Super Shutdown Sin
Fluffy Butt
Well the name almosts explains it. The Super Shutdown Sin (SSS ) prevents the enemy from casting almost any spell/skill.
What you need
A zealous bow, Chkkr's Flatbow does very nicely
16 Critical Strikes
12 Marksmanship
The skills
[card]Way of the Assassin[/card]Way of the Master[card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card]Critical Agility[card]Disrupting Accuracy[/card][card]Keen Arrow[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
If you want more interrupt, go with Called Shot, but I stick to damage with Focused Shot.
-The Zealous Bow will give +5 energy each hit with the other skills.
-Way of the Assassin (+37%) +Way of the Master (+35%) +Critical Eye (+16%+16% (32% from critical strikes)) = 100% Critical.
-Critical Agility you attack 33% faster, for fast interrupts and damage.
-Critical Defences is for reducing damage, every critical hit refreshes the enchantment.
-Disrupting Accuracy is for interrupting.
-Keen Shot is for lots of damage.
Edit: Subs - [card]Favorable Winds[/card]
EDIT: I tested my secondary build in PvP, PvE Comming soon!
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3413/pvpssstk5.jpg
Fighting Master of Hammers
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7808/pvpsss1fz2.jpg
Had some trouble.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9277/pvpsss3oi6.jpg
It was a very close match.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6748/pvpsss4sn6.jpg
Now it's Master of Axes turn.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4729/pvpsss7ki0.jpg
Wasn't as close, but it was annoying.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4186/pvpsss9vz9.jpg
Master of Interrupts was easy.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3319/pvpsss10zm6.jpg
Kill it with plenty of Health
(Lost Master of E-Denial pictures, but I killed him)
I lost to Master of Lightning, Master of Hexes and Master of Spirits (Vengeful weapon killed me) and unable to kill the Monk Masters.
This is my Dazed build.
Way of the Master[card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Broad Head Arrow[/card]Rapid Fire or Critical Agility [card]Keen Arrow[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card][card]Favorable Winds[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...dazed11qi5.jpg
Master of Hexes died fast.
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/446...dazed12gp5.jpg
Master of E-Denial died faster.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9...dazed13cp9.jpg
Master of Lightning went down fast, I did serious shutdown. I didn't take any damage!
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4...dazed16ff9.jpg
Master of Hammers was OK, but he went down.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3...dazed17no9.jpg
I killed him, took longer than I wanted.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...dazed23zx2.jpg
Master of Spirits was harder, with his vengeful weapon.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3...dazed25kh5.jpg
It was hard, but I killed him.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...dazed26as9.jpg
Master of interrupts was harder due that he has no spells.
I almost killed the master of Enchantments, she got lucky. I killed every master but the Monk Masters and the Master of Axes (I couldn't interrupt heal sig). The fight lasted against the remaining 3 forever, and ever. So I got bored left.
It works great, it works very well in PvP, still gotta test the second build it in PvE.
These pictures are off topic, but I have to show these, I love glitches!
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/11/5of4wtfzo1.jpg
I wonder if I could have 5/4 people in a AB group
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/590/hiparamr6.jpg
Well, at least he stayed.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6...verhereix9.jpg
I was doing my everyday farming, then this happened.
What you need
A zealous bow, Chkkr's Flatbow does very nicely
16 Critical Strikes
12 Marksmanship
The skills
[card]Way of the Assassin[/card]Way of the Master[card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card]Critical Agility[card]Disrupting Accuracy[/card][card]Keen Arrow[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
If you want more interrupt, go with Called Shot, but I stick to damage with Focused Shot.
-The Zealous Bow will give +5 energy each hit with the other skills.
-Way of the Assassin (+37%) +Way of the Master (+35%) +Critical Eye (+16%+16% (32% from critical strikes)) = 100% Critical.
-Critical Agility you attack 33% faster, for fast interrupts and damage.
-Critical Defences is for reducing damage, every critical hit refreshes the enchantment.
-Disrupting Accuracy is for interrupting.
-Keen Shot is for lots of damage.
Edit: Subs - [card]Favorable Winds[/card]
EDIT: I tested my secondary build in PvP, PvE Comming soon!
