UK PC Gamer magazine - golden-ticket style mini giveaway

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta
The mag itself is so-so as well, there's 1/4 of a page for the mini pet details and 2 pages GW:EN review, it's got 82%, the reviewer seem to like it. If anyone have the magazine, check out his necro skill bar. lol
[skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Vile Touch[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill][skill]Signet of Capture[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Lawlz.
Fail @ Build

Not only that, I notice a few other things:
#1. His choice of herohench and their skills. I see him flitting around with Healing Breeze on him a lot... He brings what can only be described as an entirely random assortment of herohench. At least he wasn't stupid enough to bring less than two monks.
#2. He screenshots twice in a row for the MAIN screenie on the page... giving us a lovely view of where the last screenshot was saved on his hard drive. Lawlz.
#3. He lurves being in Melee range..... with a N/E.... Waitwut?!
#4. His weapons. Slot 1 is a Cesta... on its own. Slot 2 is the same Cesta with a basic Truncheon on top. Heheh...
#5. In not one of the screenshots is he actually doing any visible damage... though plenty is being done TO him.



[ Incidentally... WHERE is the 1/4 page for the mini pet details? I can't find it. ]

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
[skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Vile Touch[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill][skill]Signet of Capture[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Lawlz.
Fail @ Build
WOW! Gotta load that up right this minute /sarcasm off.

LordEzekiel

LordEzekiel

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahlindra
They've made the explanation on the EU GW homesite a lot clearer now.... or was it like that before? Someone remember?
I remember:up until recently all minipet promo info was on http://eu.guildwars.com/events/in_ga...nts/mini_promo
maybe in my looking at at it everyday to check if the release date for PCGamer mag had changed I missed the Disclaimer on the bottom of the page. I really don't remember that being there before....

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kahlindra
WOW! Gotta load that up right this minute /sarcasm off.
I'm surprised he even managed to cap that Elite if he was using anything like as bad a bar in Nightfall.
But then Nightfall was mostly easy enough that sans-build would work with a hench party....

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Well occasionally a company will do something really really stupid and effectivly shoot themselves in the foot "arenanet are your ears burning I'm talking about you"

Give an automatic Destroyer to Americans and not to the rest of the world = bad move number 1


Magazines in some countries dont automatically get a pet at all = Bad move number 2

Not doing well so far are you ?

Some countries dont even have the chance of a pet as no magazine has the offer "Australia I believe" Batting 100 so far arn't you well minus 100 anyway.

Ignore suggestions made several times to synchronise date codes become active so all players worldwide can activate pets on the same day, another bad move.

I assume you want a ready made fan base for GW2 or am I mistaken ?

Whoever is ultimatly responsible the blame will fall mostly on arenanet and secondary flak will hit some PC magazine sales.

Suggest some form of damage limitation announcement or many will assume not only do you not think you have made the mistake but you couldn't care less if you did.

Yours angry hurt and confused

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordEzekiel
I remember:up until recently all minipet promo info was on http://eu.guildwars.com/events/in_ga...nts/mini_promo
maybe in my looking at at it everyday to check if the release date for PCGamer mag had changed I missed the Disclaimer on the bottom of the page. I really don't remember that being there before....
Thought so.
I just have a sad mental image of some 13year old kid pre-Disclaimer spending all their allowance on PC Gamers (as the cynical little blurb inside encourages you to do).

Ah well. Me and him bought just one copy (only one in our small village shop) and got nothing, but with the odds I'm not surprised. Just a shame the content is so shoddy- crap review over two pages... hmm.

Jhadur

Jhadur

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

Just been round 6 different shops and on every single copy the box had been tampered with so no chance of a mini for me

Steep

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

DOE (Dragons of Eisengard)

W/E

Brought two, got nothing...

luckily enough the was a review on TF2, portal and episode 2. but other then that just a 2 page review on GWEN, and a few demos. (Sam and Max ftw )

Other then that.. not really worth it in my opinion.

