe to say most MMOs have a community that runs private servers... usually highly against the EULA and possibly illegal as well. If GW shut down, I think its extremely unlikely Anet would "allow" people to run their own servers for it, but I am quite confident people would anyway.

thezed

thezed

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Iowa, USA

HoTR

Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
I think its safe to say most MMOs have a community that runs private servers... usually highly against the EULA and possibly illegal as well. If GW shut down, I think its extremely unlikely Anet would "allow" people to run their own servers for it, but I am quite confident people would anyway.
QFT. Privet servers will never be ALLOWED, but it may already have been done by someone.

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
GW might not shut down, but two years from now no one will be playing it.
Diablo 2? It's been... many many years from now and the servers are still running.

Mr_Cynical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Region of Chosen Kings [R.O.C.K]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghryphon
Why are you people thinking that GW is going to shut down????
Because ArenaNet have broken promises right, left and centre whenever they stood to make a quick buck out of it.

Promise: We'll release new Guild Wars campaigns with pricing and content levels equivalent to a triple-A title
Reality: Guild Wars 2 will follow a 'game + expansions' format, with the expansions offering similar levels of content to GW:EN but sold at full-price. Same price, less content.

Promise: We will improve the trading system (made during beta)
Reality: Er... well the fact that there is still such a place as Guru Auction should answer that for you

Promise: The game will be grind free
Reality: Any time anyone finds a way of making enough money to pay the fixed-price NPC gold sinks without grinding, it gets nerfed.

So to be honest Anet's promise that 'Guild Wars 1 will not close down' is about as reliable to me as if Gaile Gray personally promised to fly me to Mars tomorrow morning in a spaceship made from alligator teeth.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
Diablo 2? It's been... many many years from now and the servers are still running.
That's because Blizzard is making a fortune from WoW so the cost of running a few D2 servers doesn't mean much to them. Even with high sales of Guild Wars, Anet can't afford adequate server provision at the moment (tried to get into AB recently?).

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
What makes you think people dont do this already?
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

And I'm assuming emulated servers properly and correctly emulate all 1000 skills, all items, the complete mob AI, all the quests, collision detection, body blocking, ....

Nah, GW can't be emulated (at a playable level) because it's too much sheer work.

But logging in, running around, having mobs running around, sure. But that's not why people who play GW play it.

WoW is really trivial to implement. Mobs have no AI, quests are generic, there's no other real logic. Even with that, there's not a single quality server out there.

There's references to GW servers passed around, but there's nothing real behind it. Of course, different people, different expectations. If all you want is a world you run around in, that's great. But that doesn't mean it's a playable game.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

I vote for private servers so I can deal 999 damage to everything and have 500 armor and solo DoA HM. kthx.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

I love how often these topics spawn.

Really. Where can I get some of that timer hax? I always have to wait until the end of the round before I get another chance for a BOOM! HEADSHOT!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
...WoW is really trivial to implement. Mobs have no AI...
What Warcraft were you playing?

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antheus
And I'm assuming emulated servers properly and correctly emulate all 1000 skills, all items, the complete mob AI, all the quests, collision detection, body blocking, ....

Nah, GW can't be emulated (at a playable level) because it's too much sheer work.
You have no idea how private servers work do you?

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
You have no idea how private servers work do you?
1000% xp, 600-900 q1 crystaline, no level cap, 64 flamingo pets, ecto drop from every mob, ....

Like I said - what would a free server accomplish for those who play GW for what GW is?

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Let me rephrase.

You have no idea how running private servers work do you?

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
Let me rephrase.

You have no idea how running private servers work do you?
Ofcourse he dont. Otherwise he'd realize theres been GW private servers for awhile now.

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

GW is going to have as long a life as StarCraft, if not longer.

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

Id love to have a single player version.

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
Ofcourse he dont. Otherwise he'd realize theres been GW private servers for awhile now.
...when you click the GW icon on your desktop, that is the CLIENT FYI.

Agyar

Agyar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT

[Dong]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinitys Creature
...when you click the GW icon on your desktop, that is the CLIENT FYI.
Wow, you're stupid. Do you really think people are going to be saying things like "there have been private/emulated GW servers for a long time" because they mistake their locally installed GW client to be a server?

Gwmaster

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada/Quebec

N/

lol, gw privates already exist, and im not lying since ive been following the progress of some. And yes i would like to run one, if i could...there would be almost no difference anyways, the social part in this game is dead.

Tiyuri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

There is one, it's called GWLP. It's the only one that's got anywhere useful, and it's very very early, in that only movement, chat, etc are working right now. All code for skills etc etc etc is server side, and will need to be redone, it's a huge project.

As for the people saying "there has been one for a while now" just because they've heard of the project, these people are stupid. Sure the project has been around a while now but we've only been alpha testing it a couple of days, and it's nowhere near a playable game.

Everyone here pretending to "know something" everyone else doesn't know is exaggerating the truth.

I can tell you I know for a fact certain Anet staff don't believe it can be done because of the sheer amount of coding required, however "impossible" it is not, it's a case of perseverance and team work, but you won't be playing Guild Wars out of Anets control any time soon.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageMaster
Id love to have a single player version.
gw is already single player, lol L2P

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agyar
Wow, you're stupid. Do you really think people are going to be saying things like "there have been private/emulated GW servers for a long time" because they mistake their locally installed GW client to be a server?
Joke <------joke flying over your head
-----

:P <------your head

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiyuri
There is one, it's called GWLP. It's the only one that's got anywhere useful, and it's very very early, in that only movement, chat, etc are working right now. All code for skills etc etc etc is server side, and will need to be redone, it's a huge project.

As for the people saying "there has been one for a while now" just because they've heard of the project, these people are stupid. Sure the project has been around a while now but we've only been alpha testing it a couple of days, and it's nowhere near a playable game.

Everyone here pretending to "know something" everyone else doesn't know is exaggerating the truth.

I can tell you I know for a fact certain Anet staff don't believe it can be done because of the sheer amount of coding required, however "impossible" it is not, it's a case of perseverance and team work, but you won't be playing Guild Wars out of Anets control any time soon.
Tiyuri, I happen to know more about it than you think I do. Yes GWLP was out as you said its been out awhile now. Theres been 2 times it was out the first time it got shut down by Anerf, You know the dinner invite they had.

But I hate to break it to you but GWLP isnt the only one out there, and they do have a FULL SERVER RUNNING.