Dam. vs. Monstertype mods for Dagger, Scythe, Spear

Yang Whirlwind

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I know they exist for Sword, Axe, Hammer, Bow and Staff.
But i've come to doubt they exist for Dagger, Scythe and Spear.

Have anybody seen them. Wiki claims they exist, but I have never had a weapon with one on it drop or ever seen one for sale here on Guru.

I see people posting WTB's for them all the time,- but have yet to see any of them answered.

Thanks in advance for any answers with proof either way!

Explodie

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I dont know what you mean?

You probably mean: 20% Damage Vs. Monster (20% chance) inscriptions?

I've never seen that one ...

But Wiki says that the exist? Why dont you try out the merchant forums? Or check the auctions?

Yang Whirlwind

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No one?

Come on - someone must know either way!

fujin

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They do exist, although they don't drop that frequently.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Of_Slaying
It does say,
Dagger Handle of <Species> slaying
Spear Grip of <Species>slaying
Scythe Grip of <Species>slaying

HawkofStorms

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True Fujin, but that wiki article might just be speculation (ie, people added it because those mods existed for other weapons, so they must have figured they would for the other professions). Keep in mind wiki is maintained and edited by the community. It's not the final word, the game is.

The more I think about it, the more I think I haven't seen one of those mods for a scythe, spear, or dagger. Anybody got a screenshot/real proof?

Yang Whirlwind

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Quote:
You probably mean: 20% Damage Vs. Monster (20% chance) inscriptions?
Actually i mean a suffix weapon upgrade: (Scythe Grip, Spear Grip or Dagger Handle) of ... Slaying - Damage Vs. Monstertype (20% chance)

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But Wiki says that the exist? Why dont you try out the merchant forums? Or check the auctions?
I have checked the Buy/Sell sections ... a lot. I'm sorta a compulsive trader - haven't been looking for these explicitly until lately, but i just don't remember seeing one for sale - ever!

Quote:
They do exist, although they don't drop that frequently.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Of_Slaying
It does say,
Dagger Handle of <Species> slaying
Spear Grip of <Species>slaying
Scythe Grip of <Species>slaying
Thats why i originately stated that Wiki claim they exist! The Wiki is great,- but not without error!

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The more I think about it, the more I think I haven't seen one of those mods for a scythe, spear, or dagger. Anybody got a screenshot/real proof?
That's what i wanna know too! - Come on people: show it if you have it!

Crom The Pale

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Good question, ive got ones for sword/axe/hammer/bow and staffs.

But I have never seen one for dagger/spear/scythe.

For the most part they are among the rarest of drops as it is, but still you would think somebody would have seen one by this time?

Yang Whirlwind

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Deathbane are so common you can feed pigs with it - I don't even bother taking them off anymore. Some of the others are pretty uncommon though!

I really think i'm on to something here! Wiki is quite possibly dead wrong on this - but I would really like more proof than "some of the other guys said they hadn't seen any either" before changing it. I have no idea how to go about getting that proof - anybody got any ideas?

Yang Whirlwind

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Abybody seen these mods?
- or have a better suggestion of how to get proof either way?

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Well, this doesn't fully answer your request, but almost does, and poses another question:

I am a hardcore Dagger buyer, I am addicted beyond compare, and in 20 months, I am yet to see any species slaying mods for daggers, so in all honesty, if I haven't got 1 from the ~1000 daggers I've had, there's a 99.9% they don't exist. Nor have I EVER seen any offered to be sold, and i hang in trade areas alot.

So here's my question (if indeed these do not exist):

Why the hell not? =oP

Yang Whirlwind

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Good question Razorblade! - its might be a blunder in the programming or some wierd consideration we can't figure.

A few more answers like Razorblade's and i change the Wiki on the subject! - almost sure by now!

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Originally Posted by Yang_Whirlwind
Good question Razorblade! - its might be a blunder in the programming or some wierd consideration we can't figure.

A few more answers like Razorblade's and i change the Wiki on the subject! - almost sure by now!
Yeah, I do believe it needs to be altered. Even if you say "At this stage, there is no known existence of <species> slaying mods for Daggers, Scythes or Spears". That way, if they do exist (extremly unlikely) or are later added (a mild possibility), it can be changed again without saying a definite "No".

Just a though =o)

Yang Whirlwind

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Excellent suggestion - only I'm very new to Wiki and don't feel like messing up right from the start.

Perhaps someone else with a few more posts on Wiki could do it?

Coloneh

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ive seen a few monster slaying scythe mods.

Yang Whirlwind

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Originally Posted by Coloneh
ive seen a few monster slaying scythe mods.
- Have any now? Please post a picture if you do! I would really like so hard facts here!

Spindraft

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Originally Posted by Coloneh
ive seen a few monster slaying scythe mods.
I have as well. In fact just a day or two ago, I believe it was deathbane (vs. undead of course).

I don't still have it though......merchant fodder.

Yang Whirlwind

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Originally Posted by Spindraft
I have as well. In fact just a day or two ago, I believe it was deathbane (vs. undead of course).

I don't still have it though......merchant fodder.
I have spend several hundred hours in the sell forum - and never seen one off these for sale (not to mention never having one drop) - merchant fodder??!!
Hate to have to tell you this, but I think you might have made a bid mistake!

Still looking for the proverbial "smoking gun" people - screenshot please!

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Charr Slaying Weapons

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Jonathan_Blunt

HawkofStorms

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Hmmm but that still doesn't mean those drop.

Yang Whirlwind

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Thanks for the link Zodiak, I had forgotten all about that collector and his Charrslaying weapons,- but as HawkofStorms points out: it's not really the proof i'm looking for.

