Okay this is SERIOUSLY ridiculous. GW:EN has VERY little gold drops, and only chance i've ever gotten any was solo and that was even rare. More ridiculous is that in hard mode in an area i like to mess around and clear out with a friend drops absolutely no golds, the entire area in this sulfurous waste area, drops NOTHING... Whites and blues.. wow soooo love it. I mean what happened to all the gods that were dropping when hard mode was introduced/even after the revamping of drop rates... Its ridiculous and ruins the fun for the farmers because seriously their is NO other way to make money other than farming or exploiting other peoples own cash which they barely have any by charging them for something (which is what I have to do so i canhave some money, charge others for services) instead of making my own money by being able to farm. Screw all the gold sellers, let people who buy gold be punished not the people trying to make some money or get what they want in the game and can't earn otherwise without being able to farm. GW:EN is useless to me because the damn usage of new graphics engines that make me driver error and therefore need to find some extra cash which i don't have to upgrade.....
Where have all the golds gone?
Where have all the golds gone?
Kushiels_Scion
Curse You
Crappy drops are not a bug.
kazjun
GWEN has crap for drops, and the sulfurous wastes are probably nerfed cause everyone and his wolf uses the place for LB/SS farming. Other areas of NF and factions still seem to drop fine. Got a couple of golds just finishing some quests leftover from factions the other day. All GWEN has a greens and gems, you be expecting good golds.
HawkofStorms
rant threads about crap drops are not a bug (as Curse_You said)
Request /close please
Request /close please
Kushiels_Scion
It is a bug or unecessary nerf if a place that I have been to on occasion farm around and IN HARD MODE which hard mode alone is suppose to give MORE gold drops, yet when it drops NONE something is up. So what if this is a rant, its a legitimate one. A place where i used to find some difficult fun and get some fairly good drops no longer offers anything but a measly mummy wrapping..Ohh and it's Poisoned Outcrops by the way.
Crappy drops in HARD MODE, meaning NO GOLDS, are in fact a bug especially if very few people are farming the particular area at all.
Crappy drops in HARD MODE, meaning NO GOLDS, are in fact a bug especially if very few people are farming the particular area at all.
gremlin
It may be now that Greens are considered secondary to Golds, they are now harder to find.
With the exception of a few greens that still fetch high prices perfect gold items are more sought after.
So there may have been a rebalancing in the rarity of gold vs green.
Golds still to be obtained from the chests in nightfall and are replanished monthly but has there ever been a double or triple gold drop weekend like the green ones.
With the exception of a few greens that still fetch high prices perfect gold items are more sought after.
So there may have been a rebalancing in the rarity of gold vs green.
Golds still to be obtained from the chests in nightfall and are replanished monthly but has there ever been a double or triple gold drop weekend like the green ones.
HawkofStorms
Its a rant. I've gotten like 7 golds droping (not chests) by playing ~4 hours of HM in the past couple of days. You have no backing for your theory (its just based on personal observation). Also, you complain about no gold drops in GW:EN and then talk about no golds in HM (keep in mind, none of GW:EN is in HM yet, even though it does require lockpicks).
The Bug Section is for serious and actual, confirmable bugs. Put this thread in riverside where it belongs until/unless you have some viable evidence to support your claims.
The Bug Section is for serious and actual, confirmable bugs. Put this thread in riverside where it belongs until/unless you have some viable evidence to support your claims.
KlutzySpy
i will say that 2/3's are purp, but hey, making golds more rare is a way if increasing their value..
L|S >+>+G+<+<
All the golds are in my 6,000,000 slots of space storage chest.
And yes Elvis does live in a tent on the moon.
And yes Elvis does live in a tent on the moon.
Kushiels_Scion
7 golds in 4 hours? Yeah thats fantastic.... not
I did not say GW:EN has no golds, its just rare to find any and thats not my complaint, its an observation.
As for hard mode its suppose to have more gold drops THAN in normal mode which just isn't ocuring in this one place or even others, and i have done more than just one run through the place maybe 1 our of 5 runs they'll be one gold. Only chance for golds now seems to be chests which are increasingly expensive for those without money. The only way to make money is to farm and if things aren't dropping at the rate its suppose to for the mode that the farming is done in, is certainly a bug of some sort.
