In Game Mic Chat

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

I cant find search for some reason and it didnt show up on the list of ideas so here it goes..

I really would like an in game chat to be enabled in the game. I am tired of loading up vent, GSC, teamspeak or another type of chat program. I wish you could talk through the game on a mic. Lots of games have this and its really neat (WoW, Call of Duty 2, Ext).

I really think this would be great for the game. There would be a button you press in game that shows you are talking. There would be like a party chat and make different channels for your guild/alliance/outpost ext.

To make it less confusing it would be disabled in every outpost/except guild hall. The guild hall and the explorable areas/pvp areas would have team chat in it (without the party chat). The party chat would work like this:

You would be in an outpost and click on a button in the menu. From there you would be able to pick a chat (if one exists) or make a new chat. From that chat you would have admin, be able to kick or ban anyone from your chat space. In that chat space you would be able to make new channels, sub channels, and change the voice quality (maybe).

Send some ideas on this topic, I would really like to see what everyone thinks. Like I said, I am tired of loading up different voice chat things, downloading them, typing in stuff, and then taking up processes (maybe this is the problem for a few others as well)

Thanks

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

I do believe Gaile herself said once that they wouldn't add voice chat to Guild Wars.

I agree with that. It's pointless and would only eat up server resources.

freaky naughty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/N

It would be a waste of money for Anet and most people use henchies and heroes so wouldn't need it. It's only needed for high ranked GvG guilds who need quick communication so no I dont think they should put it in.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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actually i use a voip whenever i do anything without heros and henchies, its nice but the server space is too large for anet to handle atm, like all good suggestions i have to say "maybe in GW2"

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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It'd be better if GW just shipped with a VOIP program that could be run on the party leader's computer.

bart

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quit trying to copy WoW! lol...

anyway Anet doesn't have enough funds for such a major project.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/notsigned

Only the "good" players use Vent/TS right now. I'd like to keep it that way. By not having it easily accessable in the game, you keep the "noob you suck you petifile," etc people off voice chat. Just look at Halo 2/3's integrated voice chat system. Its not really that useful, its mostly just used to hurl insults at people. What a great "improvement."

Doucet

Doucet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

League of Commanders[LoC]

whats so hard about loading up Ventrilo and Teamspeak anyways, it takes like 30 seconds max. Agreeing with HawkofStorms id have to say that having VoIP over the GW client would just fuel kids to run thier mouthes which is annoying enough to hear when you click on All chat, and thats without hearing thier little unpubertised voices...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bart
Quit trying to copy WoW! lol...
WoW doesnt have Ingame VoIP, they use Ventrilo/Teamspeak just like us...

/notsigned

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

WoW added voip in a recent update actually. But to add one into guild wars would not be very cost efficient since there is no monthly fee. It would cost money to program into and then the extra server and bandwidth load wouldn't be worth it.

/not signed

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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DDO had VoiP first but from what I heard, they had server problems because of it.

Tr33zon

Tr33zon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

East Sussex, England

Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

W/

/notsigned.

Server resources would be strained running VoIP sessions for that many people, and I'm happy to just use Ventrilo anyway.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

I have to agree to a point... I don't want the server to get lagged down with voice packets when there are 3rd party programs that already handle that task very well and because tis separate it does not effect the game server in the process.

However I have to say there is no more rewarding and fun aspect of any game then playing with Voice chat enabled and everyone on microphones talking to each other while playing. I use teamspeak for our alliance, and we have 3 servers between the 10 guilds... The main server is for our entire gaming clan and muti games, the other 2 are more specific for Guild Wars alone... Still getting new people online and using mics is hard enough now... imagine if it was riddled with Microphone spam for gold resellers or item trading spam... That would destroy it for everyone...

Please keep Voice communication in private hands. Its better all around that way.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

I've only heard snippets of automated vocal trade spam from other games. It would be a cool feature for Anet to implement, but there are just as many problems with that as well.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Our guild has been together since long before GW was a dream, and comms are a necessity. However Teamspeak and Ventrilo are more than adequate. 99% of the time text chat is turned off anyway.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

You know what i would support? In game overlay support...


