New Elite Armor linked to KoaBD+
Shadowmoon
Seeing how there are only 31 pure sets in gwen, i'd think it be cool to have another set of armor for the elite of the elite in pve. My idea is to have a NPC spawn in your HoM similarly to how the Rainbow Phenix spawns. This NCP would offer a free Max armor inscribable set. But for being a free set, it should have great requirement. Requirement should be r6 KoaBD, A God walking with Mere Mortals, plus have all 6 elite mission statue (7 if they add a slavers exile statue). This "godlike" armor set could only be obtained by the most dedicated pver, similar how high end /rank emotes are obtained by the most dedicated HA'er.
holababe
No.
That would kill GW for me. Armors/weapons should be equally obtainable regardless of your ingame ability/time spent etc.
Titles, sure! Give a reward to the dedicated pve players. But don't make it armor.
That would kill GW for me. Armors/weapons should be equally obtainable regardless of your ingame ability/time spent etc.
Titles, sure! Give a reward to the dedicated pve players. But don't make it armor.
Shadowmoon
i find it retard that all armor can be gotten from solo how much in game cash you can farm/ebay. I really want elite armor that really is elite, that you really have to work for. I think the gwen armors requiring rep was a great idea wish they left them at r7 like preview event. FoW used to be an achievement, now it just meh, i want some armor that make u go wow, similar to the rainbow phenix did at the beginning.
holababe
If you want that style of game, where you need to grind to prove 'skills' then you should play WoW.
Getting Exalted with Argent Dawn should prove these skills.
Getting Exalted with Argent Dawn should prove these skills.
Mineria
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If you want that style of game, where you need to grind to prove 'skills' then you should play WoW.
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A different skin shouldn't be a big deal, stats are the same anyway.
You still need to grind for some of the other elite armors, so if you have to max some titles and such for an additional set, whats the difference?
It all takes time anyway.
FelixCarter
Who cares if people can get armor that you can't?
Krytan = Elite Sunspear = Istani = Obsidian = Ancient = Canthan = Ascalon = etc...
All armors are the same. The appearance is just different. You want to spend 230,000,000 ectos + 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000K on armor? Go ahead. I'm not gonna stop you.
I'll stick with 1.5K armor. It's just as good as yours.
/Signed.
And if people are gonna start complainign about PvE discrimination: Get an active Guild and realize that discrimination is going to exist no matter what.
Krytan = Elite Sunspear = Istani = Obsidian = Ancient = Canthan = Ascalon = etc...
All armors are the same. The appearance is just different. You want to spend 230,000,000 ectos + 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000K on armor? Go ahead. I'm not gonna stop you.
I'll stick with 1.5K armor. It's just as good as yours.
/Signed.
And if people are gonna start complainign about PvE discrimination: Get an active Guild and realize that discrimination is going to exist no matter what.
Deadlyjunk
/signed
No good reason not to.
No good reason not to.
MirkoTeran
/Signed.. just because I could get it.. not that I would ever buy it.
bilateralrope
Its just a vanity item that gives no stat boost. Even though I doubt I'll ever obtain it, I see no reason to object here.
Having no gold and material cost doesn't sit quite right with me. So give it a token cost of say 10k and some materials per piece. But this isn't really important.
/signed
Having no gold and material cost doesn't sit quite right with me. So give it a token cost of say 10k and some materials per piece. But this isn't really important.
/signed
Antheus
Why?
The difference between FoW and this is that FoW can be obtained in a million ways.
With this, you'll need to grind the titles on same character.
el oh el? For KoaBD?
Precisely the reason it's so hated. It's not related to skill or experience. It requires grind.
The difference between FoW and this is that FoW can be obtained in a million ways.
With this, you'll need to grind the titles on same character.
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Zahr Dalsk
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Please, no. I'm dedicated but have not been playing since beta. There is no hope of me ever getting r6 before Guild Wars 2. It is unobtainable to me. Therefore I do not support such an idea.
Please, no. I'm dedicated but have not been playing since beta. There is no hope of me ever getting r6 before Guild Wars 2. It is unobtainable to me. Therefore I do not support such an idea.
