HoM and Destroyer Weapons

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Should i be more concerned with equiping each of my characters with what weapon they really need or is this going to be some new title thingy where as if i have every weapon in the HoM unlocked, i get something.

Right now, im equiping each of my characters with one set of destroyer weapons, i just dont want this to come back and bite me in the butt, and later find out you needed to add all the weapons to one guy, to unlock something.

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

Nobody knows for sure what it will unlock, how it will unlock and Anet isn't saying

Chronos the Defiler

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

or if it will unlock....i don't think anything will actually happen when you get them all in your HoM

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

Knowing Anet the weapons will unlock a Title, with rank = to number of weapons on display for that particular char. This is just a guess, but does fit with Anets logic.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

the only thing I've done in HoM is put up the tapestries. I will not make any irreversible decisions without knowing the outcome. Many people have already been burned -- those who put weapons up before customizing them (they can't be customized afterwards), people not knowing that putting their minipets customized them to that character, etc.

As far as I'm concerned, HoM doesn't even exist, despite the deafening hype Gaile and Anet gave it.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
the only thing I've done in HoM is put up the tapestries. I will not make any irreversible decisions without knowing the outcome. Many people have already been burned -- those who put weapons up before customizing them (they can't be customized afterwards), people not knowing that putting their minipets customized them to that character, etc.

As far as I'm concerned, HoM doesn't even exist, despite the deafening hype Gaile and Anet gave it. Ouch, not customized
I didnt even think of that, im lucky i upgraded my weapons 1st, who would want to display a clean weapon? I dont think you should be able to because that would burn my cookies if i found out the hard way.

Could you fill the Destroyer weapons display with the same weapon, just multiple stats? I wish we had more input on the HoM so we didnt make huge costly mistakes.

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

I really hope these things have a small impact on GW2. <_<

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

I hope there huge, I played all summer to get FoW armor and I put it proudly into Hall of Monuments, well not huge but something significant worth noting. Not just a lousy Title but mabye like we start with a special weapon or something.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Pretty sure they already fixed the weapon customization part...

And for anyone to think that there would not be any negative for putting up minis in their HoM is crazy. There had to be a way to prevent people from sharing minipets and allowing everyone and their mom to have every single minipet on every single character. And to then give that minipet to their friend and have them do the same thing.

Anyways, don't be concerned at all about the Hall of Monuments until they release some real information about what will carry over and what kind of benefits you'll get from it. I'm not going to grind out all these title tracks, hero armors, destroyer weapons, only to find out in two years that all I got was a title. All I'm saying is take your time, don't worry about it. If you want to work on your weapons, go ahead, but don't rush, you've got 2 frickin years and no reason (at the moment) to worry about what kind of reward you'll be getting.

keyblader319

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Mrymidon

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Knowing Anet the weapons will unlock a Title, with rank = to number of weapons on display for that particular char. This is just a guess, but does fit with Anets logic.
Don't say that, you'll give Anet the ideas since they are unable to come up with any particularly good ones themselves.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

I am getting my Destroyer weapons and equipping them on the appropriate characters for the class it belongs to. But I am not doing anything with them HoM-wise until we know more definate information about them. I can't see any need to put up a shield, scythe, axe, sword, staff, offhand all on my ranger (my title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO) to make it be customized to him. That prevents my warrior from using the weapons for a year and half when it may not even be necessary to put them all on one character.

My advice, just wait, don't worry about the hall until the hall becomes relevant.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

i hate destroyer weps, they all are lousy

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

The HoM for 1 character will link directly to a character in GW2. I wouldn't suggest spreading things around. Just don't put anything on display until GW2 comes out, or you're ready to quit GW.

Wrath of m0o

Wrath of m0o

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Boston Ma.

Is That Your Build[HaHa]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
The HoM for 1 character will link directly to a character in GW2. I wouldn't suggest spreading things around. Just don't put anything on display until GW2 comes out, or you're ready to quit GW. umm, i already unlocked HoM with 7/8 of my characters, bought all 4 tapestrys, and already displayed weapons, armor, titles, pets and Hero's.
How is this going to hurt me when GW2 comes out?

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Nobody knows what the various HoM options will give us in GW2, probably not even ANet at the moment. They might have a vague idea, but not more.

I got 3 destroyer weapons for my necro (Curses Wand/Focus + SR staff) and put everything else on hold.


I suggest the following:

Safe your Onyx and Diamonds for later
Wait till we have further info if it makes sense to put multiple wands or non-profession related weapons (Bows for a Necros?) in the HoM.

