Alliance Battle

Paragons in AB are scetchy at best, since you would need a team that actually stays together to be most effective. If you can get a group together, however, you can give your side a decided advantage I bet.

Probably an R/P would be your best bet for a spear wielder in AB. Paragons don't have strong access to self-healing, speed boosts, ect like rangers and warriors do. This makes them less of a split and AB class.

However and R/P with escape, apply, barbed spear might be something like what you are looking for. what if you combined anthem of flame/apply poison/barbed spear? would that be too many skill slots? I'm new to Paragon, so I'm trying to come up with some creative builds.

Yeah.. paras in AB are meh if you try to play it like PVE w/ shouts and stuff and go in non para groups. I do use my para most for AB though actually lol. I use this:

[skill]Heal as One[/skill] [skill]Heket's Rampage[/skill] [skill]Barbed Spear[/skill] [skill]Blazing Spear[/skill] [skill]Poisonous Bite[/skill] [skill]brutal strike[/skill] [skill]remedy signet[/skill] [skill]charm animal[/skill] Cool, going to try that .

Yeah.. paras in AB are meh if you try to play it like PVE w/ shouts and stuff and go in non para groups. I do use my para most for AB though actually lol. I use this:

[skill]Heal as One[/skill] [skill]Heket's Rampage[/skill] [skill]Barbed Spear[/skill] [skill]Blazing Spear[/skill] [skill]Poisonous Bite[/skill] [skill]brutal strike[/skill] [skill]remedy signet[/skill] [skill]charm animal[/skill]

with
12 beast mastery
11 spear mastery + 1 + 1
and the remaining in Command for some shield protection. I tried it with all points in spear and beast and just using my Bison Cup for the offhand, but the shield is better and it isn't worth just one more point in spear mastery.

I switch out remedy sig for the new gwen spammable spear skills and w/ maiming spear every now and then, but i think i prefer remedy sig. and yeah, you can do the same w/ a ranger and put the remaining in expertise, but it's just a trade off for more armor w/ para. I can solo cap any of the shrines except maybe the multiple ele shrine (though I am still in the market for a "Riders On The Storm" inscription...), and I consistently win pretty much any 1 vs 1 encounter unless I just do something stupid. My fave is the lone assassin coming after the supposedly disadvantaged ABing para... they always die against this build x).

So yeah, trying to go normal-para build into a PUG for AB is pretty rough :/. yey for conditions :B. Wondering something about this, how do you keep up that energy?

im guessing using something like a zealous mod?

Wondering something about this, how do you keep up that energy?

im guessing using something like a zealous mod? Maybe you just go to Heket's when you're low on energy, and by the time it's run out you'll have energy again?

what if you combined anthem of flame/apply poison/barbed spear? would that be too many skill slots? I'm new to Paragon, so I'm trying to come up with some creative builds. You spread yourself too thin. If you run apply you really want to be a ranger primary.

12 beast mastery
11 spear mastery + 1 + 1
and the remaining in Command for some shield protection. I tried it with all points in spear and beast and just using my Bison Cup for the offhand, but the shield is better and it isn't worth just one more point in spear mastery. So, do you put 9 into command somehow to get all the effects of the armor? I mean, why put any into command at all otherwise?

hlc617: I run a very similar build for my ranger:
[card]Spear Of Lightning[/card][card]Blazing Spear[/card][card]Merciless Spear[/card][card]Poisonous Bite[/card][card]Tiger's Fury[/card][card]Heal As One[/card][card]Charm Animal[/card][card]Run As One[/card]

My ranger also seems to win most 1v1s, the advantages of the para would be greater spear damage and better armour. My ranger can spam the skills over and over due to expertise and a zealous spear, but if you are trying it with a paragon, maybe replace something with a nice damage increading command shout, seeing as at least 9 points will be in command anyway. That way you might get a nice energy gain. Despite the nerf, i think [card]"Go For The Eyes!"[/card] might be worth a go. The only thing I object to here is that Remedy Signet seems very necessary in AB right now. Conditions fly in every direction, especially poison and cripple that lingers forever, and blind.