Mineria
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Please, no. I'm dedicated but have not been playing since beta. There is no hope of me ever getting r6 before Guild Wars 2. It is unobtainable to me. Therefore I do not support such an idea. |
Hyper.nl
/signed
A nice variation on the obsidian armor.
A nice variation on the obsidian armor.
FelixCarter
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Originally Posted by Mineria
Who said that you need to get the armor?
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Why is it people think titles and armor are different? They're both made for vanity.
If you can't get it before GW2, who cares? I won't be getting it either. Niether will allot of other people.
All these people that wasted their lives getting KoaBD have shouted for something that they can caress and say "my precious" to while the go to bed. Why not make it another vanity item?
Shadowmoon
If you ever look at the PvE titles, most are not grinds. They are what i once heard called "Check List" titles. These include:
Protector, Guardian, Cartographer, Skill Hunter, Vanquisher, and i'll assume master of the north when HM comes.
Do all those, there are 19 max titles, 20 when HM in gwen comes
Minor grind titles, titles that take less than 20 hours of runs to max, include:
Sunspear, Lightbringer, and i'll assume when gwen get HM, all the rep titles will take long.
So 21 max titles with minimal grind, 26 when gwen gets HM
Medium Grind titles, just cost 1-2 mill to max, and just time:
Drunkard (and is clicking a icon every 3 minutes really a grind?), Sweettooth
23 max titles, 28 when HM comes
That leave the extreme grind titles:
lucky,unlucky, kurzick, luxon, wisdom, teasure hunter,
You only need 2 if you want rank 6, God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals, 1 if you are a suriver
This item is only cometic, high rank heros get a title and a emote, PvE'er should get alittle shiny:P
Btw, I've only started playing a month after factions came out, didn't take long to get 22 max titles,
Btw, when i played WoW i DID hit exalted with Argent Dawn, all the reward then was just cometic (before Nax came out, quit when AQ came out), +5 to all ressitance wasn't that must of a upgrade, when there was only MC and BWL around when everything mostly used fire.
Protector, Guardian, Cartographer, Skill Hunter, Vanquisher, and i'll assume master of the north when HM comes.
Do all those, there are 19 max titles, 20 when HM in gwen comes
Minor grind titles, titles that take less than 20 hours of runs to max, include:
Sunspear, Lightbringer, and i'll assume when gwen get HM, all the rep titles will take long.
So 21 max titles with minimal grind, 26 when gwen gets HM
Medium Grind titles, just cost 1-2 mill to max, and just time:
Drunkard (and is clicking a icon every 3 minutes really a grind?), Sweettooth
23 max titles, 28 when HM comes
That leave the extreme grind titles:
lucky,unlucky, kurzick, luxon, wisdom, teasure hunter,
You only need 2 if you want rank 6, God Walking Amongst Mere Mortals, 1 if you are a suriver
This item is only cometic, high rank heros get a title and a emote, PvE'er should get alittle shiny:P
Btw, I've only started playing a month after factions came out, didn't take long to get 22 max titles,
Btw, when i played WoW i DID hit exalted with Argent Dawn, all the reward then was just cometic (before Nax came out, quit when AQ came out), +5 to all ressitance wasn't that must of a upgrade, when there was only MC and BWL around when everything mostly used fire.
Mineria
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Originally Posted by FelixCarter
Why not make it another vanity item?
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GW gets a vanity item that requires grind to archive.
I could not care less either, since I pick the stuff that I think looks best.
Why should I care, if it shows some magical status or what so ever, when the stats are equal to all the other sets?
Craywulf
There are those who have no issues with grinding and don't see it as negative way of playing. Vanity items may appear to reward grinding, but in reality the benefit purely subjective in terms of whether the reward appeals to the grinder. There are plenty of pro-grind players who may just not like the vanity item in question and choose not to grind for it.
If the vanity item appeals to you then you have no choice but to grind if you want it.
/signed
If the vanity item appeals to you then you have no choice but to grind if you want it.