The Goldenwolf

The Goldenwolf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom, Cheshire

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

Mo/Me

Bought the mag today. Got a Mini Grawl. I was hoping for higher but meh, it's better than nothing Nice atricle about building a gaming pc too

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by kirby2096
Yup, it's maddening to imagine someone who doesn't play Guild Wars getting a golden ticket and have it tossed into a corner upon a stack of other pc gamer mags, or simply thrown away.
And it's hillarious that people see it as a problem. It's a minipet in a video game.

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Goldenwolf
Bought the mag today. Got a Mini Grawl.
Well done! That's 3 out of the 1000......maybe if we keep track of how few of these minipets are actually getting to GW players, the companies will understand why we aren't happy with the way they did this?

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

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After looking at the official page again last night, it dawned on my that there are only 1000 mini-pets in total, not 1000 per magazine.

So that is 1000 tickets distributed between 9 different gaming magazine titles in seven different countries.

My original post of the odds of getting one of these is wayyyyy off.

Assuming that each magazine has a similar circulation figures to PC Gamer, then you have approximately a 1 in 500 chance of getting a golden ticket and a 1 in 50,000 chance of that ticket being a Vizu.

Also assuming an even distribution, there might be one magazine in your country that has a Vizu code (10 codes distributed between 9 countries). That magazine might just possibly be bought by a Guild Wars player, but more likely it will be bought by someone with no interest in Guild Wars whatsoever.

The more I look at this promotion, the worse it looks.

Tutis Evito

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

England,UK

Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM]

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Me and 8 friends all bought a copy, we made sure the boxes all looked 'untampered' and nothing, nada. zlich ... hmmm.....

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

It's a stupid promotion, It's a bad promotion, it's an awful promotion.

In fact it fails to be a promotion at all

"Promotion is one of the four aspects of marketing. The other three parts of the marketing mix are product management, pricing, and distribution. Promotion involves disseminating information about a product, product line, brand, or company. "

The above definition assumes a positive result is intended, I feel this one is very very negative.

Someone somewhere "maybe still in employment" thought it a great idea.

Spend £6 get a minipet ok
Spend £6 get a random minipet that might be really really cool better
Spend £6 for a chance "and not a good one" that you get the above is not ok, logically it will only appeal to those who already buy the magazine and play GW.
That doesn't seem likely to put up the circulation of the magazine at all so what do they get out of it.

Of course that's just my opinion

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

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Well I feel Like a sad sucka now, my own fault as I never should of given in. Bought the PC Gamer just for a mini pet and in return got a kick in the teeth - no mini . Not going to bother with the PC Zone mag in November I have learnt my lesson.

Already seeing people with then in Kamadan - WTS Mini Shiroken 850 ectos!

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
[skill]Well of Blood[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Vile Touch[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill][skill]Mind Blast[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill][skill]Signet of Capture[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]
They had similar builds like this in the US PC Gamer.
Here is a Vikk build:

[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill][skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Extinguish[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill]

No rez,

Back to topic,
UK PC Gamer comes to North America and I was thinking of tracking one down but if you guys in Europe are not getting the codes then the of getting one here is slim, but I will still try my luck.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

I'm gonna check today since they say it would appear in the PC Gameplay magazine in the Netherlands..

Maybe i'll get lucky

edit:

So I bought the #138 of PC Gameplay and i dont see anything about that in the magazine.. but it says on the website of guildwars that the number of this magazine also is included in the promo?

I know that for the #137 there was a promo and a giveaway of 1000 minipets.. but this number?