Remember the CE of GW Prophecies came with Teamspeak and headset... so obviously even Anet from the very beginning had the vision to know people would use something like TS to talk to each other while playing... Vent is equally as good IMHO, but I like some of the free to host use in the TS licence for non profit gaming clans.

It woul dbe nice to see native overlay support for TS or VEnt in GW so those 3rd party programs could continue to propsper, but the functionality of some thigns like room switching or mic muting, or seeing who is talking could be brought in game, with little resource requirements to the game.

I use this overlay for TS and love it...
http://www.teamspeakoverlay.com/
Unfortantly because of how Vista Broke many applications functionality with DX overlay and DX hook systems including Xfire, it does not work on Vista or 64bit installs ;(

Really makes thing come together nicely however for those that can use it. If Anet would integrate something like this for TS and Vent it would be VERY VERY well received.

Mike_version2

Mike_version2

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucet


WoW doesnt have Ingame VoIP, they use Ventrilo/Teamspeak just like us...
WoW has now or is getting ingame VoIP in a patch, just an fyi.

more on topic:

seems like an unnecessary luxury that could just eat up the server

/notsigned

use vent or TS if really needed

Ghryphon

Ghryphon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Iowa, United States

LOD

Mo/

/not signed

Buy a vent server, or *gasp* download the free client and use others servers....

Dont be cheap AND or lazy. (Servers can range from like 5$ a month or so, very cheap)

Plus I agree with everyone who said it would eat up resources...do we really want more lag? Answer...No.

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

I use a headset all the time while gaming in fact gw is one of the few multiplayer online games I don't use it with 100% of the time.

Almost all the other games I team up with friends first then go to the game.
GW being a continuous game where you are in the game environment whether activly playing or not causes me to play it differently.
I imagine some form of voip essential for decent team play pvp gvg.

problems
Volume settings for one we find there is always a set up period when people join one too loud another too quiet.
Also having it voice activated means several talk at once and you get nowhere.

So I recon in GW
It would be usefull for a party in pve provided only the party leader talks during fights.
Guildhalls yes I would and do use it there

Could be usefull outside of that if there where key commands like ts and ventrillo use to change channels that way you could meet up in town assign a channel form a party and set off on voice.
If lag was a problem you would have to do what most large clans do and have a server pc to run it all.
At the moment we get by with drawing attack plans and routs on the map and the occasional use of voice.


To sum up the only reason for an ingame voip system is because there are far too many voip programs.
If there was one standard talk program we would all be using it and the endless problems of meet you on skype ? Oh now we use TS its loads better no no we use Ventrillo Skype Sucks.

Only way forward I see for voice in GW would be either built in voip with gw2 or at least one bundled with the game with enough in game features to make many people use it,that would be usefull.
ie
If it allowed voice commands of game commands like, emotes then people could say dance sit play air guitar etc and not have to type.
Some sad people "prob me" would use that.

as for voice in gw I wish everyone luck but don't see it getting off the ground outside guilds.

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucet
whats so hard about loading up Ventrilo and Teamspeak anyways, it takes like 30 seconds max. Agreeing with HawkofStorms id have to say that having VoIP over the GW client would just fuel kids to run thier mouthes which is annoying enough to hear when you click on All chat, and thats without hearing thier little unpubertised voices...



WoW doesnt have Ingame VoIP, they use Ventrilo/Teamspeak just like us...

/notsigned
Well its nice to just talk, and not have to load it up I think. Also, WoW added VoIP last Tuesday.

Well if GW decided to add VoIP I Think everyone will benefit from us , not just the high ranked guilds. Some people don't have a vent/teamspeak server and they would like to talk to others on their team, say TA or HA. If ANET decided to add it I'm sure they would work out the sound/kinks...ext.

VinnyRidira

VinnyRidira

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ridirian Guides

W/Me

It would be nice but would have to be easy to avoid irritations. We do use TS and it really helps with game play. I find that I never see the text when I am busy and in that case TS is brilliant. It however may be another good reason to avoid PuGs.

JeniM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

W/E

If i saw this in update notes first thing i'd do next time i ran game
F11 --> Audio --> Chat off

You really want to hear what the 13 year olds have to say everytime anything happens?