/signed
Snow Bunny
Oh sure, let's be retarded and make ANet pander even more to the PvE side of this. It's not like they haven't made it abundantly clear that that's all they could really care about at this point. Make them devote more of their limited time to needless garbage while neglecting valuable skill updates.
/notsigned.
C'mon people....are you serious?
/notsigned.
C'mon people....are you serious?
Div
PKM+ already has rainbow phoenix. There's no need to increase your epeen with uber armor.
Div
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C'mon people....are you serious?
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KlutzySpy
i have never heard of someone being r6 i KoaBD :S make one for r1, r2 and so on
Shadowmoon
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PKM+ already has rainbow phoenix. There's no need to increase your epeen with uber armor.
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Btw, i love when all the pvp addicts get pissed when pve addicts like myself wants soemthign to show off my achievements with, even tho pvp get a emote and reward points that gets them armors and skins that used to be reserved to pve character that was made pvp ready. Also the best chest in the game, can slavers/mallyx chest drop a multi mil item.
Zahr Dalsk
r6 KoaBD? Highest I have ever seen is r4. How many people actually have r6 anyways?
Snow Bunny
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Then remove everything but the deer head for HA rank. Just because low rank gets a so-so reward,(has to be r/ or /r to display it, and only outside of outposts), doesn't mean the higher rank shouldn't get rewards. I think alot of pver been waiting for a way to display the acheivements outside a title, similar to the /rank that HA'er get.
Btw, i love when all the pvp addicts get pissed when pve addicts like myself wants soemthign to show off my achievements with, even tho pvp get a emote and reward points that gets them armors and skins that used to be reserved to pve character that was made pvp ready. Also the best chest in the game, can slavers/mallyx chest drop a multi mil item. |
) and your whole argument fails.Besides
Why again would ANet want to waste more time on something <5% of the GW populace would enjoy?
You aren't much a strategic analyst, are you.
Aeyl
Lineage 2, World of Warcraft, Title Wars.. wait what? Title Wars?
/notsigned
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getalifebud
/signed
Lots of people are complaining because this is out of their reach, its out of mine too but I think it would be nice if there was a common armor that you could get for certain PvE titles.
Lots of people are complaining because this is out of their reach, its out of mine too but I think it would be nice if there was a common armor that you could get for certain PvE titles.
Shadowmoon
[QUOTE=Snow Bunny]I'm not going to get into this too much, but consider proportionally the effort ANet puts towards PvE and PvP (it's like the population of Los Angeles compared to that of North Dakota - look it up ) and your whole argument fails.QUOTE]
Nice strawman.....
Point is there is no high end pve "shiny". Just because <5% will get it does mean it shouldn't be there. Are you honestly thinking when someone hit rank 15 hero there will not be a new emote. Or that the there are no Exotic Weapons from ATS. PvP gets a high end shinys, pve needs one, and the pheonix req is to low to be high end,(PKM can be easly gotten without stepping foot in HM)
Btw, i know of noone with r6 right now, highest person i know has 27, but there are tons of r4s out there, and that without the GWEN titles being maxiable, HM GWEN will make all those r4s into r5s.
) and your whole argument fails.QUOTE] Nice strawman.....
Point is there is no high end pve "shiny". Just because <5% will get it does mean it shouldn't be there. Are you honestly thinking when someone hit rank 15 hero there will not be a new emote. Or that the there are no Exotic Weapons from ATS. PvP gets a high end shinys, pve needs one, and the pheonix req is to low to be high end,(PKM can be easly gotten without stepping foot in HM)
Btw, i know of noone with r6 right now, highest person i know has 27, but there are tons of r4s out there, and that without the GWEN titles being maxiable, HM GWEN will make all those r4s into r5s.
milan
Another thread of this, thought this idea was over with after the last 7 page thread.
Epic Armour Unlockable by maxing titles
If you are really that desperate for it then why not, I just see no reason why the time and effort should be put in for such a small percentage of the gw population.
Epic Armour Unlockable by maxing titles
If you are really that desperate for it then why not, I just see no reason why the time and effort should be put in for such a small percentage of the gw population.
