What was the toughest part of Guild Wars?

Goldleader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/Me

With the recent addition of the expansion GW:EN to Guild Wars, I've noticed an increase in the number of new players in the game.

Spend 5 minutes in Old Ascalon and you'll be shocked just how basic the questions are.

Thinking back to when you first started playing the game, what do you think was the most confusing part of the game?

For me, I thought the entire elite skill part was very confusing.
1. "So I get only 8 skills, and I'm allowed only 1 elite at a time?
2. How do I get an elite? You need a signet of capture equipped near a dead boss to capture the elite.
3. How do I know if I'm near a boss? The NPC has a name, unlike the generic names most mobs have.
4. How can I find out what elite the dead boss has? Just try using the signet of capture and see if any skills pop-up" Etc...

I dunno, seems simple enough now, but I found the entire concept VERY confusing at the time.

What part of the game was the toughest to grasp for you?

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

for me i thought i had to meet the requirements of the weapon/items inorder to gain the benefits of them...that was hard for me to understand for some reason....

Also the whole running thing in prophecies....totally got me confused...thankfully i never took one...until later

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

My first char was an ele, and I was confused about the "6 fire magic" requirement. I wasn't sure if I needed 6 in that attribute or 6 fire magic skills :O

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

How armor effects damage, even now i only half understand it and accept more=better XD

TwinRaven

TwinRaven

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Capping skills used to be harder....the boss had to be alive AND had to have just used the skill..."NO, NO, DON'T KILL HIM!!!" Ah, the good old days.

I guess the hardest thing for me to grasp in the beginning was why every group sat around and refused to leave without 2 monks...ugh. Oh, yeah...still the same. Bah!

SeraCombi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Hiding in a cave in old Ascalon

I remember for me the biggest mystery was how you could get a guild hall...

there was some mysterious path you had to take, perhaps through the desert or the underworld....you had to make a long journey. Something was whispered about Lion's Arch...something called a "sigil" might be needed...

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

When I first left pre-searing I dreaded the Charr.

jhu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

stacking vs. non-stacking

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

when i didnt know where to get better armor.

or

when i didnt understand requirements

but probably

everything before i found guild wiki

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

When I started I was used to charms in DiabloII. I filled my inventory with +3 energy items and wondered why nothing was different from an empty inventory.

shanaya

shanaya

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Scouts of Tyria

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhu
stacking vs. non-stacking
Yeah, me too. The whole armour + runes business was totally confusing for me and, of course, my first Ele was running around with 3 minor fire runes and 2 minor energy storage runes for ages.

I think I'd got as far as Riverside Province before I realised that you could tell the profession of a boss by its aura.

I'd been playing GW for well over a year before I fully understood all the controls for targetting foes, allies and picking up loot.

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Goldleader: I think you've hit it on the head! When I was just a newb I heard that elite skills were skills that bosses used. So, i thought that only the bosses could use them and if i met a boss with one hed use it and absolutely wipe my entire party out for good.

Hmm... then you meet a boss with balthazars pendulum and realise... they ain't so bad.

Free Wind

Free Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Moscow

W/

What comes to mind first is when I kept on wondering in Hell's Precipice mission "what the hell happens to my mending?" (it kept getting rended by necro titans) - "I swear I’ve just cast it!". I also thought that mending alone was giving me extra 45 health (I didn’t realized I had +45 enchanted shield)

Well, yeah, I was a typical wammo mending noob back in those days ))

Villainy of Galrath was a crusade for me - I believe we spent more then 5 hours when we first did it, hell, miss those days. At least 10 times in Kassex Peak I was told "dammit, don't rush" right before I'd trigger next pop up still thinking to myself "damn, I swear there were no red dots here just now!"

Oh, good old days of innocent noobines, how I miss them!

Arcane_Penguin

Arcane_Penguin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

Land Downunder

The Shadowheart Vanguard

R/Mo

Requirements, for 11 months I thought you needed those requirements just to WIELD the item! (I never tried ;( )

Free Wind

Free Wind

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Moscow

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcane_Penguin
Requirements, for 11 months I thought you needed those requirements just to WIELD the item! (I never tried ;( )
Indeed When I tried equipping req 13 Axe having something like 9 in axe mastery (being low lvl myself) I was stunned: how come I managed to equip it? Woohoo 6-28 damage! let's go KILLLLL STUUFFF!!!

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Identification of white items. I never know it was possible to ID them, so I only identified the blue/purple/gold items with [unidentified]. I must have thrown away a lot of money by selling tons of whites without id-ing them first.

Also confusing: the -50hp cesta. When you get it as newbie it appears to be the ultimate useless item, so I merched it immediately. Later I noticed about all the "WTB -50 hp cesta, 5k" messages and realised I threw away 5k by mercing it.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Hmm, hard one.

