Children.....

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

This is the type of thing that makes cussing in town a bannable offense. It's these kind of children.

I was sitting in RA waiting for timer to start (Anti griefing=hordes of crappy teams, more glad points for me ^^) and I saw a heated discussion going on.

This was undoubtedly going on for some time, but this is what I found.

Also.. a lot of these words bleeped don't start with f, they were calling each other horrible names that start with a n.

I like the /report feature, makes banning these guys easier.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Why do people always bash children for this. You guys do know that the majority of immature people like in the 18-25 range don't you? Now if you're in your 50s you could consider them children but, no. Children 12-15. Those guys are probably older than that. With age comes confidence to break the rules not intelligence to not break them. I would know!

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i never say things like that .. not even when im high o.O ..

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Why do people always bash children for this. You guys do know that the majority of immature people like in the 18-25 range don't you? Now if you're in your 50s you could consider them children but, no. Children 12-15. Those guys are probably older than that. With age comes confidence to break the rules not intelligence to not break them. I would know!
I'm 15. Yes these are children, mature wise.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

/cry

Maturity tests should be mandatory for online games.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

ANet should get their adress and send the chat logs to their parents.. That'd be funny as hell.

OI-812

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere between GW and Fchan on the nets

None

R/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by «Ripskin
ANet should get their adress and send the chat logs to their parents.. That'd be funny as hell.
It would be inspired. OMFG, someone please find a way to do this, officially or unofficially, however possible.

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by OI-812
/cry

Maturity tests should be mandatory for online games.
Most children are smart enough to outsmart such trivial tests that Anet could make.

"Someone calls you a noob, do you :

A: call them a noob.

B: ignore them.

C: get all your alliance, guild, local chat and friends list to call them a noob as well.

D: all of the above, apart from B. "


Yeah I think they would know what to answer. (Its D if some of you arent old enough to work it out).

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

c! lol hey, this guy called me a noob cuz i frenzy/heal sig

lets all spam him after 3 .. 3 2 1...

noob
noob
noob
noob
owned!


=D

arcady

arcady

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

San Francisco native

Mo/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18
Why do people always bash children for this. You guys do know that the majority of immature people like in the 18-25 range don't you?
'Children' in the sense here is anyone 13-25 - which is all in that same curve mentally in that they are driven by hormones and don't yet have a fully developed brain capable of rational judgment. 25 is more mentally developed than 13, but still lacking a full grasp of consequence, and still victim to hormones.

Trav The Ripper

Trav The Ripper

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

N/

blea, its bad yea but as i like t do alo is turn off my local chat. on occasion ill put on local. me being 16 i hate when older players tell me how to act and respond to certin things. It may be a game but still let my soscial skills develope rather than tell me how to act.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

Golden Rule of Guild Wars: Always keep the All chat channel turned off.

You can avoid 98% of the immaturity and idiocy if you do.

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

This might be an obvious question, but how does this affect anyone at all?

So kids use profanity ... and ...?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

What do you expect when you don't pay a monthly fee?

In most cases, the monthly fee weens off the kids who don't have parents who are willing to pay.

If you compare WoW's Barrens Chat to GW's Temple/RA, it's quite obvious which one is the lesser of two evils.

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
What do you expect when you don't pay a monthly fee?

In most cases, the monthly fee weens off the kids who don't have parents who are willing to pay.

If you compare WoW's Barrens Chat to GW's Temple/RA, it's quite obvious which one is the lesser of two evils.
I kinda agree in that. Even in LOTRO, people invite strangers to party complete same quest easier and are overall more social.

Gigashadow

Gigashadow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Bellevue, WA

W/

It is true. Although I enjoy playing the game, GW has, by far, the worst community I have ever seen for this sort of game.

This is because there is no accountability for being an asshole; there are so many people (since there is no concept of a home server, and people play more alts than a typical mmorpg), you will rarely run into the same person twice, or recognize a guild tag. Personal reputation seems to mean almost nothing in GW, and it's really not possible in this game for a person to actually get a "well known" bad reputation for harassing other players.

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Heh you get immature people in all games...pay ones especially WOW and such can get them big time.

But you also get high class imature people. Level 60 tanks walking around in starter gear. Heh I remember in FFXI watching another party *I usually play a paladin* die in seconds because their paladin was a paladin/WHM and had starter gear.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfwing
But you also get high class imature people. Level 60 tanks walking around in starter gear. Heh I remember in FFXI watching another party *I usually play a paladin* die in seconds because their paladin was a paladin/WHM and had starter gear.
Being a bad player (unintentionally) doesn't mean the player is immature.

Otherwise, half the players on these forums would be considered "immature."

wolfwing

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Heh by level 60...they are quiet intentional.

