The "Good" leaders of the GW world.

He made up for it by dying again swarmed by a bunch of PuG. Haha. Yeah, if he had died fighting, it would've been a glorious cutscene.

Maybe its to show how treacherous the Stone Summit are, to kill him with traps instead of Mano-A-Norno. Rurik would be getting a screenful of yellow numbers using Hundred Blades on a horde of Charr, at least for a few seconds.

hehe and then remember how very little hesitation that your character has in dealing the final blow to him, he's like end my misery and then you're like BAM and you kill him, not even a second thought.

Palawa Joko for the win. He is, beyond a doubt, my favourite character in Guild Wars. I do hope that when we meet him in GW2 we're able to take his side, because he is just too awesome for us to not be able to.

Btw isn't it Jalis not Jalil.
I always thought he was pretty cool and that he would come up in other games.
after THK i thought he would be safe in a stronghold and the he builds up a dwarven defence

Best leader is definitely Palawa Joko. Although he did seal my Dervish in stone and left him there for 150 years....

I must also admit Usoku is a good leader, he unites his Empire, and he get's rid of any opposition, both human and non-human. Now the only thing he has to worry about are those huge dragons waking up, no biggie *lol get it big-biggie I crack myself up*

PS read "Your character's story" thread to understand what I mean.

Alright, going with the idea of Kormir interveining and helping Elona from Palawa Jokko, think for a second, when gods make the world their battle ground, we all loose. Look what became of the crystal desert for crying out loud. Most gods in any kind of game/story seem to have a firm rule about directly interveining with their creations. Abbadon broke this by making his followers just as powerful as the followers of all 5 gods. So yeah, gods tend not to make the world their battle grounds, as well as not directly intervine.

But this begs the question, would Kormir not of, with her new powers, seen what Palawa would have done, known where all the dragons were, etc.

and tell the players about their hiding places so they can kill them?
GW2 would be over in a day or so...

The Gods are so useless in Tyria nowadays.

They have time for stupidity like Wintersday, but no time to help the world from the million-and-one evils?

I gotta admit, Emperor Usoku sounds like the first practical leader. I mean, we all know he's an asshole for turning Cantha into dictatorship, but, finally, someone who decided to kick the Luxons and Kurzicks' asses and get things in check. Good too considering how Cantha was pretty much chock full of problems when we were there (Am Fah, etc).

As long as we play as human chars in GW2, nothing to complain about with this guy.

My favourite leader in GW is King Adelbern. He is a steadfast man. He is not the type to cower behind his men demanding sacrifices whilst he offers none, he beats his men to the forefront of the battle. Even at old age he still has the determination to fight on.

Jalis Ironhammer is probably number 2.

My opinion:Typical stubborn man, I'd agree with what Rurik thinks of him. I can say he "somewhat" redeemed himself, but only in the aspect of his hate for his son and opening his eyes*second part is a maybe*.

Unlike many people, I do like Rurik, but he would make a better leader then a warrior, thats for sure. Unlike his father, he knew that there are times to fight and times to retreat, and for all he knew, he wasnt going to be brought back as an undead to fight the players.

Suicidal? I would disagree, besides, NPCs can't be perfect and Brechnar sacrificed himself so that the players could end a huge threat to both humans and dwarves, an honorable thing to do I say.

I don't think this was posted before the BMP came out, but they did START as good guys, but became corrupted by the mursaat and their will to protect their land. In terms as leaders, ignoring being good or bad, I must say that they were decent to say the least, besides if they didn't kill of choosen or go to the shiverpeaks, the mursaat woulda killed them.

Vizier Hkilbron played them for fools, how were they suppose to know he was evil, the players didn't untill the very end as well. For rebel leaders, its hard to be a "good" leader.

Again, the king didnt know Khilbron was evil. Also, the reason why he tried fooling the players so much was because of the flameseeker prophecies, which he did not know the end to *so it seems*.

Those two were not ment to be set as leaders, just as guides, and we don't know if glint helps out in GW2 or not, for all we know glint could be the Crystal Desert Dragon. Or maybe she acts like the gods and retreats, ignoring everything around her. Or perhapes she does help out the GW2 players.

I think Togo was the perfect canthan hero, i agree with the 10/10 but not the *Yawn* :P.

Who he is descended from and who descends from him has nothing to do on the person your judging. He couldn't keep the city in order because of the plague and the guilds attacking people. He was praised because he was doing everything he could to help people, unlike everyone else in that crummy government.

I agree with that.

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Overall, I think you purposly went on negatives except for Joko. Also, the NF leaders did seem like the crappiest leaders *except for Joko*.

Hmmm... well... if I think about it there really is only one leader in all of Guild Wars who can actually be called a good leader.


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THE PLAYER!

I'ts just way u think who is good leader, in main story comes various leaders but most of them get killed^^ I prefer Rurik (fiery dragonsword FTW) but i also like tyria most so it might be from my start in tyria.

Acually If I recall correctly he "died" being swarmed by us

Didn't Rurik technically desert, and commit treason, both in a time of war?
I remember being very unwilling to follow him as he went AWOL and led civilans and parts of the army (thereby weakening Ascalons defence) in a very poorly planned escape. Would we have considered Patton a great leader if he, in 1942, had defied Roosevelts orders and fled with the western task force to Argentina instead of fighting Rommel?
And, to continue the analogy he fled at the request of Vichy France (White Mantle), and without securing safe passage first.

Also, in a stroke of tactical brilliance he fled with those civilians and parts of the army FROM level 8 charrs THROUGH level 10 dwarves TO level 14 gargoyles. Let's hope the civilians levelled during the trip.

No, I don't think I can sign on him being a great leader.

His finest hour was no doubt in the Nolani mission, where he briefly was both useful and ran in the right direction.

The one ascalonian leader, apart from Adelbern, I have any confidence in is Captain Greywind.

General Morgahn is pretty cool.Hes like Mullen from Grandia.
Also, FYI paragon heroes are GODLY!

I agree. Also Master Armin Saberlin, and possibly Sir Tydus.

All three of them were always busy keeping things in check when we saw them, and gave some pretty nice quests too. I was really hoping we'd see more of them past Ascalon.