I did not say GW:EN has no golds, its just rare to find any and thats not my complaint, its an observation.
As for hard mode its suppose to have more gold drops THAN in normal mode which just isn't ocuring in this one place or even others, and i have done more than just one run through the place maybe 1 our of 5 runs they'll be one gold. Only chance for golds now seems to be chests which are increasingly expensive for those without money. The only way to make money is to farm and if things aren't dropping at the rate its suppose to for the mode that the farming is done in, is certainly a bug of some sort.
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7 golds in 4 hours? Yeah thats fantastic.... not
I did not say GW:EN has no golds, its just rare to find any and thats not my complaint, its an observation. As for hard mode its suppose to have more gold drops THAN in normal mode which just isn't ocuring in this one place or even others, and i have done more than just one run through the place maybe 1 our of 5 runs they'll be one gold. Only chance for golds now seems to be chests which are increasingly expensive for those without money. The only way to make money is to farm and if things aren't dropping at the rate its suppose to for the mode that the farming is done in, is certainly a bug of some sort. |
Gold drops have been BOOSTED significantly over time, especially with NF. If they lowered there occurance over time, its not a bug, its a.net implement a new drop system.
A.net couldn't "accidentally" lower drop rates. Even if your complaints are legitamate, its not a bug, it would be the implementation of a new system.
khaderach19
I was doing the gates of kryta mission yesterday with my assassin and I got 2 gold drops during one run alone. I was also fighting my way through the northern shiverpeaks area towards yaks bend and I got 4 gold drops from that run (plus several blues and purples). I heard that people aren't getting enough gold drops, but I personally have never experienced it.
Faer
Getting crappy drops is not a bug. It is just bad luck.
As such, your thread has been moved to The Riverside Inn, where you can continue to discuss your lack of luck, until such a time as a Riverside moderator deems your conversation an endless cycle of ranting and complaining, at which point they will probably close it.
Carry on.
As such, your thread has been moved to The Riverside Inn, where you can continue to discuss your lack of luck, until such a time as a Riverside moderator deems your conversation an endless cycle of ranting and complaining, at which point they will probably close it.
Carry on.
mr_groovy
It's not a bug, it's a feature 
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Only solo farming yields some golds these days. Though last time i did a hm vanquish i got 3 golds from a locked chest, and 1 gold drop
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.Only solo farming yields some golds these days. Though last time i did a hm vanquish i got 3 golds from a locked chest, and 1 gold drop
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They are either rare and worth something or drop like crazy and worth nothing - you can't have both. 7 in four hours is WAY too much for them to be worth squat. As is they are really only good for grinding a title, they drop so often it doesn't even take long to equip all your heroes across multiple characters with golds and max mods without needing to go to the player market.
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Traveller
Yeah, I've had a total of ONE gold drop in the whole time I've played GW:EN. The dungeon drops have been mostly crap too.
One thing I'm constantly wondering is how an expansion which is meant for level 20 players, which also contains only level 20 enemies and higher, can drop so much non-max loot.
One thing I'm constantly wondering is how an expansion which is meant for level 20 players, which also contains only level 20 enemies and higher, can drop so much non-max loot.
Government Flu
I get plenty of gold drops. It's just that they generally suck. Either the mods are just close to perfect or the weapon has a high requirement, or it's something that very few people would bother buying, like a mesmer focus.
If you're looking to get some high end golds, I'm afraid that it has always been a game of chance. I cleared two of the elite Slaver's Dungeon. What did I get after killing Justicar Thommis? A R13 sai! The mods were bad, the skin was a common collector/crafter variety, and the requirement was at its highest.
And this was in an elite dungeon. So, it's a game of chance. And like all games of chance, you're probably going to get ripped off. But hey, you can't have everything, you know?
