Up until a few months back whenever I was using a vamp weapon I would switch away from it when not in battle. But then for a reason I don't quite remember, I realised that the hero and/or hench monks can quite easily heal against the vamp damage when not in battle. So when playing with an NPC monk in PvE, I've stopped weapon switching unless there is an enemy that will take more damage from my elemental weapon.
If there is one human and one NPC monk I don't switch because the NPC will heal me. If I've only got human monks I ask them if they want me to switch or not.
When I'm monking I generally get the vamp users I encounter to switch by simply refusing to heal them when we aren't in battle.
So for those of you who use vamp weapons, when do you weapon switch away from the vamp ?
When do you switch off your vamp weapon ?
bilateralrope
lacasner
Never if I'm using it, but I use zealous 90% of the time. Im justt too lazy to alternate pressing F1 and F2, i suppose.
Havre Fras
I don't use vamp weapons anymore. I found it too much hasstle switching weapons all the time, not to mention if I went soloing i'd sometimes forget to switch and go AFK, only to come back dead.
But when I did, I switched weapons (when I remembered to).
But when I did, I switched weapons (when I remembered to).
X Cytherea X
in pvp, any time im not attacking
in pve i dont usually use vamp, but if i do i leave it on if im lazy
in pve i dont usually use vamp, but if i do i leave it on if im lazy
Esan
Instead of switching weapons, just use Mending.
Thorondor Port
In hoh I have about 12 shields to double click onto my weapon slots and 3 or 4 sets ready made on the weapon slots
So....changing isnt much of a problem...im used to changing every match
So....changing isnt much of a problem...im used to changing every match
Lotrfish
In a human party I'll switch between mobs. With H/H I will switch when I remember, but I don't try very hard to remember.
-Loki-
When necessary. The life drain isn't enough to worry me.
kazjun
I only weapon switch in pvp, I usually can't be bothered in pve.
HawkofStorms
I feel like it depends a lot on the class. Warriors I switch weapons all the time. Sins though where 90% of their damage is +xx armor ignoring damage, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
Zahr Dalsk
When using my assassin in PvP, I swap on the vampiric when I'm low on health in combat, otherwise I use zealous for energy, and when out of combat I don't hold anything.
Seef II
I got annoyed at switching out of combat in PvE so I went for sundering. I'll switch automatically after combat, still - hitting F1 has become a reflex.
-Loki-
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I swap on the vampiric when I'm low on health in combat
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and when out of combat I don't hold anything.
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Stormlord Alex
I don't switch in PvE.
Mhenlo's more than happy to spam heals on me ad nauseum.
Mhenlo's more than happy to spam heals on me ad nauseum.
Linksys
I used to use a vamp bow and still do sometimes. But usually I don't also because of the hassle of switching. Besides switching doesn't always work because I'm shooting arrows or doing something. Sometimes it's a while before I realize I still have the same bow armed because I'm into the battle.
HawkofStorms
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Shouldn't you be swapping out of vampiric when low on health, not to vampiric?
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Sir Seifus Halbred
I rarley use vampiric weapons. When i do however-i usually leave them on, especially if a monk is in the party. (sometimes i switch)
margretli
I will switch onto the vamp when I'm in battle, and will often forget to switch off. When the hero monk starts to heal me when not fighting, that's usually when I will switch off the weapon.
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by Esan
Instead of switching weapons, just use Mending.
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Government Flu
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However, mending is a poor, poor substitute to counter the negative effect of frenzy. For that, I recommend a cancel stance instead.
Anyway, I rarely use vampiric weapons because I don't think the +3 life steal is all that great.
thor hammerbane
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Originally Posted by Esan
Instead of switching weapons, just use Mending.
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Voltar
I switch out less and less these days with H&H, mostly because of that little pause you have to do before hitting the next skill. That little pause and the 2 seconds for the preparation are just long enough to get on my nerves.
I'm not sure that I consider vamps to have any real "healing" properties. I use them as a guaranteed +5 (or +3 for other weapons) damage per hit.
Now having an Orders Necro. That almost starts to feel like a heal.
I'm not sure that I consider vamps to have any real "healing" properties. I use them as a guaranteed +5 (or +3 for other weapons) damage per hit.
Now having an Orders Necro. That almost starts to feel like a heal.
Darkobra
I always switch out of battle. Sometimes I forget to switch back.
mr_groovy
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You know, mending is underpowered, but it isn't that bad. Just for the hell of it, I created another warrior a long time ago, got him from Ascalon to LA, and deleted him after he reached level 20 and R1 survivor. He used mending as one of his skills, but...I think the +3 regen gives a certain safety net for players. It'll take care of minor damage from most physical attacks (not counting special attacks, just regular swings) and some minor spells.