Matfei

Matfei

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

None. Being a loner X-Fire: matfei1

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Knowing Anet the weapons will unlock a Title, with rank = to number of weapons on display for that particular char. This is just a guess, but does fit with Anets logic. Yeah no super unique armour or wearable item cause it 'would be unfair' to the new players only starting in GW2 or never worked for it in GW...

Ghey... With an H... Obviously.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
Many people have already been burned -- those who put weapons up before customizing them (they can't be customized afterwards), No one has "been burned", as you put it--this bug was already fixed with zero lasting consequences, even for the people that triggered the bug.

On topic: I'm not doing anything with the Hall yet. What's the rush?

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

The only things im putting in the hall right now are titles, armour and heros.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steboy93
The only things im putting in the hall right now are titles, armour and heros. Same. I don't like destroyer weapons, and unless they change it so you can add other certain items, I'll only buy destroyer weapons when everything else is taken cared of and I have some extra money because I know I'm not going to actually be using them in the game.

Mini-pets... I'll wait a while for other birthdays and what not. No reason rushing around like a madman buying all the ones I like when I have years until GW2 comes out and no one even knows what putting this stuff in our HoM does. Is it based on what ones you put in, or how many, or etc? Would be nice to be given some clue, but as someone said, ANet probably doesn't even know now.

MirageMaster

MirageMaster

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

EU

I hate anet for doing this bullshit.I should put in my favorit weapons not the ones blody anet wants me! screw them!

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath of m0o
umm, i already unlocked HoM with 7/8 of my characters, bought all 4 tapestrys, and already displayed weapons, armor, titles, pets and Hero's.
How is this going to hurt me when GW2 comes out? The HoM itself doesn't matter. You're entirely okay putting your armors, heroes+charmed pets, or titles in the HoM, but you need to think carefully about putting Miniatures or Destroyer weapons on a monument.

The things you unlock on 1 character will work directly on 1 character in GW2, so you're probably better off focusing on destroyer weapons/miniatures on just a single character. However, I don't think it will matter in the big scheme of things. I honestly don't think Anet would make unlocks in GW2 something you can't obtain a secondary way, whatever they decide to do as unlocks.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

I'd suggest you pick your favourite character and work on their HoM. Better to have one good HoM than several average HoMs. Same with titles, you get a better result grinding points on one guy for max titles than grinding say rank 5-6 or several guys. Unless you really like vanqing the same place over and over.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matfei
Yeah no super unique armour or wearable item cause it 'would be unfair' to the new players only starting in GW2 or never worked for it in GW...

Ghey... With an H... Obviously.
that is exactly correct and has been officially stated.

the design team will give some very nice *UNIQUE* items/skins/minipets/skills according to what is in the HOM and you can add any qualifying item at any time even after GW2 is live so there is no deadline or rush.

the one thing the design team is being very careful of is that whatever unlocks you get they will be nice but give no advantage over a new player

and i have my opinion of people who say i worked so hard i deserve................it is a game

OS T

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/E

/agree with mirage, I wish they would cut the destroyer weapons, I wish they could make every weapon that you have in the HoM,saying u have crystalline sword and want it to show it on the how,but cant..but instead lets put destroyer weapons instead, and only destroyer weapons. And I really dont understand why the weapons have to be customized when put it on your HoM.

Just wishing A-net could make this happen, that you can take any weapon of your chioce and put in your weapon HoM section..I think A-Net should make this possible..

Dont you guys agree?

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

This has been debated many times already.

We asked for two weapon displays, one for destroyer/unlocks and a second for any weapon we choose with no unlocks attached. They have yet to respond.

Personally I tossed in a destroyer weapon for my main char but will hold off on getting any more for my secondary chars untill it is made very plain exactly what reward is tied to what part of HoM and weather or not you require ALL destroyer weapons or just 1 per char to get it.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Just wondering... has there been any word lately on allowing us to, at the least, display greens? I find it impossible to believe the current excuse for a "Monument of Valor" is its final form.

Government Flu

Government Flu

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Albuquerque, New Mexico

Paradoxa Zoloft Asylum [PXZ]

W/R

I just got two destroyer weapons for my main character. I had to dye her obsidian armor and existing gloom shield black to match everything up, but the biggest problem is the HoM statue of the weapons. It's very small. (I think the statued axe is actually smaller than the one I'm wielding.) So my recommendation is, if you can't afford destroyer weapons at the moment, focus on other aspects of gameplay and save the weapon purchases for later. IE, before GW2 comes out.

Friar Khan

Friar Khan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

I haven't bought any destroyer weapons yet. I have more than enough weapons already and I'm in no rush to get redundant weapon sets in preparation for GW2. Furthermore...