If you're looking to get some high end golds, I'm afraid that it has always been a game of chance. I cleared two of the elite Slaver's Dungeon. What did I get after killing Justicar Thommis? A R13 sai! The mods were bad, the skin was a common collector/crafter variety, and the requirement was at its highest.
And this was in an elite dungeon. So, it's a game of chance. And like all games of chance, you're probably going to get ripped off. But hey, you can't have everything, you know?
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Okay this is SERIOUSLY ridiculous. GW:EN has VERY little gold drops, and only chance i've ever gotten any was solo and that was even rare.
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Yeah, they're called rares. You are acting as if 7 golds in 4 hours is bad, I'd hate to see what you would call good, and yet still rare. Consequently, I have much less luck than that, and I think the droprate's fine.
Spazzer
Your EOTN drops suck because you're playing Guild Wars in Normal Mode.
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and only chance i've ever gotten any was solo and that was even rare.
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Gigashadow
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Your EOTN drops suck because you're playing Guild Wars in Normal Mode.
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wilebill
1. I think gold drops are lower in EOTN because of reputation grind, plus the more you run a map, the lower the drops. Don't have any proof of the latter, just seems that way to me. Even so, I get all the plat I need so I'm not complaining.
2. I notice something similar in WoW. When you first start a map, there is a "welcome wagon" effect. Lots of drops, but the drop rate and quality fades with time.
3. There are superstitious methods for improving your drops, not based on any official info from ANet.
2. I notice something similar in WoW. When you first start a map, there is a "welcome wagon" effect. Lots of drops, but the drop rate and quality fades with time.
3. There are superstitious methods for improving your drops, not based on any official info from ANet.
Spazzer
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Longasc
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I disagree. Most golds go straight to the merchent anyways. My experence is they don't drop enough and when they do they tend to be worthless.
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They must be r9, perfect. Try selling r10 and the price goes so low that it is not worth standing in Kamadan or elsewhere. There are also very few items that still go for higher prices.
There was a general downtrend, as most items are now easier to acquire. Dwarven Axes can be crafted. Sephis Swords drop a lot in Duncan's Dungeon. Everything is so much cheaper than a year ago.
But in general I think enough golds drop in GW:EN and also in the Sulfurous Wastes. Besides the fact that most are merchantware,
I am more concerned about the GW:EN dungeons: They drop tons of items, more than 1 player with an almost empty inventory can hold. But little quality indeed, not many golds and purples.
So basically, more loot than one can carry. I would prefer higher quality drops but less drops in the dungeons. Then I would not have to start salvaging in level 2 or throwing away stuff in every goddamn dungeon, this really angers me all the time. What a waste.
BTW: Given the loot quality in normal mode, hard mode should make more than up for our concerns.
A11Eur0
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It does. What game are you playing?
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It's like a 10:1 rate difference.
Bouldershoulder
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GW:EN is useless to me because the damn usage of new graphics engines that make me driver error and therefore need to find some extra cash which i don't have to upgrade.....
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2.) The golds have not gone anywhere, drop rates still remain constant, which by all means is random at best. I'm pretty sure there wasn't some top secret drop rates nerf, and I just scored 3 greens in a span of 28 minutes with 7 henchmen a couple days ago, so I don't see how it's possible.
SOLUTION: get some cash and be happy
I understand what you originally thought, but just because you're having the Driver Problems and you're a bit unlucky with the golds, doesn't mean you have to complain on here.
Heck, why don't you put a suggestion in Sardelac, but, then again, Sardelac is already crazy enough.
Didn't mean to sound so harsh.
Bouldershoulder
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Yup. Most gold drops are just not worth selling anymore.
They must be r9, perfect. Try selling r10 and the price goes so low that it is not worth standing in Kamadan or elsewhere. There are also very few items that still go for higher prices. There was a general downtrend, as most items are now easier to acquire. Dwarven Axes can be crafted. Sephis Swords drop a lot in Duncan's Dungeon. Everything is so much cheaper than a year ago. But in general I think enough golds drop in GW:EN and also in the Sulfurous Wastes. Besides the fact that most are merchantware, I am more concerned about the GW:EN dungeons: They drop tons of items, more than 1 player with an almost empty inventory can hold. But little quality indeed, not many golds and purples. So basically, more loot than one can carry. I would prefer higher quality drops but less drops in the dungeons. Then I would not have to start salvaging in level 2 or throwing away stuff in every goddamn dungeon, this really angers me all the time. What a waste. BTW: Given the loot quality in normal mode, hard mode should make more than up for our concerns. |
cebalrai
Just got 4 golds in 5 chests this morning. I also chest farm in sulfurous have no problem at all getting golds.