[card]Heket's Rampage[/card][card]Barbed Spear[/card][card]Blazing Spear[/card][card]Merciless Spear[/card][card]Poisonous Bite[/card][card]Heal As One[/card][card]Remedy Signet[/card][card]Charm Animal[/card]

That's what I've been using and it works very well. i have a bunch of health mods, too, so I can survive very well while putting up incredible amounts of pressure. The downside, of course, is that there's no speed boost. I'm thinking of removing Merciless Spear for one. Speed boosts really are that important I think.

since we're talking about a paragon here, it might be worthwhile to run "fall back!", since it's one of the few shouts that affects EVERY allied player. use it while standing in the middle of a mob... and you'll get a really, really fast moving mob.

anyways, i think the most effective way to play a paragon is to have 4 of them. paragons, like SF eles, become significantly more powerful if you run multiples of them. I agree completely. My roommate and I run Paras together. He just puts in "fall back!" and Holy Spear instead of Blazing Spear and Remedy Signet. "Fall Back" for the exact purpose you mentioned, and b/c there's ALWAYS an MM or a pet running around in AB.

The only thing I object to here is that Remedy Signet seems very necessary in AB right now. Conditions fly in every direction, especially poison and cripple that lingers forever, and blind.

[card]Heket's Rampage[/card][card]Barbed Spear[/card][card]Blazing Spear[/card][card]Merciless Spear[/card][card]Poisonous Bite[/card][card]Heal As One[/card][card]Remedy Signet[/card][card]Charm Animal[/card]

That's what I've been using and it works very well. i have a bunch of health mods, too, so I can survive very well while putting up incredible amounts of pressure. The downside, of course, is that there's no speed boost. I'm thinking of removing Merciless Spear for one. Speed boosts really are that important I think. I agree that remedy signet may be useful in AB. But I tend to go with a speed boost, its a little more glass-cannon-esque, but I prefer to have mobility over survivability.



Oh, and [card]Heket's Rampage[/card] ends when you use an attack skill, I'm not sure this is the best IAS to use when you have so many spear attacks in your bar.

I agree that remedy signet may be useful in AB. But I tend to go with a speed boost, its a little more glass-cannon-esque, but I prefer to have mobility over survivability.



Oh, and [card]Heket's Rampage[/card] ends when you use an attack skill, I'm not sure this is the best IAS to use when you have so many spear attacks in your bar. Yeah, usually what I do is Poisonous bite, then Heket's to get my adrenaline up, and then Barb/Blaze/Merciless until they die.

Armor cap is 25 so SY+stand your ground = no no Its a little redundant because of the armor stacking cap, but not completely useless. "Stand Your Ground!" still covers the time between SY! shouts.

c'mon peeps, think more!! theres not only 1 good combo for the paragon, not everything has to be uber godly cookie cutter here. just because the majority of the paragon skills rely on your immidiate party, doesant mean u have to use them, use the skjills that also include allies, or just youself. when i AB as a paragon, im as greedy as the assassin when it comes to skill choices.

i use this skillbar in AB, its great againced all physical dmg dealers.

[card]"You're All Alone!"[/card][card]Mighty Throw[/card][card]Barbed Spear[/card][card]"Watch Yourself!"[/card][card]Shield Stance[/card][card]Protector's Defense[/card][card]"For Great Justice!"[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card]

of course i havn't played ab in about a month, even with the nerf to WY!, its still useable.

so what if the majority of my skills come from the warrior, i have many other "fun" builds that use the majority of skills from my second profession.

just think of what u want to do, find skills that go with what you are trying to accomplish, then put something together, tweak it later for balance, energy, or other issues that it might have..

i know im not the only1 that cares, so please. THINK! But do you HAVE to use Mighty Throw? Personally, I'd rather NOT wait 4-5 seconds for one attack.