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

WoW has it and it is rather good, but for GW PvE it isn't needed and for PvP everyone already has access to a vent/TS server already so what would be the point?

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

I actually like the idea of an official voice chat through Guild Wars itself, if it can be managed. Because right now, some people who run a voice chat server tell people the URL, which is their IP number. So the person just gave out his/her IP number to his/her computer, unless I'm mistaken. If that's the case, not really smart...

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Very few people use there home PC as a Vent/TS server they just buy one as they cost basicly nothing.

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

Home TS servers for non profits cost NOTHING. and are more common then many think... I know of at least 30 private TS servers just among the players I know from a multitude of games... There is the added aspect of staying private too. Because the TS system does not list them if its not on their subscription system. Thats a good thing. That makes your TS server for your members and friends alone...

Deadlyjunk

Deadlyjunk

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Fisherman's Haven

Endangered Species List [List]

W/E

a) Voice has not gone live on WoW yet
b) Vent/TS > monthly fees

GW is not WoW. There are two key differences:
-) Guild Wars has no monhtly fees.
-) World of Warcraft is a good game.

/notsigned btw

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

It went live on about 25-30 EU servers a few days ago and I don't know how many US servers. It has also been on the test servers for months.

Micromaster

Micromaster

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

...

W/Mo

/not signed

If GW did implement VOIP it would be horrid quality to keep the BW down. I would rather use Vent/TS. People on dial up would be crying.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

NCSoft has its own VOIP service for its games. ITs all a matter of ANET tapping into that resource.

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

/notsigned

the waves of 10 year olds in chat alone gives me a migraine, voice chat might be enough to drive me insane.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Voice Compression and transmission is too much for the Anet resources and the 56Kb/s playable policy.

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exterminate all

You would be in an outpost and click on a button in the menu. From there you would be able to pick a chat (if one exists) or make a new chat. From that chat you would have admin, be able to kick or ban anyone from your chat space. In that chat space you would be able to make new channels, sub channels, and change the voice quality (maybe).

Thanks
You don't have to listen to 10 year olds, simply leave the chat or make a new one.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
/notsigned

Only the "good" players use Vent/TS right now. I'd like to keep it that way. By not having it easily accessable in the game, you keep the "noob you suck you petifile," etc people off voice chat. Just look at Halo 2/3's integrated voice chat system. Its not really that useful, its mostly just used to hurl insults at people. What a great "improvement."
QFT

If you've ever played on XBox Live, you'd know exactly what Hawk's talking about.

"Get da RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO over here noob, dude, that shit's so gay, Ima gonna go kill this gay shit."

I mean come on...do most of us really want to listen to some idiot trash talking on a voice program? I keep the "All chat" tab clicked off as it is. I like listening to my music...I don't want to have to listen to some weirdo with a high voice shouting off expletives

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

Did you not read my above post....might wanna check it??

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exterminate all
Did you not read my above post....might wanna check it??
Just because it can be ignored doesn't mean abuses of the system are not going to happen and won't make that behavior any less against the rules.

If I walk down the street and see somebody being mugged, I can stay clear of it by walking on the other side of the street. That doesn't make the muggers behavior any less reprehensible.

roflcopter2445

roflcopter2445

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

Reston, VA

Citadel Of Faith [LaZy]

W/A

I can definetly see it being used for team chat in RA/TA, maybe even HA, but I'm not sure anywhere else, since guilds have their own vent/ts for it to begin with.

/halfsigned

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

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Take this ideas resources and fix the HORRIBLE LAG that is already in the game.
Many people try and play this game on dial up, VOIP would slay them.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Guild Wars is a game without monthly fee, said enough....beggers can't be choosers

- Ganni

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

/notsigned

rather not hear the sharp whining voices of a 14-year-old.
Plus the bandwidth penalty is not really worth it.

Exterminate all

Exterminate all

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

In a house

Not Behind My Back [Back]

W/

The lag could be bad for some, but im sure people could fix it.

Also Saphrium...if you have a problem with someone talking you can leave the chat as i stated in my 1st statement