However, mending is a poor, poor substitute to counter the negative effect of frenzy. For that, I recommend a cancel stance instead. Anyway, I rarely use vampiric weapons because I don't think the +3 life steal is all that great. |
55 N/mo + hb + mending == gg
55 Mo/d + Mystic Regen == No need for silly healing prayers
quickmonty
I try to remember to switch out when battle is over. Saves energy for the monk.
Mending: Used to do a lot of solo farming with my warrior. Mending is very useful for a lot of solo farming builds, and it will counter the vamp degen if you forget to switch.
Mending: Used to do a lot of solo farming with my warrior. Mending is very useful for a lot of solo farming builds, and it will counter the vamp degen if you forget to switch.
SotiCoto
Can't.... remove..... Zealous.... Daggers!
Lyssa.... will.... eat.... me....
[Translation: My old Zealous Steel Daggers of Fortitude have taken a back-seat to Pywatt's Talons since I got the latter.... and Shiro's Blades have sat in slot 4, almost totally unused, since time immemorial. They only ever get used for FFFing (self-sac).]
Lyssa.... will.... eat.... me....
[Translation: My old Zealous Steel Daggers of Fortitude have taken a back-seat to Pywatt's Talons since I got the latter.... and Shiro's Blades have sat in slot 4, almost totally unused, since time immemorial. They only ever get used for FFFing (self-sac).]
Sha Noran
I just go W/Mo for Healing Breeze and Mending! ^____________^
Longasc
I do not use vampiric weapons. Either I have a zealous weapon (axes) or use weapons with elemental upgrades.
It is better to use a vampiric sword than a furious sword from a dps point of view, but i prefer zealous axes or sundering axes and sundering hammers when i need the weapon do physical damage. I also prefer zealous bows for barrage. And in pvp i use crippling or poisonous bowstrings.
I have vampiric weapons, but I just do not like them. I only switch between various elemental damage types and my non-vampiric physical weapon.
It is better to use a vampiric sword than a furious sword from a dps point of view, but i prefer zealous axes or sundering axes and sundering hammers when i need the weapon do physical damage. I also prefer zealous bows for barrage. And in pvp i use crippling or poisonous bowstrings.
I have vampiric weapons, but I just do not like them. I only switch between various elemental damage types and my non-vampiric physical weapon.
Cobalt
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I pray to the nine moons of nectar that this was sarcasm.
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Witchblade
+1 on "depends of the class"
ie: as a ranger i only switch for specific builds or when i gotta afk
please, tell me it's irony 
edit: owned by Colbalt & Thor ^^ (gotta agree with that but i pictured the raw idea )
ie: as a ranger i only switch for specific builds or when i gotta afk
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Originally Posted by Esan
Instead of switching weapons, just use Mending.
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edit: owned by Colbalt & Thor ^^ (gotta agree with that but i pictured the raw idea
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MisterB
I switch off my vamp weapon the instant I stop attacking on my warrior. I seldom use my vamp bow, except for Barrage, Volley, Needling, or Dual/Triple Shot, and almost never use my vamp spear. I just got in the habit of weapon swapping all the time. The swap delay is annoying, sometimes. I guess it may be a client/server issue, but it still bugs me waiting that split second.
Mortal Amongst Mere Gods
Way back in the days of olde (Roughly 4 months ago...), I used a vampiric sword. I found the life stealing more fun than useful, but the constant switching--with enough of it--can get very irritating. Lucky me, I found a 20/18 sword hilt, so I use that. Ain't 20/20, but it's good enough. I also used to use vamp on my paragon. That was waaay back in the day. 'Bout around 8 months ago, I used a vamp spear, got annoyed by it.
As for Mending, it can be excellent protection against regular hits (Especially on a tank [Mending+Frenzy, anyone?].), but it's not worth it to me to give up an energy regen, especially on a sin, ranger, para, or war.
As for Mending, it can be excellent protection against regular hits (Especially on a tank [Mending+Frenzy, anyone?].), but it's not worth it to me to give up an energy regen, especially on a sin, ranger, para, or war.
Diddy bow
When mending runs out but wait ... thats the great thing about mending it never runs out =D.
freaky naughty
Pretty simple just switch if it doesn't look like you'l be fighting mobs for a while or if you're taking a break from the pwnage. The vampiric only helps you while fighting