Ghostcell
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if you want elite armor buy FoW and get a dread mask and chaos gloves etc.
all armor is the same, weather new armor were added or not it would not stop me working on titles.
i don't want some new "elite of the elite" armor added because you'll get a bunch of jerks going ooo look at me i got uber elite armor i'm the best.
plus whats to say it looks that great, i mean it could look like complete crap.
and not have to pay for it? i'm sure if they can get that many titles they could easily afford to pay the gold needed for it.
if you want elite armor buy FoW and get a dread mask and chaos gloves etc.
all armor is the same, weather new armor were added or not it would not stop me working on titles.
i don't want some new "elite of the elite" armor added because you'll get a bunch of jerks going ooo look at me i got uber elite armor i'm the best.
plus whats to say it looks that great, i mean it could look like complete crap.
and not have to pay for it? i'm sure if they can get that many titles they could easily afford to pay the gold needed for it.
Diddy bow
/notsigned, Id rather have it for doing somthing else tbh
EternalTempest
/not signed
This still would not tell me your "elite". The only way I'll go oohh.. that's cool (as in working your butt off) is to have armor from items only you can earn that can not be bought with gold and items you can not get from trading.
I will comment on cool looking armor / dye jobs but that won't tell me your skill or how much work you did.
This still would not tell me your "elite". The only way I'll go oohh.. that's cool (as in working your butt off) is to have armor from items only you can earn that can not be bought with gold and items you can not get from trading.
I will comment on cool looking armor / dye jobs but that won't tell me your skill or how much work you did.
freekedoutfish
I dont mind the idea, but why KOABD?
Why not PKNM or VIP or above?
Surely a mid-range rank in that title would make more sense! KOABD is extremely easy to get with all protectors and elite skills and exploration!
Why not PKNM or VIP or above?
Surely a mid-range rank in that title would make more sense! KOABD is extremely easy to get with all protectors and elite skills and exploration!
Thargor
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PKM+ already has rainbow phoenix. There's no need to increase your epeen with uber armor.
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I will not disagree with the idea of PvE guys having something "shiny" to show off for accomplishing that many titles, I do have to disagree with it being armor.
I really don't need another bad re-skin of any armor. I say give us an emote so we can spam it in the PvP areas and look just as stupid as those guys spamming it in our towns!
Seriously, it would be cool to have some kind of exclusive high-end treat for putting in all the work it would take to get it. Just don't let it be a re-skin of something that is already out there. Make it something new and just as good looking as the /rank emotes.
Snow Bunny
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What exactly does that god awful looking space chicken have to do with this discussion?
I will not disagree with the idea of PvE guys having something "shiny" to show off for accomplishing that many titles, I do have to disagree with it being armor. I really don't need another bad re-skin of any armor. I say give us an emote so we can spam it in the PvP areas and look just as stupid as those guys spamming it in our towns! Seriously, it would be cool to have some kind of exclusive high-end treat for putting in all the work it would take to get it. Just don't let it be a re-skin of something that is already out there. Make it something new and just as good looking as the /rank emotes. |
That should be sufficient.
Mohnzh
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What is everyone's problem with this? "I can't get it so nobody should be able to". I would never be able to get it, but I would love to see someone walking around with something that lets me see automatically that they are one of the few that have been around since the beginning, stayed dedicated, and know this game to its fullest. So what if I can't get it? So what if you can't get it? Isn't the attitude of "if not me, then nobody" almost as childish and immature as we can get? We shouldn't be selfish, we don't HAVE to have everything.
What is everyone's problem with this? "I can't get it so nobody should be able to". I would never be able to get it, but I would love to see someone walking around with something that lets me see automatically that they are one of the few that have been around since the beginning, stayed dedicated, and know this game to its fullest. So what if I can't get it? So what if you can't get it? Isn't the attitude of "if not me, then nobody" almost as childish and immature as we can get? We shouldn't be selfish, we don't HAVE to have everything.
Snow Bunny
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I would never be able to get it, but I would love to see someone walking around with something that lets me see automatically that they are one of the few that...know this game to its fullest.
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I'll tell you right now.
