Current state of the mesmer...

Goldleader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/Me

A few months ago I finally got around to deleting my old mesmer and creating a new mesmer with a more appealing name and look.

I remember when I first started playing my 2nd Mesmer, I saw a ton of posts that discussed how the Mesmer class is not as good as it used to be, and that finding groups is VERY difficult for high-end farming.

Now that I finally beat 3 of the 4 games with my Mesmer, and I'm on the last mission for Factions, I could not disagree more with the negativity. Every mission I played, my mesmer was immediately added to the group, save for ONE instance in proph. In fact, many times the comments I hear from other team members when I'm added are "Yay a mesmer" or "Sweet, this is a balanced group." I have never heard anyone write something negative like "what the hell, a mesmer? They suck!" Generally speaking, most players seem to realize that mesmers are absolutely worth grouping with. This goes for FoW, UW, the new GW:EN farm teams, etc. Ok, I'll admit the Deep took time, but I blame that on the fact that there are fewer a fewer PUG Deep Runs and more and more Guild only Deep runs.

Some of the complaints from veteran mesmers stem from the fact that the newer games (Nightfall and GW:EN) feature more mobs at once than the original 2 games did. The mesmer's speciality is in killing single targets, not in area effect damage skills, which are more effective for large groups. Regardless, I have noticed one thing, a Mesmer can help a group take down an opposing monk much quicker than it could without the Mesmer. Single target shutdown has tremendous value.

What do you guys think? Do you have difficulty getting groups? If so, where?

t h i n e eyes b l e e d

t h i n e eyes b l e e d

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Finland, Vantaa

Sasquatch Squad [LAME]

Rt/

Well after since Nightfall came out i haven't palyedin a signle non-farm PUGs it's hard to say but i think mesmers rock... and they are PvE class as every other class is too IMO mesmers CAN replace rits eles dervs and assas in PUGs

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

i have had somewhat of the same experience. You just need to have a good build, and not use noobish skills taht are thrown together.

Water Angel

Water Angel

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

Paris

Me/E

im going for guardian and vanquishing on my mesmer and when i throw ask for group prescing what for in oublic i neva had problem find group.ppl jsut love mesmers for hard mode and hard areas.

and mesmers can do aoe stuff as well. aoe degen, slow,aoe interupt,aoe dmg.....

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldleader
Some of the complaints from veteran mesmers stem from the fact that the newer games (Nightfall and GW:EN) feature more mobs at once than the original 2 games did. The mesmer's speciality is in killing single targets, not in area effect damage skills, which are more effective for large groups. Regardless, I have noticed one thing, a Mesmer can help a group take down an opposing monk much quicker than it could without the Mesmer. Single target shutdown has tremendous value. - I don't know about this "no AoE" rule. Three skills I use most frequently in PvE are Mantra of Recovery and Ether Nightmare followed by Cry of Pain. After that most mobs are down to half health. And I let the Ele heroes take care of rest. Empathy and Backfire are a bit overrated versus normal mobs, as the damage won't trigger that many times since Heroes will switch fire to your own target. Against bosses they are a godsend. Guilt works too.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

sig of illusions and go ele secondary for mes and I was actually out nuking eles

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

And don't forget that Mesmer is a GREAT, almost imba help in Eye of the North. Every team trying to do a dungeon should get a mesmer. Holy Wrath + smiting signets = win in Shards of Orr, Cathedral of Flames and few more. And I can kill Great Destroyer with my mesmer in one minute, depending on how fast he will use his after-being-interrupted skill.

mesmer anthony

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

AI

Me/

most of the time the build shows how much skill you have.

Dodo The Extinct

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

Quote:
sig of illusions and go ele secondary for mes and I was actually out nuking eles Signet Of Illusions + all pure PvE Skills = Uber 1337

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Mesmers were never wanted in PUGs, simply because most people like cookie cutter builds when in reality they can be useful.