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MrFinklestein

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

SubZero [SpaZ]

D/Rt

01 Oct 2007 at 05:49 - 1

I have been using the Echo Nuking build and I can't say I like it much. I need a fire build that works well throughout the game. Please give me some help. I've been through the stickies and nothing is popping out at me. I need the build for general PvE.

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

01 Oct 2007 at 09:02 - 2

mind blast/immolate/rodgort's/glyph of lesser energy/fire attunement/meteor shower/glyph of sacrifice/rez chant.

pretty generic, you can drop gole for flame djinn's if you want.

unless you don't have nf, in which case you're pretty much boned out of actually being able to do decent damage.

MrFinklestein

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

SubZero [SpaZ]

D/Rt

01 Oct 2007 at 15:47 - 3

I've got all of the campaigns so thats not really an issue. I was thinking of doing this:

[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill][skill]Searing Heat[/skill][skill]Teinai's Heat[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Rodgort's Invocation is optional I might need to switch it out.

Any opinions on how that would do?

Skyros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

E/

01 Oct 2007 at 16:58 - 4

I would say just go SF/GG and its gg but i guess it doesnt in EVERY aspect of the game (ie Destroyer).

But Yea, SH is pretty awesome but it does cause scatter on enemies if your parties tank is pretty crappy (Devona....).

So id go Mind Blast + Rodgorts Invocation. Its damage is comparable if not exceeding the output of SF.

Hope that helps.

MrFinklestein

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

SubZero [SpaZ]

D/Rt

01 Oct 2007 at 17:03 - 5

Are the rest of the skills in the Mind blast+ Rodgort's invocation build optional?
And for future reference what is GG?

Karomi Saoshi

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Mo/

01 Oct 2007 at 17:27 - 6

I use: [skill]mind blast[/skill] [skill]meteor shower[/skill][skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]fireball[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill]*optional*[skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill] , [skill]death pact signet[/skill],[skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill] , or Sunspear Rebirth.

Usually run 12+1+1 in Fire and 12+1 in Energy Storage. The optional can be a little bit splashed into earth magic for...[skill]ward against melee[/skill] or [skill]ward against elements[/skill], but if you have Gw:En, i like pve norn skill "Finish Him!".

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

02 Oct 2007 at 01:06 - 7

lol

My own basic sf build. This build works just about anywhere in the game......except noob island on NM but there you just wanna use dual attune or just a wand<_<

[skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]mark of Rodgort[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Aura Of Restoration[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

02 Oct 2007 at 16:00 - 8

[skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]liquid flame[/skill][skill]glowing gaze[/skill][skill]glyph of elemental power[/skill][skill]elemental attunement[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]aura of restoration[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

have fun

dr_ishmael

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

02 Oct 2007 at 17:23 - 9

I've never used Meteor Shower... wow, you get three knockdowns over 10 seconds, the enemies scatter, and you either put up with a 60 second recharge or you use up a couple more slots and have to manage Echo/Glyphs to get around that. Blech.

I used a dual-attunement build similar to tenshi_strife's for a long time, but then I discovered the beauty of Mind Blast. This is similar to Karomi's above, but without MS. And yes, I run without a res, but only because I very, very rarely have a party wipe.

[skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Flame Burst[/skill][skill]Liquid Flame[/skill][skill]Smoldering Embers[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]

The key is to spam Mind Blast every other cast and not use Rodgort's too much, and you shouldn't have any problems at all maintaining energy. The only time I have to watch my energy is when I'm fighting other elementalists, since the "cheating" AI almost always has more energy than me. Skills 2-5 are optional, but I found those to work the best for me.

MrFinklestein

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

SubZero [SpaZ]

D/Rt

12 Oct 2007 at 03:28 - 10

I capped [skill]Mind Blast[/skill] and it pwns with [skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill]. I rarely run out of energy now, and no stupid echoing.

I'm running this:
[skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Liquid Flame[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Glyph of Elemental Power[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

12 Oct 2007 at 06:49 - 11

drop m shower and fireball/liquid for a heat and a ward or heal party or aegis or something.