The way the HoM works in GW1 seems to be a work in progress. There remains the hope that more variety of skins can be added and this thread suggests that they may add new weapons that can be added to the HoM. Based on this information I'm thinking there's a noteworthy possibility that we will get the option to add new weapons to the valor monument.

Secondly, I'm waiting until some useful information is given about how weapons in our monument will transfer to GW2. From the sounds of what Gaile said here I'm not expecting all 10 professions to be translated to GW2. If there will be profession consolidation then I probably will want to consolidate my weapons accordingly. Overall the fact that even basics like the number of available professions are up in the air makes me feel that I would assume too much if I purchased destroyer weapons for GW2 based on the types of weapons I use in GW1 (e.g. my monk uses a sword often for +5 energy and in GW2 a caster monk with a sword could be non-sensical).

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

If I put a destroyer staff linked to Spawning Power on the HoM will this guarantee me the ability to make a Ritualist in GW2? I wonder...

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

Raven, the purpose of only allowing destroyer weps in the HoM is to make people play the new dungeons.

Period.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

It should also be noted that the destroyer weapon monument is the ONLY monument that does not allow objects from other chapters in it.

Titles are from all chapters.

Heros/pet companions from Nightfall and Gwen.

Mini-pets from all chapters.

Armor from all chapters.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
and i have my opinion of people who say i worked so hard i deserve................it is a game
Quite right, but it also was a selling point of GWEN: Quote: You can take it with you. So, you can understand if some people feel mislead? (and before you respond, yes, I realize anyone who owns GWEN can get Destroyer weapons. But that's not the point. No other HoM tapestry is GWEN only based... why should Valor be the exception?)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
Heros/pet companions from Nightfall and Gwen. Ranger pets come from Factions and Prophecy, too. (which is probably why they were included in the first place!)

I can only surmise that the Monument of Valor is either incomplete or a blatant attempt to get people to Dungeon grind.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Friar Khan
Overall the fact that even basics like the number of available professions are up in the air makes me feel that I would assume too much if I purchased destroyer weapons for GW2 based on the types of weapons I use in GW1 (e.g. my monk uses a sword often for +5 energy and in GW2 a caster monk with a sword could be non-sensical). Well, when you put a Destroyer item in, it goes in as a generic version of your item. A Furious Destroyer Sword of Defense becomes just Destroyer Sword, and a Destroyer Strength Shield of Fortitude becomes Destroyer Shield. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Ruby Lightheart

Ruby Lightheart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Clan of Elders

R/Mo

i got one destroyer weapon..simply becasue I diddnt want that wall to be empty...the destroyer bow is down right ugnly and the stats are horrid..the engame bow is better..for what you pay in materials and such for the destroyer weapons..their stats should be a whole lot better than what they are.

SkyHiRider

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

They wouldn't need better stats if they were good looking like the tormented ones for example, but since most of the destroyer weapons design is not so good, its only worth buying them if you want them in the hall or you're a collector of high end stuff. Personally id love to put some of my custom stuff in, and not some ugly destroyer stuff...

Kong

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

I'm sure you can't take a Destroyer weapon customized for one of your characters and display it in HoM for another character, but what I'm wondering is...

Can you make a Destroyer Weapon, display it in a HoM then give it to antoher character? Does adding it to HoM customized it like Miniatures?

rangersaurus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by raven214
Just wondering... has there been any word lately on allowing us to, at the least, display greens? I find it impossible to believe the current excuse for a "Monument of Valor" is its final form. As much as I (and I am sure many others) would love to display our greens, I really doubt they would allow it. I would like an official statement either way, so I know to either sell my greens and get a destroyer weapon or get a tormented weapons or just save my greens.

Kong

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kong
I'm sure you can't take a Destroyer weapon customized for one of your characters and display it in HoM for another character, but what I'm wondering is...

Can you make a Destroyer Weapon, display it in a HoM then give it to antoher character? Does adding it to HoM customized it like Miniatures? Found the answer myself, yes they get customized.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
the only thing I've done in HoM is put up the tapestries. I will not make any irreversible decisions without knowing the outcome. Many people have already been burned -- those who put weapons up before customizing them (they can't be customized afterwards), people not knowing that putting their minipets customized them to that character, etc.

As far as I'm concerned, HoM doesn't even exist, despite the deafening hype Gaile and Anet gave it. Weapon customization has already been fixed, and the dev's now of the mini-pet dilemma. It's going to be changed so a mini costumized to your character can also be used by all other characters on that same account, if I'm right. That's 2 things already that's changed after the community voiced their concerns, a little more faith in Anet would be appropriate.