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3413/pvpssstk5.jpg
Fighting Master of Hammers
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7808/pvpsss1fz2.jpg
Had some trouble.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9277/pvpsss3oi6.jpg
It was a very close match.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6748/pvpsss4sn6.jpg
Now it's Master of Axes turn.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4729/pvpsss7ki0.jpg
Wasn't as close, but it was annoying.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4186/pvpsss9vz9.jpg
Master of Interrupts was easy.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3319/pvpsss10zm6.jpg
Kill it with plenty of Health
(Lost Master of E-Denial pictures, but I killed him)
I lost to Master of Lightning, Master of Hexes and Master of Spirits (Vengeful weapon killed me) and unable to kill the Monk Masters.
This is my Dazed build.
Way of the Master[card]Critical Eye[/card][card]Broad Head Arrow[/card]Rapid Fire or Critical Agility [card]Keen Arrow[/card][card]Critical Defenses[/card][card]Favorable Winds[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...dazed11qi5.jpg
Master of Hexes died fast.
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/446...dazed12gp5.jpg
Master of E-Denial died faster.
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9...dazed13cp9.jpg
Master of Lightning went down fast, I did serious shutdown. I didn't take any damage!
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4...dazed16ff9.jpg
Master of Hammers was OK, but he went down.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3...dazed17no9.jpg
I killed him, took longer than I wanted.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4...dazed23zx2.jpg
Master of Spirits was harder, with his vengeful weapon.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3...dazed25kh5.jpg
It was hard, but I killed him.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...dazed26as9.jpg
Master of interrupts was harder due that he has no spells.
I almost killed the master of Enchantments, she got lucky. I killed every master but the Monk Masters and the Master of Axes (I couldn't interrupt heal sig). The fight lasted against the remaining 3 forever, and ever. So I got bored left.
It works great, it works very well in PvP, still gotta test the second build it in PvE.
These pictures are off topic, but I have to show these, I love glitches!
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/11/5of4wtfzo1.jpg
I wonder if I could have 5/4 people in a AB group
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/590/hiparamr6.jpg
Well, at least he stayed.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6...verhereix9.jpg
I was doing my everyday farming, then this happened.
Sir Pandra Pierva
Not too bad of an idea.
John Panda
my friend used it on me when i was monking..
if the arrow hits you while he has his prep up you get interrupted .
if the arrow hits you while he has his prep up you get interrupted .
Sir Pandra Pierva
in only you could work daze into the build, maybey you have but I don't think so. With daze on top of arrow barraging in just mean
Coloneh
nothing new here.
Yanman.be
Where would you use this? Coz if you're interrupting...GG if you take flatbows...
MercenaryK
It needs Spirit of Favorable Winds and Read the Wind if you want to ensure fast interruptions with constant attacks; and in PvP you can't use Critical Agility, so there can be a substitute along with Focused Shot in exchange for Heket's Rampage for your IAS which will be needed.
It should be about interruption rather than damage; your crits would supply decent enough damage I'd imagine and with all that +% to crit that's covered.
~_~
Oh, this is meant for PvE right? Then C.Agility stays, but remove bow attacks for Read the Wind and Spirit of Favorable Winds.
It should be about interruption rather than damage; your crits would supply decent enough damage I'd imagine and with all that +% to crit that's covered.
~_~
Oh, this is meant for PvE right? Then C.Agility stays, but remove bow attacks for Read the Wind and Spirit of Favorable Winds.
sussuara
huh
glountz
For PvP use Quickshot/Needle shot for fast interrupt.
Inferior Imho to a competent Ranger that knows what he's doing with his Diversion/Savage shot/BHA, or any dagger sin buffed with a warmonger weapon.
But hey, it's a nice alternate build.
Inferior Imho to a competent Ranger that knows what he's doing with his Diversion/Savage shot/BHA, or any dagger sin buffed with a warmonger weapon.
But hey, it's a nice alternate build.
Azrael Apollyon
Quote:
Originally Posted by MercenaryK
...remove bow attacks for Read the Wind and Spirit of Favorable Winds.
You can't use Read the Wind, Disrupting Accuracy is also a prep... and like you say, the main purpose of this build is interrupting (although Keen Arrow would do a lot of damage).
Sir Pandra Pierva
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azrael Apollyon
You can't use Read the Wind, Disrupting Accuracy is also a prep... and like you say, the main purpose of this build is interrupting (although Keen Arrow would do a lot of damage).