Steps_Descending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

IN my pocket plane. Obviously!

Little Tom's Pocket Plane [THom]

Me/Mo

12 Oct 2007 at 18:35 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr_ishmael

I've never used Meteor Shower... the enemies scatter, and you either put up with a 60 second recharge or you use up a couple more slots and have to manage Echo/Glyphs to get around that. Blech. I'll stop you right now by saying the mobs don't scatter unless you add more aoe, in wich case MS can actually KD them to give you 2 more sec of aoe dmg. And the Echo-MS nuker has had this problem since the begining. its an old-school build, they added more flexible skills for a reason.

About the 60 cd (and 6 sec cast time) : a build I really like is Assassin's promise + met. Shower + some other hight-cooldown skills. To explain, Assassin Promise gives you 5-17 sec to kill a foe and if you manage to do it all your skill are recharged (accept the rez sig), I sugest Glyph of sacrifice (next spell instant cast but add a 30 sec cooldown) to make up for the 6 sec cast time. Intensity and The sin-luxon skill can be kept up forever since their cd doesn't matter.

-d.gnaruz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Magnificent Dutch [MD]

E/A

13 Oct 2007 at 20:24 - 13

I always use this build:
Shadow Arts:2
Fire magic: 12+3+1
Energy Storage: 12+3
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill][skill]Teinai's Heat[/skill][skill]Breath of fire[/skill][skill]Liquid flame[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor[/skill][skill]Viper's Defense[/skill]

Works really good for me!
I have been nuking with this build since NF's release!
([skill]Immolate[/skill]and[skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill]are only to spam while the other skills are recharging ^-^)

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

14 Oct 2007 at 01:01 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by -d.gnaruz

I always use this build:
Shadow Arts:2
Fire magic: 12+3+1
Energy Storage: 12+3
[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill][skill]Teinai's Heat[/skill][skill]Breath of fire[/skill][skill]Liquid flame[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor[/skill][skill]Viper's Defense[/skill]

Works really good for me!
I have been nuking with this build since NF's release!
([skill]Immolate[/skill]and[skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill]are only to spam while the other skills are recharging ^-^) this is a lot like i use but only one thing id pull meteor for a snare

MrFinklestein

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

SubZero [SpaZ]

D/Rt

14 Oct 2007 at 05:19 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

drop m shower and fireball/liquid for a heat and a ward or heal party or aegis or something. I'm doing Fire Magic-12+1+1 and Energy Storage-12+1.
How much earth would I need for a ward to be useful and which ward would you recommend?

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

14 Oct 2007 at 06:43 - 16

12 +w/e fire 10+ w/e estorage 8+w/e earth. and i would go for either melee or elements. or both. i usually run 4 Rodgorts when i play my ele, all with different utility skills (malestorm on one, wards on others, heal party on one, it works pretty well)

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

14 Oct 2007 at 06:45 - 17

How can you go wrong with Fire? I mean really.

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

14 Oct 2007 at 08:50 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omniclasm

How can you go wrong with Fire? I mean really. I know, it seems like one of them things that's... well... impossible to do (much like sucking at playing Para)... but... well... people do it anyway.
So many Firestorms, Double Dragons, total lacks of Fire Attunements, then a bunch of echo-Showers and Sup E-Storages, and all the other silly crap... Makes you cry for humanity a little.

PuGs ftw?

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

16 Oct 2007 at 19:54 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

I know, it seems like one of them things that's... well... impossible to do (much like sucking at playing Para)... but... well... people do it anyway.
So many Firestorms, Double Dragons, total lacks of Fire Attunements, then a bunch of echo-Showers and Sup E-Storages, and all the other silly crap... Makes you cry for humanity a little.

PuGs ftw?

I just dont think i can cry for humanity any more with what I see people use. If I am crying it's cause it's so funny now a days.