*confused*

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
No rez,
I never give anyone but the Rits a res in PvE anymore because I cruise in Hard Mode. The only res worth using there is Death Pact signet (to protect DP). Res shrines are everywhere.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

and here was me thinking the better idea would be to give everyone a destroyer...but hey I found a vizu in my wonka bar =P /sarcasam

Thank god I wanted PC gamer anyway and hey doesn't PC zone run the same promotion in a few weeks/days?

william1975

william1975

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Dragons of Torment (DOA)

Me/

This sucks, really really badly sucks. Why couldnt they just had a send in and entry for a chance to win promotion. I hate these promotions, you have a minimal chance of getting anything. No matter what i have collected over the years you always seemed to get screwwed some way by the cmpany giving out special rewards. IT wasa case of Promotion not in your area, Promotion not in your country, promotion for special persons, or promotions where you get something by pure chance and meanwhile see someone with no interest in the thing getting what you want and throwing it in the bin.

I remember playign heroclix a few years back when they suddenly decided to bring out a massive Galactus figure only available in the states, at Gen Con in the US, that made me miserable as being a collector primarily i wanted the piece and ended up paying afortune to get it. Then a few months doen the line they did the same thing again with Dark Phoenix. At this point I gave up and sold my collection.

everythign i collect goes this way, you end up beign unable to get pieces simply because you dont live in a certain place, dont have the money, or the offer is simply rediculous to get the things.

To be honest i wish this offer had never been introduced at all, I'd rather not get lured into buying a magazine i dont want and wouldnt buy just to find out i waste my hard earned cash on it for nothing

More Outrage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Yorkshire

GOO

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
They had similar builds like this in the US PC Gamer.
Here is a Vikk build:

[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Fire Storm[/skill][skill]Fireball[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Extinguish[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Heal Party[/skill][skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill]

No rez,

Back to topic,
UK PC Gamer comes to North America and I was thinking of tracking one down but if you guys in Europe are not getting the codes then the of getting one here is slim, but I will still try my luck.

This is the best laugh I have had in so many years. I can`t believe these skill bars have actually been tried and I`m thinking A-Net PR probably had a hand in it, they probably even thought they were good lol.

What the hell are they doing? OK. They are busy brushing up Ascalon and making it look really pretty for GW2. But seriously this is getting stupid, what kind of people are they employing to keep the this `old` game going? Looks like the support team got a promotion or something.

nembool

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

UK

SHS

If you bought PC Gamer and feel gipped because you didn't get a minipet, I recommended packaging up your copy of PC Gamer and sending it to the following address:-

Gaile Gray
c/o ArenaNet, Inc.
227 Bellevue Way NE #75
Bellevue, WA 98004

It's where I'll be sending my eight copies of PC Gamer #180 (yes, I have the self-control of a deranged magpie). Then go out and buy Games TM instead. It's cheaper, much better written and multi-platform as well.

P.S. Gaile, please recycle responsibly...

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Will Charlie and the chocolate factory be there as well? Oh oh, do I get an everlasting jobstopper? Please say yes!!!

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
After looking at the official page again last night, it dawned on my that there are only 1000 mini-pets in total, not 1000 per magazine.

So that is 1000 tickets distributed between 9 different gaming magazine titles in seven different countries.
No. Each magazine that gives out these codes probably got 1000 minipet cards.


Here are the numbers for the german Gamestar GW special (which did not have the GW2 lore part and was done rather poorly, the US edition was much better). The numbers are probably similar for other countries.


Vizu: 10
Zhed: 20
Shiroken: 20
Oni: 100
Naga: 100
Yeti: 100
Grawl: 650
Asura: The rest of the circulation - chance to exchange for a destroyer if you already have one.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Wonder if it has occurred to another games company that is they came out with a halfway decent online rpg some time around 2009 they could do really well in Europe.

Asia and America could have GW2 and we could have our own offering

Word of arena-nets treatment of some of its players must be spreading accross the websites and blogs of the internet by now.

I know the whold thing has got me down because I have gone from playing most days to not playing at all over the last couple of weeks.

Maybe I will try to play a little today and see if I can raise the same enthusiasm I once had.

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
No. Each magazine that gives out these codes probably got 1000 minipet cards.
<snip>
Asura: The rest of the circulation - chance to exchange for a destroyer if you already have one.
Are you sure about this?