I guess the thing I was grossly incorrect about (and therefore confused I guess) was the role a secondary played. Because of the slower progression of hardness of the enemies in Prophecies you can get away with a lot of things that you really shouldn't be able to do. My first two attempts at the game failed because of that - an ele that used some earth spells for armor and monk spells to tank (an ele wammo - even worse!) and a ranger that used mesmer skills for degen. They both worked up until about the Jungle and then just became impossible to play. I viewed the secondary as a true "second profession", not something to support your primary. The third I made I had learned and didn't have that trouble again.

I suppose the one of the few times I truly felt confused was the first time I hit some Mesmer enemies with a energy heavy character. Why didn't that cast? Why do I have no energy? Why did I just die? As a warrior there is almost nothing that really shuts you down in the game that you can't see. Blind and hexes show up, something draining your energy or interrupting you didn't. At that time all we had was the name of the skill that caused the damage floating above your head and no wiki to look stuff up on. I had no idea what class I was fighting and no way to find out until I just stumbled upon one of the skills on another character. Heck, at that time it was even hard to tell who was casting what at you too. Not to mention that it was usually just one of many skills currently hitting you and the name was only displayed for a second or two.

After that the Wiki was born and had enough information that I just looked stuff up if I didn't know what happened and we now have almost *too* much information thrown at us in game.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

The toughest part of Guild Wars for me was getting started. I was one of the extremely masochistic people who started playing the game as a Mesmer instead of going for an easier profession. It took me a coupla weeks to fully work out exactly what skills I needed to use and what new skill effects I had to look out for to improve my builds. Let alone learning about each skill subtype and which of my skills interacted with the skills that the monsters were using.

Although I think that the whole experience has given me a firm understanding of the game that I might not have got if I had started off with a different profession

Explodie

Explodie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Netherlands

LowLandLions [LLL]

R/

Well the first time i played guildwars i had strange problems >.>

I got on my first day in a dutch speaking guild, so that wasnt a problem, but then i talked with them, and they starting to talk "1337"

And i was WTF are you saying ...

And then the stacking/non stacking problems came ...

And the better armor :P I used to walk with my startings armor for weeks :P

(Damn i used to be a newb ... )

DBHibs

DBHibs

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

W/Mo

Hmmmm....pretty much everything confused me when I first started until I read this site and various articles at GuildWiki. Only been playing for a few months now and still consider myself a bit of a noob but I've certainly learnt a lot over that time.

Single toughest thing for me initially was getting killed repeatedly on the early quests as I tackled them all completely on my own as I stupidly thought that it cost money to hire henchmen to help me

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

lol, the whole runes thing confused me. Stacking/Non-Stacking, the superior has to go on the head piece? Why? Mine is on the chest. Took me 6 months to get that all straightened out.

Also, since I understand runes well, I also didn't understand why my Assassin (my first and only char) couldn't use a bow just as well as daggers. She was half ranger and I preferred using the bow over daggers. She didn't die as much. A guildie pointed out that my Assassin could never be as good with a bow as a ranger due to runes.

Here's one that still confuses me. My 55 Necro dies and instantly goes to 1 HP. Huh?? 15% of 55 = 8.25. Sooo, shouldn't my 55 Necro have 37 hp after dying just once?

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by shanaya
I think I'd got as far as Riverside Province before I realised that you could tell the profession of a boss by its aura.
I had to get a better vid card to see that and then I was amazed. I thought it was something new. I'm glad I was with friends when I first saw it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shanaya
I'd been playing GW for well over a year before I fully understood all the controls for targetting foes, allies and picking up loot.
Me too and I still learn new stuff.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
My first char was an ele, and I was confused about the "6 fire magic" requirement. I wasn't sure if I needed 6 in that attribute or 6 fire magic skills :O
Lol that's almost cute :P

Gee it's been more than two years. I'd say runes and them stacking would be the toughest part of GW to comprehend for me.

hehe

Spellforge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless

N/

I created my first character as a warrior/elementalist and couldn't work out why I never had any energy and could only get one "spell" off in a fight and have to wait for my energy to recharge such a long time - didn't feel very uber to me (I wanted armour and throw fireballs about) - I had to wait until i got through the desert to get that changed.

Also the trash icon - yes it was always there but somehow I just couldn't see it

take_me

take_me

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Country Roads [HOME]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwinRaven
Capping skills used to be harder....the boss had to be alive AND had to have just used the skill..."NO, NO, DON'T KILL HIM!!!" Ah, the good old days.