Then use favorable winds.
MercenaryK
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azrael Apollyon
You can't use Read the Wind, Disrupting Accuracy is also a prep... and like you say, the main purpose of this build is interrupting (although Keen Arrow would do a lot of damage).
D'oh! Must have went over my head when I was typing my post.
D'oh! Must have went over my head when I was typing my post.
SotiCoto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Where would you use this? Coz if you're interrupting...GG if you take flatbows...
Flatbows have a good rate of fire, but the long arc.
That doesn't matter much though as timing isn't really critical in this build. The point is to just keep interrupting over and over and over again... and assuming you're firing constantly then there will be a constant stream of interrupts flying toward the target. Accuracy is the only real issue.... and PvE squishies tend not to move around that much (especially not while casting).
Needling Shot IS needed, though it does have the awkward condition of only insta-recharging at under 50% health (try firing at a monk trying to self-heal for instant lawlz). There just isn't any beating it for sheer arrow magnitude.
Now I think about it though.... Needling Shot limits the damage done to the enemy... so does that mean it cannot Critical?
That doesn't matter much though as timing isn't really critical in this build. The point is to just keep interrupting over and over and over again... and assuming you're firing constantly then there will be a constant stream of interrupts flying toward the target. Accuracy is the only real issue.... and PvE squishies tend not to move around that much (especially not while casting).
Needling Shot IS needed, though it does have the awkward condition of only insta-recharging at under 50% health (try firing at a monk trying to self-heal for instant lawlz). There just isn't any beating it for sheer arrow magnitude.
Now I think about it though.... Needling Shot limits the damage done to the enemy... so does that mean it cannot Critical?
Zodiak
This is an interesting concept, I will try it on my assassin. However, I dont know where you get your numbers, it should look more like this
+37%(way of the assassin)
+35%(way of the master)
+16%(critical eye)
+16%(critical strikes at 16)
+15.2%(marksmanship at 12)
37% + 35% + 16% + 16% + 15.2 = 119.2% to critical hit
It just seems to me that maybe one critical enhancing skill could be cut back for something else?
Keen Shot maybe, as suggested
+37%(way of the assassin)
+35%(way of the master)
+16%(critical eye)
+16%(critical strikes at 16)
+15.2%(marksmanship at 12)
37% + 35% + 16% + 16% + 15.2 = 119.2% to critical hit
It just seems to me that maybe one critical enhancing skill could be cut back for something else?
Keen Shot maybe, as suggested
moko
drop the sup crit, there's no need for it.
flatbows are bad.
flatbows are bad.
Fluffy Butt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
drop the sup crit, there's no need for it.
flatbows are bad. I just used a bow that was in storage. Infact, any bow will work. Thank you
for the info on the sup crit, any suggestions helps.
[card]Keen Arrow[/card] I love keen arrow, another good replacement for foused shot, but with focused shot I love the 2 seconds recharge! (with it being the only bow skill) One thing thats great about the build. Interrupt is awesome, another thing the damage is great to.
A combo with heros is a very good help, for example with Gwen (the hero, not game) casts [card]Frustration[/card] I've never seen boss go down so fast.
I was playing GWEN and my warrior was doing 5-15 damage on a level 24 necro (those ground crawling monsters) I'm easily killing them with 34 damage w/o a skill not to add the interrupt. Once again, try this build, add suggestions.
flatbows are bad. I just used a bow that was in storage. Infact, any bow will work. Thank you
for the info on the sup crit, any suggestions helps.
[card]Keen Arrow[/card] I love keen arrow, another good replacement for foused shot, but with focused shot I love the 2 seconds recharge! (with it being the only bow skill) One thing thats great about the build. Interrupt is awesome, another thing the damage is great to.
A combo with heros is a very good help, for example with Gwen (the hero, not game) casts [card]Frustration[/card] I've never seen boss go down so fast.
I was playing GWEN and my warrior was doing 5-15 damage on a level 24 necro (those ground crawling monsters) I'm easily killing them with 34 damage w/o a skill not to add the interrupt. Once again, try this build, add suggestions.
Emik
Don't you think that a sin can do a lot more of interrupting when he's wielding daggers?
I can understand why you use a bow and all but it seems to me that should you be using daggers you can do it a lot better..