The official page says there are 1000 mini pets in total.

http://eu.guildwars.com/events/in_ga...ts/mini_promo/

Also, the Asura offer is only in some magazines. The UK edition of PC Gamer did not have this. You either got a ticket for one of the rare ones, or you got nothing.

Btw - perhaps a mod could merge the three threads on this subject?

undeadgun

undeadgun

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

US

Its Rainning Fame Hallelujah[伞回伞], also as guild leader

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think just found out someone has won a Mini Vizu in this magazine thingy, bought from the guy(wont say how much i paid, but no 1500e+XX armbrace deal:P) so yea, here is the 4th....out what? 1000?

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by nembool
It's where I'll be sending my eight copies of PC Gamer #180 (yes, I have the self-control of a deranged magpie). Then go out and buy Games TM instead. It's cheaper, much better written and multi-platform as well.
Agreed. I can't believe I wasted £6 on such a short, poorly-written magazine, I will never buy PCGamer again. The review sucked, even if the reviewer (who left their IGN visible in the review) had a hilarious skillbar. They seemed overly concerned by the fact that you can't jump ingame - weird.

All the boxes had been tampered with in the shop, but I thought I'd give it a shot and purchase one anyways - thought perhaps they would have stuck the cards in or something. But no. No minipet for me. It really bothers me that people who don't play GW could get the codes and just chuck them.

Information on the promotion is pretty scant as well. The only mention of it is on the box:

"Guild Wars Giveaway. 1000 free pets! Is there one inside?* see page 47 for full terms and conditions"

Page 47 is just the general terms and conditions for any promotion. However, I think most people missed the asterisk, which can be followed up on the back of the box -

"Requires a Guild Wars account. No purchase necessary. Offer open to Uk Residents only, except anyone professionally related to this promotion. All entries must be received by 25/10/2007. Winners will be notified by post or telephone one week later. Entries should be sent to...."

So I guess I will be entering the contest this way...

Incidentally, it was a rather large bookstore (Borders) I went to which also has many imported magazines, including the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide from the States for £8. Picked up 2 copies of that for my boyfriend and myself and got 2 working codes for destroyer minipets, along with some nice artwork, so any peeps living near a Borders bookshop might want to try there.

Lukarnus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

England

R/

The thing with PC Gamer is:- they all play WoW and if it isn't WoW they don't like it (in MMO terms anyway). Every time something has happened in WoW they cover it with a lots of pages, but with GW you'll be lucky to get 2 pages written badly with no enthusiasm at all. I buy PCG regularly and normally find it enjoyable...this months isn't worth the £6 price and doesn't even have anything remotely interesting in it. A poor show all round. Oh, and i didn't get a pet either. I suppose there is always PC Zone in a couple of days, not that i'm holding my breath!

nembool

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

UK

SHS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Persephone
Incidentally, it was a rather large bookstore (Borders) I went to which also has many imported magazines, including the Ultimate Guild Wars Guide from the States for £8. Picked up 2 copies of that for my boyfriend and myself and got 2 working codes for destroyer minipets, along with some nice artwork, so any peeps living near a Borders bookshop might want to try there.
Went into my local Borders after reading this and found copies of the US Ultimate Guild Wars Guide that Miss Persephone mentioned, so I bought one of those and got my free Destroyer.

Everyone else should try this out too, but make sure you take what looks like a pristine copy of the magazine, just so you can guarantee the code hasn't been stolen by some reprobate with a camera phone.

Thanks for the tip!

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by nembool
Everyone else should try this out too, but make sure you take what looks like a pristine copy of the magazine, just so you can guarantee the code hasn't been stolen by some reprobate with a camera phone.
I also took a copy of this nice magazine at my local Borders. I took one of the copies in the middle of the pile, just in case people grab the codes.

Too bad for PC Gamer, and it'll probably be the same for PC Zone, it could have been a nice promo ...

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

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O.o I come back from a 2day holiday and now I read this nice welcome back *sarcasm*

Now I know for sure I ain't buying the mag....

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
Are you sure about this?

