Beastmaster.. what is it good for?
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Marksmanship 10 (9+1)
Expertise 11 (9+2)
Beast Mastery 14 (12+2)
Skills:
1. Read The Wind
2. Otyugh's Cry
3. Penetrating Attack
4. Feral Lunge
5. Scavenger Strike
6. Poisonous Bite
7. Heal As One (E)
8. Charm Animal
Only thing at moment is maybe a lack of interrupt.
Expertise 11 (9+2)
Beast Mastery 14 (12+2)
Skills:
1. Read The Wind
2. Otyugh's Cry
3. Penetrating Attack
4. Feral Lunge
5. Scavenger Strike
6. Poisonous Bite
7. Heal As One (E)
8. Charm Animal
Only thing at moment is maybe a lack of interrupt.
The Real Roy Keane
Is this for PvE or PvP? If it's PvP, the standard hammer wielding Bunny Thumper is better than any of the above builds.
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It is not for PvP
Don Zardeone
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Originally Posted by Demi
what exactly is a beast ranger good for? I'm somewhat new to GW and I just wanted a little clarification. thanks.
-d PvE:
Tanking: pet can tank, but eh need to convince your team it can
General damage: bow is meh, pet is weeeeeeee
Group farming: b/p groups
Solo farming: pet tank solo bossfarmer. It's how I got all my bows.
PvP:
- RoA
-d PvE:
Tanking: pet can tank, but eh need to convince your team it can
General damage: bow is meh, pet is weeeeeeee
Group farming: b/p groups
Solo farming: pet tank solo bossfarmer. It's how I got all my bows.
PvP:
- RoA
Ben-A-BoO
I recently started to bring a pet along again in PvE and was amazed how good it works. A pet can take out backline casters without you having to worry about them any more if you lock it onto the target ...
[skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill]* [skill]call of haste[/skill] or Feral Aggression AND Great Dwarf Weapon = Additional Hammer Warrior ... 104 AL (80 base + 24 Otyugh's Cry) 1.75 AS + unblockable KD (depending on your Deldrimor Title Track)
Send the pet in with locking it onto the target, if you use caster heavy hero groups, then usually the first hex or long casting ele spells are fired on your pet and the aggro is not directly in front of your squishies ... if the pet dies ... fine: no dps and a corpse for your MM.
And of course pets are great fun.
Cheers,
Timebandit
*like stated above skill description not up to date
p.s. Don Zardeone its RaO =)
[skill]Otyugh's Cry[/skill]* [skill]call of haste[/skill] or Feral Aggression AND Great Dwarf Weapon = Additional Hammer Warrior ... 104 AL (80 base + 24 Otyugh's Cry) 1.75 AS + unblockable KD (depending on your Deldrimor Title Track)
Send the pet in with locking it onto the target, if you use caster heavy hero groups, then usually the first hex or long casting ele spells are fired on your pet and the aggro is not directly in front of your squishies ... if the pet dies ... fine: no dps and a corpse for your MM.
And of course pets are great fun.
Cheers,
Timebandit
*like stated above skill description not up to date
p.s. Don Zardeone its RaO =)
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What would you guys say is the better pet? Right now I am using a Black Bear. But, would you say that the Black Widow is a nice pet to have ^^ ?
Wakka
I think thier all the same, some deal different damage but I think in terms of the amount of damage and hp etc their the same.
Also thier great for just adding some extra DPS to your build, it really helps to pile on the pressure along.
Also thier great for just adding some extra DPS to your build, it really helps to pile on the pressure along.
The Shelf
I think all the pets are the same except for two things. Bears should generally be avoided (unless you just have to have one) because they have a special attack (Bestial Mauling?) that doesn't do anything. It's just a normal attack, but the drawback is that it takes longer to activate than a normal attack. I think the polar bear is okay to use, though.
The other thing that differs between pets is the attack type. Most pets use slashing, I think, while only a few use piercing. The Black Widow is an example of a piercing pet. You should be able to find all this info on wiki.guildwars.com if you want more details.
The other thing that differs between pets is the attack type. Most pets use slashing, I think, while only a few use piercing. The Black Widow is an example of a piercing pet. You should be able to find all this info on wiki.guildwars.com if you want more details.
Rathcail
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Originally Posted by The Shelf
I think the polar bear is okay to use, though.
It is. Mine wastes no time for useless mauling.
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Well I like Blackbears. I would prefer a Polarbear but I cannot be bothered to level it up all the way too 20 again!
One other thing to realise is it is not always about being the best, it is about enjoying your time (a general note that we all should consider).