It's not a "bug". You just had a run of bad luck. I have expert treasure hunter on my mesmer with 1500+ chests opened. Most were in sulfurous and Mirror of Lyss, about 1/3 in HM. There were times that I thought, "man I'm getting enough grapes to work for Welches" and times when I couldn't believe how many golds with +30 sword grips and were raining down on me. Your luck will turn around.
It's not a "bug". You just had a run of bad luck. I have expert treasure hunter on my mesmer with 1500+ chests opened. Most were in sulfurous and Mirror of Lyss, about 1/3 in HM. There were times that I thought, "man I'm getting enough grapes to work for Welches" and times when I couldn't believe how many golds with +30 sword grips and were raining down on me. Your luck will turn around.
Cobalt
Drops are rare in GW EoN period, however gold and purple are even more rare because they are supposed to be found in chests instead, for which you pay, er gamble 1.5k for a pick to get.
I actually find both sad and disturbing that Anet ever made it so that chests require keys or lock picks to get. In essence all they are really doing is deliberately preying upon peoples weakness to gamble because that is exactly what it is every time you buy a lock pick. In fact one of the first quests you get one of the rewards is a lock pick, thus Anet it is virtually like a drug dealer giving out free samples to get as many hooked on the gamble as possible as soon as possible.
Gambling is an severe addition for a whole lot of people; I would bet there are those that buy gold for real cash just to buy lock picks over and over for the thrill of the gamble.
I actually find both sad and disturbing that Anet ever made it so that chests require keys or lock picks to get. In essence all they are really doing is deliberately preying upon peoples weakness to gamble because that is exactly what it is every time you buy a lock pick. In fact one of the first quests you get one of the rewards is a lock pick, thus Anet it is virtually like a drug dealer giving out free samples to get as many hooked on the gamble as possible as soon as possible.
Gambling is an severe addition for a whole lot of people; I would bet there are those that buy gold for real cash just to buy lock picks over and over for the thrill of the gamble.
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stretchs
I think what many of the people here are most agitated about is the fact that GW:EN was supposed to be a "high end" area that extended your experience beyond lvl 20. With that, as well as the fact that 1.5k lockpicks are being used for chests, people's expectations were considerably higher for this releases drops. The gold drops I have gotten in gwen, which have been soso in quantity have been horrid in quality, the chest drops, while they tended to be rarer skinned items, but with q13 typically making them completely useless in the selling dept. I tend to farm for golds solo, with a monk, yes i know very original, i can do a Fahranur run and vary from 1 - 9 golds in 30 mins. And yes as many people have said in this thread and hundreds others, you go through areas multiple times without doing other things, your drop rate decreases. Be it mathematical, flagged or whatever, it is just factual that when you repeat an area your drop rate goes down. I can do my monk farm 5-10 times and the earlier runs will always be better than my latter.
In the end, most of the frustration comes from what we "expected/assumed" would drop in GW:EN. Our expectations were raised because of anet's claims of it being higher end, and using lockpicks. We assumed drops would be more like hardmode, instead the drops/chests tend to be more like lower areas on other continents. I think the chest/drop rate for golds tends to be more like middle of the run areas on each continent.
In the end, most of the frustration comes from what we "expected/assumed" would drop in GW:EN. Our expectations were raised because of anet's claims of it being higher end, and using lockpicks. We assumed drops would be more like hardmode, instead the drops/chests tend to be more like lower areas on other continents. I think the chest/drop rate for golds tends to be more like middle of the run areas on each continent.