Anybody have one of these slaying mods for Scythe, Spear or Dagger?
(not interested in seeing Charrslaying obviously as Zodiak pointed out where to get those)
Show me ingame or post screenie here please!

Spindraft

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Originally Posted by Yang_Whirlwind
I have spend several hundred hours in the sell forum - and never seen one off these for sale (not to mention never having one drop) - merchant fodder??!!
Hate to have to tell you this, but I think you might have made a bid mistake!

Still looking for the proverbial "smoking gun" people - screenshot please!
You may be right, but this is probably why you never see them. Because I've never seen someone asking for one, this thread is the first time. Most of the time, a mod that is not known as very desireable, and has very circumstancial benefits will be quickly considered merchant fodder.

So.....people dont bother trying to sell them because there's not a readily noticable demand, hence you never see them....they go straight to the dump. Just a theory.

Especially if it wasn't max of course. (which i don't believe mine was, but i'd have probably still dumped it anyway)

Yang Whirlwind

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I have seen several WTB thread asking for these - that was actually what set me off, because I never saw anybody answering those threads!
Whenever someone posts a WTB for slaying mods for all the other kinds of weapons it usually sets off a frenzy of offers (mostly Deathbane ).

Still looking for that screenie people!

Zodiak

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I think enough people proved that they do exist in very limited quantities, but if you really must have a screenshot Screenie

HawkofStorms

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I don't think they have Zodiak, and thanks for the NOT a screenshot.

Yang Whirlwind

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I agree with HawkofStorms that the issue hasn't been resolved yet - I haven't seen a screenie of the mod in question yet and no one has offered to show me one ingame either!

I'm not even going to comment on Zodiak's attempt at humor!

As to the: "I think, I sold one to the merchant last week" or the "I seem to recall seeing one for sale a while back" - I consider this hearsay and not proof!

As already stated: I'm still looking for real proof that they exist!

Or testimony to the contrary from long time traders!

Yang Whirlwind

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Still looking for proof!

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Originally Posted by N E D M
I declare that they do not exist.
If you say they do post pics or it didnt happen.
Change the wiki.
I'm not ready to declare either way - still hoping for some proof either way!
If you feel like changing the Wiki now,- please do so! I think its premature though!

N E D M

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I declare that they do not exist.
If you say they do post pics or it didnt happen.
Change the wiki.

Yang Whirlwind

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Still looking for some proof!

Yang Whirlwind

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Still looking for some proof! - anyone?

Yang Whirlwind

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This must be a first - no one has anything to add?
(proof or long time experience trading)

Yang Whirlwind

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Gonna bump this one more time!

Quaker

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Those type of mods were never all that popular. Most people just merched them, so maybe they just never bothered to make them for the newer classes. Other than "of Deathbane" I haven't seen any monster specific mods drop for any class for quite a while.

Yang Whirlwind

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I agree they wern't widely popular. But I have seen several WTB posts for them anyway.
The question remains though:
Do the mods "+20% damage against [monster type]" exist for dagger, spear and scythe?
(apart from the +20% against Charr, that can be salvaged from a certain collectors item)

Quaker

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yang_Whirlwind
Do the mods "+20% damage against [monster type]" exist for dagger, spear and scythe?
The lack of positive responses would seem to indicate "no", but maybe only ANet knows for sure.

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(apart from the +20% against Charr, that can be salvaged from a certain collectors item)
Can they be salvaged?

Yang Whirlwind

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Can they be salvaged?
From what I understand the +20% vs. char can be salvaged. Though I admit I haven't tried so myself.

This is the last chance guys - gonna take this up with Wiki if no one posts a screenie of the mod in question.

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Color me another person looking for a dagger handle of (blank)slaying and no love. If these do exist they are rarer then hen's teeth. I suspect some broken code is the culprit.

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Alright, to answer this... First of all, yes, Charrslaying weapons can be crafted in the eye of the north, however NO, they cannot be salvaged off of those weapons, I found out the hard way. Furthermore, I have never seen a single dagger, scythe, or spear mod of slaying, And find that fairly conclusive results since I had been searching for a dagger mod of Dwarfslaying ever since EoTN came out and I found out about fonris irontoe's lair. I can also confirm that they are definetly still dropping for whomever said they're not, and I'm still searching for a few (20%) axe mods for my warrior, and I would bet my coveted req 9 magmas +10 vs dwarves, -2 (stance) that they do not exist as of current.

-as for the "broken code" theory, I (personally) belive that anet didn't think to add these mods when the weapons were first introduced.

-also I don't really understand why there are staff wrappings of slaying, as the +20% damage doesn't effect spells.

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Originally Posted by Yang Whirlwind View Post
I have spend several hundred hours in the sell forum - and never seen one off these for sale (not to mention never having one drop) - merchant fodder??!!
Hate to have to tell you this, but I think you might have made a bid mistake!

Still looking for the proverbial "smoking gun" people - screenshot please!
Problem is that most of the weapons with those mods go to merch. Most people tend to treat even perfect slaying mods as worthless....Maybe a way would be to make a buy thread for them with some better offers even for imperfect ones. Hopefully if those mods exist someone with one of them will bump on the thread. I think then the chances will be higher. Gold tends to motivate people!

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I know I've had daggers of pruning at one point. Not max, quite a low level drop. Sold them off with the mod intact to the merchant long ago. After all, who would want low level daggers that helps against plants?

Yang Whirlwind

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Screenie or it didn't happen! Sorry, but unsubstantiated rumors are no help.

No need for two threads on the subject: Go here