One other thing to realise is it is not always about being the best, it is about enjoying your time (a general note that we all should consider).
lennymon
If it helps, you can afk death level a polar bear with just Gwen the resmer along.
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Okay, Lenny. I have never came across that terminology. Can you expland please; though it does sound like I can just go away from keyboard and have him level himself..
Note: I have only Proph, Fac, NF.
Note: I have only Proph, Fac, NF.
Yanman.be
Yeah you die so he gets xp, he levels up, you cap him at level 20. ( I think )
lennymon
ah, polar bear is only gwen. and yes, death levelling makes dire pets 100% of the time, as they are killing you before you charm... over and over
gwen is there to keep ressing you
after it hits 20th, you just charm
it's best to clear a spot around the beasty though so you wont be interrupted by like a charr warband first however.
gwen is there to keep ressing you
after it hits 20th, you just charm
it's best to clear a spot around the beasty though so you wont be interrupted by like a charr warband first however.
Rexion
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Originally Posted by Floski
Absolutely nothing.
pun intended?
cause if it was, i chuckled...
beast mastery...
hmm... wasting slots?
cause if it was, i chuckled...
beast mastery...
hmm... wasting slots?
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Okay I am now using the Black Widow (Which, as it spawned, is an Elder pet).
I really miss my bear though. I was thinking of getting a white Bear from EotN.
1. Does a White Polar Bear do Piercing dmg?
2. Piercing dmg from a pet is the better to have, yes?
I really miss my bear though. I was thinking of getting a white Bear from EotN.
1. Does a White Polar Bear do Piercing dmg?
2. Piercing dmg from a pet is the better to have, yes?
Angelus...
try this build out for size if you're looking for something with good dmg
Savage Shot
Sloth Hunters Shot (change if you dont have GWEN)
Brutal Strike
Feral Aggresion (a beastmasters must-have skill)
Heal as One (E)
Lightning Reflexes
Charm Animal
(some form of rez)
I currently have a dire polar bear.
use a shortbow
I've now switched to using this in almost all PvE situations. Capable of high dps due the Shortbow and Feral Aggresion. I'm currently really loving this.
Savage Shot
Sloth Hunters Shot (change if you dont have GWEN)
Brutal Strike
Feral Aggresion (a beastmasters must-have skill)
Heal as One (E)
Lightning Reflexes
Charm Animal
(some form of rez)
I currently have a dire polar bear.
use a shortbow
I've now switched to using this in almost all PvE situations. Capable of high dps due the Shortbow and Feral Aggresion. I'm currently really loving this.
Marverick
Is Great Dwarf Weapon still bugged right now?
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I was just wondering what Pet dmg is more effective:
Slashing or Piercing?
Slashing or Piercing?
Lurid
Technically they're the same, so long as you aren't fighting an enemy who has like..a shield with +AL vs Slash / Pierce.
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I like my little spider, but I think I prefer something bigger and more aggressive looking. The Bear fits this description. However, Black Bears become useless with their Brutal Mawling. When I get EotN I will probably charm a Polar Bear. Unless there is any major reason someone can come up with to stick with the Black Widow..
Angelus...
Go with the polar bear, it's awesome.
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Yeah I am thinking of doing that.
Though, I am tempted to make him an Elder, rather than a regular Hearty.
1. Does the polar bear still growl like my Black Bear did
2. How do pets gain XP. Do they get exactly the same XP you do?
Though, I am tempted to make him an Elder, rather than a regular Hearty.
1. Does the polar bear still growl like my Black Bear did
2. How do pets gain XP. Do they get exactly the same XP you do?
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Marverick
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Originally Posted by 3246251196
I was just wondering what Pet dmg is more effective:
Slashing or Piercing? There's very little difference. They each have an inscription that hoses them, which you encounter rarely. They each have a skill which hoses them (shields up and bladeturn refrain), which you encounter rarely. Necromancers have an armor insignia that hoses piercing, which no one wears. Probably the biggest difference is that there's a number of Prophecies plant monsters that are weak to slashing. Besides, most of your pet damage in a full-on beastmaster build is untyped, armor-ignoring +damage from skills anyway. Marverick
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Originally Posted by Chthon
Think so. I also find it painfully expensive without expertise.
Well if the +damage is working properly then I'll probably run Ferocious Strike with it as I don't need Enraged Lunge, that'll give plenty of energy for Great Dwarf Weapon and some other PvE skills. cr00mz
i was thinking of going beastmaster but i wanna know when you got like all BM skills, what do you as a player do? you just stand back and let your pet attack? or do you use the bow as a back-up? but if you use a bow wouldnt you spread your attributes too much?