Etta
I'm not complaining about the drop rate of gold items. I got one or two drop here and there by playing as normal. The only thing that bugged me is that, 80% of my gold drops are hammers. I mean what the hell is this, hammer time?
Ok some of them came with 15^50 or +5 ng, which is nice. Ah better than nothing I guess.
Ok some of them came with 15^50 or +5 ng, which is nice. Ah better than nothing I guess.
ValaOfTheFens
It happens to the best of us. Just switch to farming a different area for a while. I farmed The Sulfurous Wastes for a few days and my gold drops went to nothing but when I went to Mirror of Lyss it was gold city. 
Just make up a rotation of spots.
Just make up a rotation of spots.
cebalrai
All of this is 100% speculation. People are taking their own subjective experience as truth, when it's absolutely not.
I can counter your experiences with my own. I've chest farmed in the same area for hours on end and had plenty of golds all the way through. I've had plenty of experiences where I was getting grapes at first, then after opening a zillion chests for an hour I started getting showered with golds from those very same chests (in that very same area).
So some people have one experience with chests while other people have the opposite. What does that mean? It means that chests are just random, capricious things. It's chaos.
I can counter your experiences with my own. I've chest farmed in the same area for hours on end and had plenty of golds all the way through. I've had plenty of experiences where I was getting grapes at first, then after opening a zillion chests for an hour I started getting showered with golds from those very same chests (in that very same area).
So some people have one experience with chests while other people have the opposite. What does that mean? It means that chests are just random, capricious things. It's chaos.
cebalrai
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Okay this is SERIOUSLY ridiculous. GW:EN has VERY little gold drops, and only chance i've ever gotten any was solo and that was even rare. More ridiculous is that in hard mode in an area i like to mess around and clear out with a friend drops absolutely no golds, the entire area in this sulfurous waste area, drops NOTHING... Whites and blues.. wow soooo love it. I mean what happened to all the gods that were dropping when hard mode was introduced/even after the revamping of drop rates... Its ridiculous and ruins the fun for the farmers because seriously their is NO other way to make money other than farming or exploiting other peoples own cash which they barely have any by charging them for something (which is what I have to do so i canhave some money, charge others for services) instead of making my own money by being able to farm. Screw all the gold sellers, let people who buy gold be punished not the people trying to make some money or get what they want in the game and can't earn otherwise without being able to farm. GW:EN is useless to me because the damn usage of new graphics engines that make me driver error and therefore need to find some extra cash which i don't have to upgrade.....
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zwei2stein
IMO, anet did make rare drops rarer for purporse:
a) test to compare it effect on economy (compared to way too many gold and good drops in elona)
b) less chance for golds in explorable chests -> people go for dungeon chests and dungeon boss chests, yay for people actually having motivation to play dungeons.
c) rare stuff being less common -> it takes longer time to get it -> peopel spend more time trying to grind it -> ? -> profit
a) test to compare it effect on economy (compared to way too many gold and good drops in elona)
b) less chance for golds in explorable chests -> people go for dungeon chests and dungeon boss chests, yay for people actually having motivation to play dungeons.
c) rare stuff being less common -> it takes longer time to get it -> peopel spend more time trying to grind it -> ? -> profit
Redfeather1975
I got more gold drops before reaching Kryta with my first character in Prophecies than what I've gotten so far in EotN.
Angel Killuminati
Every chest I've opened in GW:EN has produced a crappy purple item. Merchant food.
This was never the case in other Guild Wars versions. You get the occasional purple, but these locked chests in GW:EN are spouting shit, absolute shit. Not one gold since I played.
This was never the case in other Guild Wars versions. You get the occasional purple, but these locked chests in GW:EN are spouting shit, absolute shit. Not one gold since I played.
HawkofStorms
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1. I think gold drops are lower in EOTN because of reputation grind, plus the more you run a map, the lower the drops. Don't have any proof of the latter, just seems that way to me. Even so, I get all the plat I need so I'm not complaining.
2. I notice something similar in WoW. When you first start a map, there is a "welcome wagon" effect. Lots of drops, but the drop rate and quality fades with time. |