Armor help plz

ManCub

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

What armors should i be using; plz give me as much detail as you can (or feel like). thnx

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Max AL armor of whatever skin you like the most. For insignias, stick with added energy I suppose.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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I use health personally.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

i use both health and energy. find a balance of each that suits your build.

the other upgrades are too conditional and therefore unreliable imo.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by X Cytherea X
i use both health and energy. find a balance of each that suits your build.

the other upgrades are too conditional and therefore unreliable imo. Agreed but since mostly in pve I use zelous daggers I don't have a problem with energy. So I use the health boost cause I use a couple of sup runes on my pve sin.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Sup runes on a sassi is that a good idea for a frontline char?

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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I have beaten 3 of the 4 campaigns with it. Proph, nf and factions I haven't got my sin to GWEN just yet. But it's worked just fine for me in pve. And I usually have only 360 health.

khaderach19

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Our Fun is you Dieing [fool]

if you stack your defenses, then having the largest HP pool doesn't really matter.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
I have beaten 3 of the 4 campaigns with it. Proph, nf and factions I haven't got my sin to GWEN just yet. But it's worked just fine for me in pve. And I usually have only 360 health. Then I hope your monks have prot spirit to save you, because a hit from a HM boss is usually 300-400 damage

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

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Oh my...I run @600 health...

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
I have beaten 3 of the 4 campaigns with it. Proph, nf and factions I haven't got my sin to GWEN just yet. But it's worked just fine for me in pve. And I usually have only 360 health. And here comes the 'sins are suiciders' myth.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

I have 575 hp on my sin, chestpiece and leggings are radiant, the rest is survivor. Works well enough for both PvE and PvP.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Purple Lingerie - :D

I use 1 piece of nightstalkers on me feet and the rest energy and I run around with 530 hp w/o a +30 on my daggers.

Laenavesse

Laenavesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Shadow Tower

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Sup runes on a sassi is that a good idea for a frontline char? one superior rune is fine.

Especially since the sin is NOT supposed to be a frontline character. Sins are not warriors. They should only come in after the warrior has aggroed.

However, if you're like me and never use the war henchie or the war henchie won't move despite you targeting and calling the target (my heroes are casters..better healer, nuker, and MM than henchies), and are only hero and henching, then yeah you become frontline but if you pre-prot yourself and make sure your AI are following you and not just standing there dumbfounded then you can still go in with a sup rune.

But i would only suggest one unless you were trying to do something unconventional o_O And of course have a sup vigor.

After that, armor is up to you. I used to use nightstalkers but now i just use radiant. health is usually.. usually...was it 475 or 495..i can't remember...

but it's entirely up to you. like the extra points of damage. and energy. I'm just crazy like that.

and i've done hard mode on all the campaigns (vanquished, mapped, missions). Mostly with heroes and one other person with heroes. Yeah I die, but it was gonna happen anyway since despite the tank being there i'm spiked first. And no, I don't reach 60% first, usually I'm like one of the last ones to reach that :P

o_O it's really the oddest thing... I swear i don't go in until like later. I think i have some sort of giant target on my back..(and note: my heroes have less health cos i'm too lazy and give them superior runes but not a sup vigor rune..just whatever i got >_> but they don't go down easy either cos their skills are uber somehow o_o)

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

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Full survivor set, Minor rune, Sup vigor, and 3 vitae runes works great.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
Full survivor set, Minor rune, Sup vigor, and 3 vitae runes works great. FTL no minor dagger crit or shadow or deadly? I use a superior vigor a minor shadow deadly critical strikes and dagger mastery on all my armors.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
I use 1 piece of nightstalkers on me feet and the rest energy and I run around with 530 hp w/o a +30 on my daggers. The energy applies from any piece of armor but the nightstalker only adds armor to the piece it is on. So, unless you frequently attack in the middle of a lot of traps I might move that nighstalker to the chest piece and move the energy down to the feet.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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Yeah but it gives more energy on the chest piece you know...

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
And here comes the 'sins are suiciders' myth. I use 2 sups with about 360 health for pve. It works for me always even in DoA and HM. I guess it just depends on the player.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
Then I hope your monks have prot spirit to save you, because a hit from a HM boss is usually 300-400 damage I always pack prot spirit for that reason.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Nightstalkers...

The Versus Slashing / Piercing / Blunt ones are all but worthless unless you're in a VERY exclusive environment or taking on a VERY particular kind of physical-attack foe... And since sins are for taking down squishies with priority, that is generally a no-no.

Radiant (or "Shrouded" to use its old name, which I prefer) is nice if you're casting or using a very energy-intensive build.... but generally if your Critical Strikes are high enough and you're using Zealous daggers then a large energy pool is a waste...

Survivor? Meh. As long as you have enough health to avoid being spiked to death, raising armour seems higher priority. Fine if you're using it to counter the effects of heavy rune usage...


But I swear by Nightstalker.
+15 Armour while attacking... and generally an Assassin is either attacking or not in the combat area at all. It might as well be unconditional for all the difference it makes.


Runes?
I'm a bit of a nutter in that I use two Major runes... one for Dagger Mastery and one for Critical Strikes. It ensures I can maintain both at a reasonably high level (At least 13) while maintaining a few points for Shadow Arts (Way of Perfection).
Superior Vigor is a must, unless you're seriously poor...
At least Minor Shadow Arts is recommended.
The other runes? Vitae or Attunement as you like it.


Appearance?
Whatever skin you like....

.... except Ancient. Nothing justifies Porcupine-Armour.