That be like someone doing Hall of hero's in starter armour, or such. The ones I'm talking too, are the ones the defined the word newb. The ones that not only play the game 100% the wrong way *not playing their own style* but also refuse to listen or try to tell others how to play the game. It's not that someone is that high and using that armour, but even when told they should upgrade to something better they get defensive or offensive about it.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Immature people exist everywhere.

Yes, even in p2p MMOs like FFXI.

Yes I've seen them.

All you can do is send a report or whatever to anet and the time and area where it happened, and the name of the person. They'll most likely get banned.

I however keep all chat off and avoid all of these issues altogether. It's a convenient fix really.

mrmango

mrmango

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Southern California

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Me/Rt

Yes, /report. That's better than doing nothing. Ignoring them is a waste of time, getting them to ignore you (without profanity of course) is better, and more fun.
I'm 16.

Aeon221

Aeon221

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

[TEW]

N/

I wish everyone who ever misspelled anything was banned from GW and the internet. It would make the place a hell of a lot better if the rest of you just had to sit on the sidelines until you learned the difference between there, their and they're.

And as to flaming in local, I've got a simple metric: racism/sexism/gayism = bad, anything else = fun. Flame wars are an entertaining method of dealing with frustration, and I've always loved them.

Besides, I'm sure that you lot are the h/h only peeps who contribute nothing to the community and may as well not be there. So, thanks for existing by default, glad to hear from you, good to know you keep local off, bubye.

boogerboy72

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2007

[Scar]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeon221
And as to flaming in local, I've got a simple metric: racism/sexism/gayism = bad, anything else = fun. Flame wars are an entertaining method of dealing with frustration, and I've always loved them.

Besides, I'm sure that you lot are the h/h only peeps who contribute nothing to the community and may as well not be there. So, thanks for existing by default, glad to hear from you, good to know you keep local off, bubye.
Quoted for truth.

i see the deff. of "noob" as someone i played fow with today, an ele that kept running ahead and aggroing everything. we constantly asked them to stop, and they said, hey, im not hurting anything.

then we died. noobs ftl.

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

you know, sometimes i purposely act like a jerk just to see the reaction from these uptight types. it's always very entertaining to see them sputter.

cruel and malicious? perhaps. driven by hormones with poor grasp of consequences? no. i know very well what the consequences are, and i also know the humor the situation is worth far more what possible consequences for me may result (which btw, there are very little if none at all).

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmango
Yes, /report. That's better than doing nothing. Ignoring them is a waste of time, getting them to ignore you (without profanity of course) is better, and more fun.
I'm 16.
It's funny how people like to validate the /report command as if they could never do something in the in the game before to deal with people cussing. Whats even better is those who complain about it and seem to have never discovered what a chat filter of for.

Do everyone a favor before you whine about it and try to either setting the level to normal or max.

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
What do you expect when you don't pay a monthly fee?

In most cases, the monthly fee weens off the kids who don't have parents who are willing to pay.

If you compare WoW's Barrens Chat to GW's Temple/RA, it's quite obvious which one is the lesser of two evils.
Maybe on your server it's the lesser.. But the one I played on is just as bad, and sometimes worse.

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

Why are people obsessed with hormones? What leads them to think that at a certain age they disappear? When a person reaches the age of 25 do they suddenly lose their hormones?

There are numerous hormones throughout the body and most of them would result in death without them. Rational thought would certainly be impossible without them.

The simple answer to anyone utilising abusive language, or actions, is that they are unsociable, ignoramuses, incapable of normal interactions with others.

While reporting them is necessary its unlikely to solve their behaviour, but may make those suffereing from it slightly happier

??Ripskin

??Ripskin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu

Do everyone a favor before you whine about it and try to either setting the level to normal or max.
Okay, I keep my filter off because I swear with friends. Just like almost everyone else does.

Quote:
children make threads about what people say

grow up
We're grown up, that's not to say others are.
Be mature.

doinchi

doinchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Singapore

Sheperd of Souls

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by OI-812
It would be inspired. OMFG, someone please find a way to do this, officially or unofficially, however possible.
Best idea I have heard in a while. Maybe they could require a parent's email address for players below 16. If they were reported, the chat log could be sent to the parents.

But on the other hand, I think they should have left things the way they were. I have never had any problems that could not be solved wit the chat filter or the ignore lists. If someone is swearing at you, block them. If there are a whole lot of people swearing and it annoys you, turn on the filter.

I personally don't mind someone saying "Oh ^%$# I forgot to bring my cap sig!", but what annoys me is when they say "OMG you &$#@ nub learn to play &^%#er!"

Even still, I would not bother to report them. I say, keep things as they were.