I guess the hardest thing for me to grasp in the beginning was why every group sat around and refused to leave without 2 monks...ugh. Oh, yeah...still the same. Bah!
Lol, right... I remember that from the betas when I tried to cap Vigorous Spirit outside Yak's Bend, good old days

lordpwn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
Here's one that still confuses me. My 55 Necro dies and instantly goes to 1 HP. Huh?? 15% of 55 = 8.25. Sooo, shouldn't my 55 Necro have 37 hp after dying just once?
The death penalty is calculated from your base maximum health, not the maximum health modified by your gear. Level 20 characters have a base maximum health of 480, and 15% of that is 72. Since 55-72 would be negative your health gets capped at 1 instead.

Gileads

Gileads

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Jersey

Raiders of Gilead

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
When I first left pre-searing I dreaded the Charr.
The Charr were scary at first and seeing level 20 toons in ascalon.I think not knowing I could bring hench with me on quests after pre-searing and getting killed alot because I never read the manual, also was confused about the rune thing,yes I miss those old days in GW

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

Rt/

I started out with Factions and the tablets spread arround the Shing Jea Monestery were very useful, they thought me most of the things concerning basic mechanics (especially what is adrenaline since my first char was a warr), so the biggest problem was how to get better armor, and why do i gain more health when i level up but not energy.
And one more thing that i havent figured out for a very long time (and still not sure about it now), when you press ctrl all the players names show up, some names are light blue, some are dark blue... This frustrated me so much because i would get no answer whenever i asked someone.
(now i think it shows luxon/kurzick allegiance, does it?)

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

Like many others it was the stacking or rather non stacking of runes. I remember runing up my mesmer with five +30hp runes and thinking maybe they only work outside. Duh! Then trying to salvage them back until I lost a piece of my armour, that hurt.

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

Quote:
Originally Posted by enxa
And one more thing that i havent figured out for a very long time (and still not sure about it now), when you press ctrl all the players names show up, some names are light blue, some are dark blue... This frustrated me so much because i would get no answer whenever i asked someone.
(now i think it shows luxon/kurzick allegiance, does it?)
Darker blue shows they are in a party even if it`s only heros or hench.

T RAND

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

The Axe Gang

E/

My first character. I completed Iron Mines Of Moladune. Halfway through Abbadon's Mouth my DP is 60. The other party members were telling me that I had to be infused. I told them that I had done the infusion mission. I finally realized that something wasn't right.
Originally I thought that when the guy carrying the Eidolon thing gave it to the weird floating creature that all the party members were instantly infused.
I made it through Ring Of Fire and Abbadon's Mouth without having infused armor. Racked up a lot of deaths though.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

tomes

as a newbie i thought the elite tome can be used many times since the name is ELITE !!! only after using it i realized that all tomes are consumable once only.

and one more thing in the early days of playing GW, i thought the higher the req of a weapon, the more valuable it is...

lol

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

Was a few when I started 2 years ago lol
1st was when I went post for the first time why I kept getting DP when I never got it in Pre.

Stupidest mistake I ever did was getting "run" to Droks as everyone seamed to be doing it so I followed along cause i thought thats how it was
and was only lvl 14 I think and once there getting expensive Armour dyeing it black O.o
adding runes to it and then realizing had the wrong one on one of them
(was still getting used to how runes worked) went to salvage the rune cause it was expensive
and lost the piece. What a waste of money.
so that was a Tough lesson to learn

segnisletum

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

N/

This is one of the best threads I have read in a long time.

Stacking/non-stacking for me. My first char was a warrior and it had a major sword, major tactics, and a superior tactics. I don't know what I was thinking. But I quickly saw that the tactics wasn't adding up, look at the rune and figured thats what non-stacking means. Somehow I translated that into you are only allowed one non-stacking rune total. So I went to change my second char, an ele, to fix it there too before I forgot. Then I noticed that its superior fire, my prize it was so expensive, and my superior energy storage (I really didn't comprehend hp) were both showing. That wasn't max armor, probably whatever was at ascalon city if not starter, but I used it until the ring of fire because I thought that the armor had somehow glitched to give me both.

On top of that, I started playing right before nightfall and insignia. Wasted a lot of money on it before I realized my proph character wasn't allowed to use it. Am glad they fixed that though.

free_fall

free_fall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

For me, it was The Wilds mission in Proph.

My very first char was a ranger and I was rolling along through the game just using hench, until I got to this mission and just hit a brick wall.

Now, I don't remember if I'd already joined my guild or if I joined it just so I could do so, but this was the first mission which I asked my guildies for assistance on.

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

N/

Making my first toon a N/W. Well wouldn't a "Death Night" be cool? Not if you can't get an appropriate elite. I almost re-rolled him. Started 3 more toons and maxed them out before going back to my Necro.

btw, I never ended up playing a "death night". Once I found a build for the SS I started to play him again.