Correct me if I'm wrong of course 8))
I can understand why you use a bow and all but it seems to me that should you be using daggers you can do it a lot better..
Correct me if I'm wrong of course 8))
Fluffy Butt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emik
Don't you think that a sin can do a lot more of interrupting when he's wielding daggers?
I can understand why you use a bow and all but it seems to me that should you be using daggers you can do it a lot better..
Correct me if I'm wrong of course 8)) Sadly the preparation (like most) are only for bows. "Whenever your arrows hit." I think it used to work on any weapon until a update quickly came up. I'll add pictures soon (If I could I would show a video)
I can understand why you use a bow and all but it seems to me that should you be using daggers you can do it a lot better..
Correct me if I'm wrong of course 8)) Sadly the preparation (like most) are only for bows. "Whenever your arrows hit." I think it used to work on any weapon until a update quickly came up. I'll add pictures soon (If I could I would show a video)
jesh
Warmonger's Weapon/Thunderclap > This
Done it before..
Done it before..
Retribution X
warmongers weapon + Assassin using daggers + Unblockability + IAS = Bad time for casters
Tyla
no keen arrow...?
Shuuda
1. Use a Recurve or shortbow.
2. The following skills could work as an elite: (Since I find WotA to be a waste)
-Dark Apostasy (Interruptions and enchantment removing)
-Quick shot, as mentioned already.
-Prepared shot (could work)
3. Called Shot would work well (and very well with Dark Apostasy) To bypass blocking stances and enchaments.
2. The following skills could work as an elite: (Since I find WotA to be a waste)
-Dark Apostasy (Interruptions and enchantment removing)
-Quick shot, as mentioned already.
-Prepared shot (could work)
3. Called Shot would work well (and very well with Dark Apostasy) To bypass blocking stances and enchaments.
Bowstring Badass
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emik
Don't you think that a sin can do a lot more of interrupting when he's wielding daggers?
Best part of your post sins can kd interrupt and more with daggers. DAGGERS FTW.
Issac
This build isn't half bad, gets ppl wondering what happening lol.
Fluffy Butt
I got Pictures!
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8258/gw022df4.jpg
Those Growths don't stand a chance.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5837/gw024md1.jpg
Serious shutdown.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/334/gw026sc1.jpg
Fast attacks.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5988/gw027te3.jpg
71 damage to a 80 armor Paragon, nice.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9551/gw030yp4.jpg
Poor plant didn't stand a chance against my bows.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4268/gw034xn8.jpg
That growth didn't cast a single spell.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6728/gw036rt2.jpg
Aloe got pwned
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/61/gw037rr9.jpg
Powerful, Fast attacking, I like!
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3830/gw038zf4.jpg
Do I really need to say something?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/977/gw043mo5.jpg
I can interrupt so fast, a attack skill failed (Not the only one, power attack is out to)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3627/gw044di3.jpg
The thing can't heal.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8258/gw022df4.jpg
Those Growths don't stand a chance.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5837/gw024md1.jpg
Serious shutdown.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/334/gw026sc1.jpg
Fast attacks.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5988/gw027te3.jpg
71 damage to a 80 armor Paragon, nice.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9551/gw030yp4.jpg
Poor plant didn't stand a chance against my bows.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4268/gw034xn8.jpg
That growth didn't cast a single spell.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6728/gw036rt2.jpg
Aloe got pwned
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/61/gw037rr9.jpg
Powerful, Fast attacking, I like!
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3830/gw038zf4.jpg
Do I really need to say something?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/977/gw043mo5.jpg
I can interrupt so fast, a attack skill failed (Not the only one, power attack is out to)
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3627/gw044di3.jpg
The thing can't heal.
zwei2stein
Quote:
Originally Posted by glountz
For PvP use Quickshot/Needle shot for fast interrupt.
Inferior Imho to a competent Ranger that knows what he's doing with his Diversion/Savage shot/BHA, or any dagger sin buffed with a warmonger weapon.
But hey, it's a nice alternate build. If you mod out PvE skills, it also makes nice sin hero build.
Inferior Imho to a competent Ranger that knows what he's doing with his Diversion/Savage shot/BHA, or any dagger sin buffed with a warmonger weapon.
But hey, it's a nice alternate build. If you mod out PvE skills, it also makes nice sin hero build.