IceQ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Pretoria, South Africa

Seraphim Guardians

E/

30 Oct 2007 at 10:34 - 20

I use this build:
Fire magic: 12+3+1
Energy Storage: 12+3
[skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill][skill]Savannah Heat[/skill][skill]Liquid flame[/skill][skill]Breath of fire[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor shower[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]

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Weapon is Koosun's Fire Staff,
Armor Full Radiant with SV, SFM, SES, Atunements

I got my 3 Prot Titles with this build so...

(Fire Isles just add [skill]Winter[/skill])

I have a good tank that pulls well so just [skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill],[skill]Savannah Heat[/skill],[skill]Liquid flame[/skill]... not alot left alive after that...

Since he also uses a fire weapon mark is pretty effective (cept when there are anti hex casters. Then you just spam [skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill])

[skill]Breath of fire[/skill] & [skill]Meteor shower[/skill], are usefull, but not required, so play around here.

For capping I use this build
[skill]Signet of Capture[/skill][skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill][skill]Savannah Heat[/skill][skill]Liquid flame[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor shower[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill]

Template: [ OgBCoMzzAwXQWba/ixKwAXA ]

This build really shines when I drag a hero with:
Acolite Sauske (aka AS):
Earth magic: 12+3+1
Energy Storage: 12+3
[skill]Unsteady Ground[/skill][skill]Churning Earth[/skill][skill]Ash Blast[/skill][skill]Earth Attunement[/skill]

Weapon is Adepts Earth Staff of Enchantment
Armor Full Radiant with MV, SEM, SES, Atunements

This is more or less the chain:
Tank Pulls, [skill]Unsteady Ground[/skill](AS) - [skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill](me), [skill]Churning Earth[/skill](AS) - [skill]Savannah Heat[/skill](me), [skill]Liquid flame[/skill]... etc..

This is more or less the chain with a Boss group:
Tank Pulls, [skill]Unsteady Ground[/skill](AS) - [skill]Mark of Rodgort[/skill](me), [skill]Churning Earth[/skill](AS) - [skill]Savannah Heat[/skill](me), [skill]Meteor shower[/skill]... etc..

Vanquished a few areas with this combo, so works rather well.

I am playing around with an earth build for destroyers since burning is useless against them...

HTH

PS. I have 97 Energy. Even if the Me's remove [skill]Fire Attunement[/skill] I still don't run out of energy...

XiaoTheBlade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Southern England

Reign Of Shadows

P/W

30 Oct 2007 at 12:09 - 21

Thats what I like about savannah heat, it doesn't matter if your attunement gets stripped cause its 5e.

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

30 Oct 2007 at 12:44 - 22

Mind Blast gives practically infinite energy.

I vote for Mind Blast.

Simath

haha you're dumb

Join Date: Jul 2005

Moscow

30 Oct 2007 at 14:45 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

mind blast/immolate/rodgort's/glyph of lesser energy/fire attunement/meteor shower/glyph of sacrifice/rez chant. Agreed. Take the robots advice.

Ken34

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

NJ

The Maella Abbey[Wii]

W/Mo

30 Oct 2007 at 21:51 - 24

what about the people without nightfall and only proph and factions?

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

30 Oct 2007 at 22:21 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken34

what about the people without nightfall and only proph and factions? [skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill][skill]Meteor Shower[/skill][skill]Teinai's Heat[/skill][skill]Breath of Fire[/skill][skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill]"Finish Him!"

How useful is Air of Superiority for a fire build? Does the HSR occur frequently enough to warrant using it?

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

31 Oct 2007 at 04:29 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken34

what about the people without nightfall and only proph and factions? they use elemental attunement. no other option. and dont even try to say AP + Mshower is a decent build.

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

31 Oct 2007 at 11:48 - 27

People without Nightfall are either stuck Dual-Attuning with Rodgort's Invocation....

.... or PBAoE-spamming (with Assassin Shadow-Steps for easy retreat).

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

31 Oct 2007 at 17:25 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

they use elemental attunement. no other option. and dont even try to say AP + Mshower is a decent build. It's not terrible, especially with double heats, it's just a little too prone to getting completely screwed over IMO.

Another vote for mind blasters for me, though. Infinite energy for all the pretty utility I could ever want is nice.