EDIT: I just read another post I will hold my tongue until I see PvP Dishonor used or abused. Aparently, people are reporting players for stupid reasons and giving them dishonor points.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by doinchi
Best idea I have heard in a while. Maybe they could require a parent's email address for players below 16. If they were reported, the chat log could be sent to the parents.
And the company loses a sizable percentage of their playerbase and goes bankrupt due to children and/or their parents refusing to play.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by RSGashapon
Golden Rule of Guild Wars: Always keep the All chat channel turned off.
Yes, go ahead and turn off all chat. Then come here in a week or three and join in the complaining about the lack of community in GW.

If people want to clean up the offensive, disgusting, and down-right hateful junk that a few losers unleash in towns, report them! You may think that A-Net won't punish offenders, but you won't know for sure it they suspend someone or not, but it better than knowing for a fact that they won't punish anyone unless it's brought to their attention.

Now, I've recieved the auto-response "please use chat filter, blah, blah, blah" when I report this kind of crap, but that's not gonna deter me from doing it. If A-Net discovers that the community is sick and tired (only way to do that is to overload them with reporting offenders) of the crap these pathetic losers spew, then maybe, just maybe they'll crack down on it - sorta like they did with trade chat. (I'm not talking about the one bad word kind of thing, here.)

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Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Kook, I think you should listen to that auto-response - it's good advice.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Don't worry A-net thought of this from the begging "Prohibited to children under 13" To bad they can't inforce it. And I agree send chats to parents!

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigashadow
It is true. Although I enjoy playing the game, GW has, by far, the worst community I have ever seen for this sort of game.

This is because there is no accountability for being an asshole; there are so many people (since there is no concept of a home server, and people play more alts than a typical mmorpg), you will rarely run into the same person twice, or recognize a guild tag. Personal reputation seems to mean almost nothing in GW, and it's really not possible in this game for a person to actually get a "well known" bad reputation for harassing other players.
QFT I remember on World Of Warcraft is you ninjaed an item you would be exiled on your server.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Really this thread is just as bad as a so called child saying poop in local.

And don't trust the /report feature its not gonna be around for this kinda stuff. And Anet don't care they suppl a filter its your own fault if your exposed.
Currently its being used to report monks in RA that heal better then the other team deals damage.


Ripskin, if you were mature, even at the rip old age of 15. You would laugh and let it slide. There only words.
But yeah ranting and attempting to create a moral panic on a web forum is so much easier then forgettting about it.

HayesA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Pennsylvania

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeon221
I wish everyone who ever misspelled anything was banned from GW and the internet. It would make the place a hell of a lot better if the rest of you just had to sit on the sidelines until you learned the difference between there, their and they're.
Just because someone knows this, and respects it, doesn't mean typos don't happen. Especially when you're in the heat of battle, and you're trying to shout orders in chat for whatever reason. I know that most serious players use Vent or Teamspeak, and that's really cool and all; I even use it when I have a working mic. But sometimes when I don't have a working mic, or a player doesn't have a working mic, then we have to type it out in chat. Not every cool, skilled player is an expert typist/never misspells anything ya' know? I know some really smart people; people with a typing record of 80+WPM still occasionally misspell something, or gets a typo.

Although I agree, the local chat is sometimes filled with immaturity. I admit I sometimes get trapped in flames, or online slang. Does that make me a bad person?

I usually leave local chat off, and only chat to guild/allience friends. But when i'm trying to sell wares, i'll turn it back on. I also turn it back on when i'm looking for a PUG. But then again, I usually don't take offense to most things. Working customer service for a number of years, plus a lot of R rated films, anime, television, high school (), etc etc etc... have really desensitized me to excessive language.

I have friends who really take offense to it, and I ask them "why?? They're only words!" They usually have no response to this at all, or it's something like "but it's immature!" I don't disagree with them; it IS immature. When used childlessly, and excessively. There are times when excessive language can add to the atmosphere of a situation though. It can add to the charactor in a story, ot otherwise paint a picture of who that person is at the core.

o m g pizowned

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006

most of the immaturity i know is 20+ year olds to be honest. the younger kids (12-15) only get real immature if you provoke them

Gattocheese

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

New Mexico

GWEN

The is a reason for a text filter. Also people are way to sensitve to terms these days. I can understand that curse words can be rather offensive to some people, but its a part of every day life and every day people. Alot of people cant say a sentence these days without some sort of profanity in it. People who get called a noob or a curse word need to suck it up a lil.

I think reportable offenses are Racial/Religion/Sexual, everything else is a part of every day life, so why would it not be a part of a popular video game? And as far as kids playing these games, ratings change when your online, if your gonna let your kid play this game, it should require supervision.

MoldyRiceFrenzy

MoldyRiceFrenzy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Santa Rosa, CA

Confusion in The Ranks[tArD]

Mo/W

u cant ban words without banning speech. its all one nice fun package

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

On the flipside of all this 'kids aren't immature, adults are!' discussion, the most annoyingly immature player I know is 12.