Yanman.be
So like, Fluffy Butt... moebius+db + warmonger's weapon = same result but more dmg...
Coloneh
fluffy, those screen shots kinda work against you. you dealth 71 damage to a paragon? and your happy about it? no thanks. and congrats you can shut down a few lvl 15's. im really not seeing the use here.
Fluffy Butt
You got to see it in a video, I agree the pictures are working against me. Its hard to show interrupt/damage/speed in a picture. Only problem I can't make a video with this computer. Sure, I attacked level 15's and 20's but I entered a monster ridden area where I was closest to. If you play this build, you will see what I mean.
Edit: I tried the moebuis build, its good but the 11 seconds is kind of annoying, plus energy is sometimes a problem. Its a good build, I'm going to play with that some.
Edit: I tried the moebuis build, its good but the 11 seconds is kind of annoying, plus energy is sometimes a problem. Its a good build, I'm going to play with that some.
Yanman.be
?? what 11 seconds?
Fluffy Butt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I got more pictures to show with the help of Master of Damage.
Moebius Strike is this one. (no need for a interrupt skill)
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9035/gw020km1.jpg
This one is my build.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2342/gw020iv1.jpg
Note: Though some people will use different skills for Moebius Strike (I picked some skills kind of fast.) my build has constant interrupt. warmongers weapon ends in 11 seconds (if I add more to channeling, it wouldn't help) plus it can't interrupt attacks. Still a good build though I'd say its about even.
Diddy bow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
So like, Fluffy Butt... moebius+db + warmonger's weapon = same result but more dmg...
That would take melle range, which would oviously need a snare. Cant really compare. What does own this though is Choking gas, deosnt even need to hit . just remeber d-shot for that rez sig.
Coloneh
fluffy, of course you have energy problems you have 4 skills on that mobius build and one of them in unsuspecting strike
Fluffy Butt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
fluffy, of course you have energy problems you have 4 skills on that mobius build and one of them in unsuspecting strike
Well, energy problems occur after about 30 seconds, (even with critical eye etc.) which is not much of a problem in PvE (with a good team). Keeping Warmongers Weapon up is a pain after 20 seconds of fighting though, oh, one more thing it doesn't matter if I have Unsuspecting Strike or mostly any other skills, death seems to always be at 10 seconds with these skills.
P.S. 10 seconds is a good thing
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5328/gw022je4.jpg
(I added Way of Perfection to help Golden Fang Strike for the Deep Wound for hopefully faster killing)
P.S.S. Way of the Lotus DUH, my bad. I don't have a picture, but energy isn't much of a problem but keeping Warmongers Weapon is still a "little" pain. (in PvE, no need for interrupts against Master of Damage)
P.S. 10 seconds is a good thing
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5328/gw022je4.jpg
(I added Way of Perfection to help Golden Fang Strike for the Deep Wound for hopefully faster killing)
P.S.S. Way of the Lotus DUH, my bad. I don't have a picture, but energy isn't much of a problem but keeping Warmongers Weapon is still a "little" pain. (in PvE, no need for interrupts against Master of Damage)
jesh
I think that most people would agree you want Warmonger's on your ritualist, not yourself.
Maybe warmonger's would work better on an assassin if you subbed out your elite for assassin's promise.
Maybe warmonger's would work better on an assassin if you subbed out your elite for assassin's promise.
Flashy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Issac
This build isn't half bad, gets ppl wondering what happening lol.
2 bad its using a PvE skill... so dunno what people you want to wonder
Fluffy Butt
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flashy
2 bad its using a PvE skill... so dunno what people you want to wonder
Well, its ment for PvE, not PvP but it could. I got "in trouble" and can't play games (for a while) but Way of Perfection [card]Way of Perfection[/card] sounds good for a replacement. I'll give PvP a shot with this build.
(for those who wondering what I got in trouble for, I beat up a kid playing a soccer game, HE STARTED IT)
(for those who wondering what I got in trouble for, I beat up a kid playing a soccer game, HE STARTED IT)
=DNC=Trucker
We are in the "PVE" forum
zknifeh
fluffy, use zealous daggers and u shouldnt have any energy problems... cuz i know i dont
Xetelian
I find that the interrupt rate of this is fine for long casting spells but there really is only luck behind it.