I went asuran farming with a guy the other day. R4 KoaBD, 1 title from r5.
His Zhed was using SF, used RoF, and Healing Breeze.
His Dunkoro used Healing Breeze too.
He also told me that WoH is much better than LoD.
I have met dozens like him. If you think for a moment KoaBD means all that much in terms of game-mechanics and knowledge you're dead wrong.
r6 just means WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS.
And back to my original argument.
Do we really want ANet wasting more time on meaningless perks when things like skill updates aren't given a second glance?
Horseman Of War
I have too many characters in too many directions to ever get a high KoaBD rank on any of them.
I think the idea is awesome tho-
im not a fan of the rainbow phoenix; looks kind of lame, and really only useful for certain classes (ranger, possibly paragon or warrior). it would be more appropriate, imo, to have the phoenix-level KoBD title grant something different depending on your class
People Know I Have No Life (10)
I think the idea is awesome tho-
im not a fan of the rainbow phoenix; looks kind of lame, and really only useful for certain classes (ranger, possibly paragon or warrior). it would be more appropriate, imo, to have the phoenix-level KoBD title grant something different depending on your class
People Know I Have No Life (10)
Mohnzh
Your argument is very valid, but I think there is a big difference between r4 and r6. In order to get r6, you must have legendary vanquisher and legendary guardian. If that guy can get through everything in the game in HM with his skill setup, maybe it's better than you realize. I pick LoD of WoH like you, but could there possibly be a time or build in which WoH is better? I can't say. I don't know every permutation, and to claim that because I can't think of a situation means that there cannot be one would be extremely arrogant of me. So, I think the r6 req actually would indicate a high level of skill and thorough knowledge and understanding of the game.
Honestly, my first reaction to the r6 req was thinking it was too high, but even before my previous post I recognized that r6 makes sense for the reasons listed here. Yes, to get r6 you must have WAY too much time. I will never have that much time. I finally got PKM this weekend, but I don't see how I will ever make r3. I consider myself fairly well skilled. So I do agree with you in that r6 does say a lot about your free time, but I must disagree that it says nothing about your skill.
Honestly, my first reaction to the r6 req was thinking it was too high, but even before my previous post I recognized that r6 makes sense for the reasons listed here. Yes, to get r6 you must have WAY too much time. I will never have that much time. I finally got PKM this weekend, but I don't see how I will ever make r3. I consider myself fairly well skilled. So I do agree with you in that r6 does say a lot about your free time, but I must disagree that it says nothing about your skill.
Thargor
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I'll tell you right now. I went asuran farming with a guy the other day. R4 KoaBD, 1 title from r5. His Zhed was using SF, used RoF, and Healing Breeze. His Dunkoro used Healing Breeze too. He also told me that WoH is much better than LoD. I have met dozens like him. If you think for a moment KoaBD means all that much in terms of game-mechanics and knowledge you're dead wrong. r6 just means WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS. And back to my original argument. Do we really want ANet wasting more time on meaningless perks when things like skill updates aren't given a second glance? |
If WoH, SF, and RoF are so useless then why are they in the game?
They all work, and they all work well. You may not like them for whatever reason and that is fine. From personal experience I can say that a WoH healing monk hero and an RC prot monk hero can get just about anyone thru any part of the game with very few exceptions. I don't play a monk very often and when I do I will be the first to admit that I am not really good at it.
I don't use LoD because I have never used it on my monk so I don't know how good or bad it may be.
My hero monks have got a couple of my characters thru all three games, one of them being a legendary survivor assassin that had all the games beat before getting to R3 survivor using only hero/hench.
No KoaBD does not really show skill or knowledge, sometimes it shows that someone has a good guild that helps out and gets someone thru things, has spent too much plat on a title, or is really lucky with PUG's. The bottom line is that they stuck it out and got it and for that I say give them something to show for it.
Turbobusa
Everyone complains about the grind needed to get faction armors, and yet some people want to add an armor even harder to get.
Do you just post random suggestions as they come to your mind or do you think before posting them?
Do you just post random suggestions as they come to your mind or do you think before posting them?