A rumour i heard

i just heard from several people that A-Net plans to fix the Survivor title track so you are able to attain Survivor titles after dying.

i for one am against this, when i first started(4 months ago) i had no idea about titles or how to play and now that character i started with has a few titles and im gonna max all possible, but i am not gonna complain i cant get Legendary Defender Of Ascalon or Legendary Survivor, what im gonna do is Start a new charcter and obtain all titles with that character(except one of the two mentioned above)


so if u do not wanna see cry babies who died before the title was known or what not get the survivor title please sign

I DONT WANNA SEE THE CHANGE TO THE TITLE /signed



P.S considering we may be giving hand out's, im gonna cry and bitch how i cant get LDOA and LS on the 1 character (sarcasm)

i like the fact you cant die, it gives u something to work towards, how these people gonna learn to play if they cant live long enough to get title.

and whats gonna become of Legendary Survivor and Indomitable Survivor (considering u didnt survive that long)

i for 1 am against this Upgrade, if babies got what they wanted all the time, mosy people would still be breast feeding

again /signed (i want survivor left how it originally was)


Rank- Title- Experience gained WITHOUT DYING:
1- Survivor -140,600
2- Indomitable Survivor -587,500
3- Legendary Survivor -1,337,500

As for the rumor, Gaile actually posted in another thread about this that she was being misunderstood during one of her chat sessions, it went something like this:

player X: Are you going to allow SMS online paying options?? (or some other question, however definately not about survivor title)
player Y (quickly after player X): Are you going to fix survivor title?????
Gaile: yes we are (answer to player X, but player Y got in between making it seem she answered that players question).

As to you suvivor petition, as I am a player who has made 6 of his chars before there even was a survivor title I would like to see this changed so I can get survivor on more chars.

This would not have been an issue to me in the past, but now they are adding rewards tied to the KOBD track and my ranger wants to be a survivor now, or have a shot at it, as it was denied to him in the first place.

1. MOST survivor titles and I do mean MOST are short cutted .. hang out in lutgardis sometime to watch the birth of many survivors. Standing there as a door on a fff run hardly means you earned the title.

2. I agree and disagree .. some of us have chars that are 28 almost 29 months old hence we are not making a new one and never had the chance to get title on the char. Starting char over at 4 months is a slightly different thing than the people playing since launch.

Would need to see the details to support or condemn it.

so what ur telling me is u refuse to make a new character to obtain the title? and failed to survive in the first place!

well honestly if u died thats to bad man, i died before i knew what titles were, and my character has almost all titles(PvE) maxed, but im not gonna cry like some 6 year old, what im gonna do is max out the rest of her AVAILABLE titles then start a character for LS.

but all's i read now is "Wah Wah Wah, i cant get my title cus it wasnt invented, Wah Wah Wah" grow up pull your finger out, earn the title and not have it handed to us, why be considered a survivor when u didnt survive to begin with?

i mean thats just more then retardedness


--"but now they are adding rewards tied to the KOBD track and my ranger wants to be a survivor now, or have a shot at it, as it was denied to him in the first place"--

well there other NEW titles to max out, and anyway theres always gonna be 1 title not maxed LDOA or LS...but im not gonna cry

should my warrior deserve another shot, cus im pretty much in the same boat as you,, but think to myself "hmm maybe i desrved to have lost that title" considering i did not Survive from 0exp to 1,337,500exp

so either start a new character or take the loss IMO..if u feel as u dont have time, then u must not have time to get LS.

well you still earned it by NOT dying, and now u have to be in Aggro bubble to recieve EXP...

either way i couldnt careless how long u played the survivor title was fine the way it was

and i know A-Net wont care(they already got there money) but if this happens me and my guildie will quit GW for good

Credibility -> Out the window.


Personally, my monk pve character had over 7,000 deaths before titles were even invented. This game was supposed to have a PvP endgame, afterall. I guess they completely forgot about that when they released Factions.

The only way I'd support the whole "Give me a chance to become a survivor!" cry is if Anet would basically lock your character in this manner:

1a. Talk to an NPC.

1b. Gain the "Aura of the Past" effect. (Name isn't important.)

2. Lose 19 levels.

3a. Your Max Armor is locked and unwearable.

3b. Your weapons are locked and cannot be wielded.

4. Your access to all but the beginning outpost(s) is locked. (For Prophs characters, the beginning outpost would be Ascalon and the level would be more than 1.)

5. As you travel, outposts become open again.

6. If you die or succeed, talk to the NPC again to gain back your levels, unlock your max or prestige or old armor, and every outpost is unlocked again.

Because if the people that want a shot at survivor actually want to try for this title with all their skills, all their weapons, all their armor and access to all the outposts, it would be a terrible insult to those that got survivor since level 1.