The official page says there are 1000 mini pets in total.
Yes, I am sure about this. These numbers are directly from the german special issue.

The official page was very vague, and the german one was different, too (it mentioned the asura).


I trust the word/numbers in the magazine more than the official webpage. But I cannot say I would swear each magazine got 1000, but would also not give my word that there are only 1000 in total.

Blame it on a webpage that tricked GW players into buying a magazine that makes more sense for starters (the rathre shabby German edition did not have any GW2 lore nor pvp advice, but a general class overview and crude armor pics taken from the wiki and the web) than for those who already play GW. The lottery style, worst in the benelux states, was not mentioned.

They seem to have given a contingent of cards to each magazine. The germans got a slew of Asura card, I do not know how high the circulation of this special issue was, but for sure more than 1000 copies.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukarnus
The thing with PC Gamer is:- they all play WoW and if it isn't WoW they don't like it (in MMO terms anyway).
This is not restricted to PC Gamer. OK, they might like it and care especially for the high numbers of WoW players, but this is highly unprofessional.

The German special issue of Gamestar was so lackluster, it does not compare to the WoW special. OK, they have one GW supporter in their team, but it seems she is not really the best pick to make a special issue.


I also want to point out that ANet's marketing department fails.

Yeah, fails. Just read the forums how people feel about the lottery and the very vague and misleading informations given on their webpage.

If they deal with partner magazines like that it is no wonder that they do not incite enthusiasm on their part.

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

The review of GW:EN started out enthusiastic, then there's a cynical little butt-in from the editor saying "yeah yeah, shut up, we know you like guild wars".

Gotta tone down all the Guildwars love in PC Gamer, definitely..... ahem.

bhavv

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

Good job I checked this thread before buying the mag.

I'm not buying it now.

Imagine people that dont play the game getting one of the 10 Vizu's and just throwing it in the bin. What a waste.

Whoever came up with this Idea is a lard assed lame fat plonker with no brain or education.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
Good job I checked this thread before buying the mag.

I'm not buying it now.

Imagine people that dont play the game getting one of the 10 Vizu's and just throwing it in the bin. What a waste.

Whoever came up with this Idea is a lard assed lame fat plonker with no brain or education.

Bit of an insult to all the Lard assed lame fat plonkers with no brain or education out there, I mean comparing them with the ideas man sry person who came up with the idea.

Saraphim

Saraphim

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Hand of Omega [WHO]

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I'm glad I had a friend who mailed me a copy of the US mag now. Can't be bothered buying a mag I don't read on the offchance I might get a chance at a mini.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

Think of yourselves as lucky, the only thing the Americans got were Asura, Destroyers, and the Grawl. you guys are complaining because you only get 10 vizus? that only makes like 20 in existence.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by freaky naughty
Think of yourselves as lucky, the only thing the Americans got were Asura, Destroyers, and the Grawl. you guys are complaining because you only get 10 vizus? that only makes like 20 in existence.
Did you have to bring this discussion here as well? Bloody hell, PLEASE stop the war between Europe and America about who has the better minipet deals. If you want to complain about that, go find one of the other thousand threads that were actually made for that discussion.

And if you even read any of this thread at all, you'd know that they are not complaining because they "only got 10 vizus". They are complaining about the completely crap lottery type promotion that was employed in this situation. America gets magazine offers where you are guaranteed to get a minipet, and you guys still complain, no matter how cool the minipets actually look, because you can't make any money off it, since they become too common. Wow, you guys sure have it tough.

Anyway, back on topic. I'm glad I didn't get one of my brother's friends to send a copy of the magazine over to me. Would have been a complete waste of $14 AUD (that's about how much 6 GBP is at the moment) plus shipping fees, plus the complete waste of paper from a magazine I wouldn't read the majority of. I think those countries that got a chance at the rarer minipets, and then everybody else got asura ones (at least, that's how I interpreted it) would have been the best way to go about it everywhere else. Especially since you can exchange the asura for a destroyer if you already had one.