I'm not that concerned about locking skills ever since elite tomes came out by the way, so the old character could keep them. Anyway, I know for a fact that my warrior or assassin could easily get survivor in a day farming bosses or HM creatures. So losing your levels and your edge temporarily only seems fair.

Orrrrrrr Arenanet could just stop giving rewards for Survivor. That would be a nice start.

I only ask for a one-shot opportunity for characters made before the title was there. There is a difference between not knowing it is there, or it simply not being there.

For this reason you are not in the same boat with your warrior.

EDIT:
and there is a brand new way to get leg. survivor in 40 hours with no risk involved (bring -5 energy mod to play it extra safe).

Imo it should be excluded from the KOABD track or changed.

I agree, but then they should also remove suvivor from everyone that took a consulate docks run in nightfall.

The only "reward" from survivor is one to two words below a character's name. If that bothers you so much, I really can't help you find a successful solution that would cater to everyone's needs. That's my final thought in this thread.

Not true. The title contributes to the Rainbow Phoenix reward as well as rewards in GW2. The Hall of Monuments is character-based, not account-based.

So, your saying that the people who never had a shot at the title in the first place arent allowed a single shot at the title? Shouldn't the people who created characters before the survivor title was introduced have a chance at earning the title?

i dont want a 'hand out', i want a chance to earn something i was never given the chance to earn, but , if its not changed, theres plenty of other titles, so it dosent make that much difference.

I'm sorry but I disagree with this. Getting 140k xp (1st tier, after which you should have max armor and access to all the skills you want) without dying is not hard, with or withour max armor/skills. It's staying focused until you get to 1,337,000 xp. Most people who fail while going seriously for survivor do this because of a slip of concentration. They do not die before lvl 20 (it's actually a very hard thing to do in most starter situations).

A petition against a rumour?

Even if it was true, NOT signed :-P

You dont need to be in agro bubble to get experience from FFF run...reward comes from quest..

and i dont think people are crying...just voicing there opinions..

players main char..the one they do everything with, that they have had from beggining...and DIDNT get the opportunity..may now get it. what is so wrong with that? i have five survivor char..2 legendary..my main char would love to get that one under his belt..
i dont see the harm in it..
/not signed

they also die from seriously bad lag..when i am playing any char going for survivor if there is any sign of lag..i switch char..

Im game for it as long as Legendary Defenders of Ascalon can't get the title. Many wants to strive for a "perfect" character, for now that includes Survivor OR LDoA. I would see it as unfair for those that have a Legendary Survivor if the ones with LDoA suddenly can get an extra title. That's my 2, oh and only ONE more try on survivor, preferbly on those that died before Legendary was implemented. Although, shouldn't this apply for all those that left pre-searing before titles too?

Who are you to wave you wave your finger? So full of it. You've been playing for 4 months. Your telling people who have spent THOUSANDS of hours over 2 whole years they can't try and get a title on there toons just because YOU didn't know about titles when you started?

What's the difference? A change where you get the title for getting a streak and is reset each time you die is SOOOO BAD because you can't be bothered to re roll a 4 month old toon.

agreed 4 months is nothing..i have several char that have been born more than 2 yrs ago...and when Titles came out correct me if i am wrong came with Factions..my main char if had the opportunity would of gone for Survivor if it existed..simple as that..now if this rumour is true bring it on...looking forward to it..

This forum could use fewer trolls like you. You take a rumor and create a fireball out of it with crap like this.

The issue that I see here is 'I have something and I don't want you to have it, even if it doesn't affect me in any way.'

Alright, I say that a change to survivor is very much needed. Not only because people who came about before titles were implemented didn't have a shot towards it (this is the most important reason), but because with survivor being able to be added to HoM (meaning there is most likely going to be some benefit in GW2 from this title), it sort of makes it especially unfair to those characters created before the titles, as well as those people who prefer to just play the game the first time without looking at the wiki.

To be honest, I can't see the real point to this. It's incredibly easy to get your character to the first and second tiers of the title just from doing quests and missions. After a character has done these, they can't get the rewards again. So basically if they implemented a system where you had to start from scratch every time you died, it would be much harder to get the title without doing hours of farming. Even now players are farming for the title. Why is it such a big deal? Either a player wants to farm for their title, or earn it in a bigger, worthwhile way by actually playing the game. By implementing a system that allows characters to start over when they die, it won't really effect anything at all. It would allow those characters to pursue the title in any way they want, whether that be by playing through the aspects of the game they have yet to experience, or by farming. It doesn't make any difference at all.

Well, that's all I have to say. Just as a side note, it is 1:02am Saturday morning for me. If I have made any mistakes or not taken anything into consideration, it is because I have only just got home from the pub. So please, if I have overlooked anything, please correct me. But I still feel that it won't make any difference whatsoever.

Rumors are trash.

Closed.