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For an effective beastMaster the majority of your skills should be beastMaster. I, for one, use two other skills not from beastMaster. That being Favourable Winds (interchangable with Read the Wind, of course) and the other being Distracting Shot.
While your pet is attacking causing -7 Degen with Poison and Bleeding as well as hitting massive when the enemy is under a condition and being healed with ease with HaO AND having the advantage of Otyugh's Cry - you can stand back and look out for those skills that the enemy try and use to either heal them selves or whatever. This is my style. Of course, you AND your pet could have an interrupt. It all depends on what you want. cr00mz
and how have you put your attributes?
Chthon
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Originally Posted by cr00mz
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Johnny Madhouse
I believe that the black bear's mauling skill can actually be useful at times, since the introduction of paragon anthems that trigger on use of an attack skill. I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that brutal mauling does count as an attack skill for the purpose of anthems.
cr00mz
the 9 in marksmanship is just for the bow? you dont use any bow attacks?
Chthon
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Originally Posted by cr00mz
the 9 in marksmanship is just for the bow? you dont use any bow attacks?
Yep, it's just so that your auto attacks aren't wasted. You may not be a warrior, but your auto attacks still aren't so trivial as to just discard.
iridescentfyre
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Originally Posted by Johnny Madhouse
I believe that the black bear's mauling skill can actually be useful at times, since the introduction of paragon anthems that trigger on use of an attack skill. I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that brutal mauling does count as an attack skill for the purpose of anthems.
That's true, provided said Anthems affect "allies" instead of just "party members." The following would theoretically be the only options:
[skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill]
[skill]Anthem of Fury[/skill] (would just result in the Bear spamming Brutal Mauling more...)
[skill]Zealous Anthem[/skill] (Bears have little need of energy)
[skill]Anthem of Envy[/skill]
[skill]Anthem of Fury[/skill] (would just result in the Bear spamming Brutal Mauling more...)
[skill]Zealous Anthem[/skill] (Bears have little need of energy)
cr00mz
if the pet skills allready is cheap, then 2-3 isnt really much difference, (in the long run it will be, if you think how much energy/min you save) but in a battle i think you wont get Out of mana since the ranger has 3 arrows of regeneration and pretty low mana pool, it will be regenerated quickly
Chthon
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Originally Posted by cr00mz
if the pet skills allready is cheap, then 2-3 isnt really much difference, (in the long run it will be, if you think how much energy/min you save) but in a battle i think you wont get Out of mana since the ranger has 3 arrows of regeneration and pretty low mana pool, it will be regenerated quickly
They also recharge quickly. The difference between 2e and 3e is often the difference between spamming Enraged Lunge on the recharge for an entire battle and running out of energy and needing to rely on auto attacks while your energy recharges.
Saving 1e off your Enraged Lunge every 5 sec is the equivalent of 3/5 of a pip of energy regen. And that's just one skill. Let's take a example with more skills: Assume you've got 16 BM; and you're using Enraged Lunge, Brutal Strike, Otyugh's Cry, Feral Aggression, and Call of Protection as your often-used, expertise-caring-about skills; and you use everything either on the recharge or when it expires, whichever is longer. For all of those skills, 13 expertise saves 1e over 11 expertise. Now, we prorate that 1e over the each skill's frequency of usage, and we get: (1/5) + (1/5) + (1/30) + (1/21) + (1/120) = ~0.49 e/sec = ~1.5 pips of energy regen. So, for this build, the difference between 11 Exp vs 13 Exp is the same as 3 pips vs 4.5 pips of regen. That's a very big difference (+50%!!), and it only gets bigger the more fast-recharging attack skills you add.
That's why I said that choosing between sup BM, sup Exp, or risking dual sup runes is a tough one.
Saving 1e off your Enraged Lunge every 5 sec is the equivalent of 3/5 of a pip of energy regen. And that's just one skill. Let's take a example with more skills: Assume you've got 16 BM; and you're using Enraged Lunge, Brutal Strike, Otyugh's Cry, Feral Aggression, and Call of Protection as your often-used, expertise-caring-about skills; and you use everything either on the recharge or when it expires, whichever is longer. For all of those skills, 13 expertise saves 1e over 11 expertise. Now, we prorate that 1e over the each skill's frequency of usage, and we get: (1/5) + (1/5) + (1/30) + (1/21) + (1/120) = ~0.49 e/sec = ~1.5 pips of energy regen. So, for this build, the difference between 11 Exp vs 13 Exp is the same as 3 pips vs 4.5 pips of regen. That's a very big difference (+50%!!), and it only gets bigger the more fast-recharging attack skills you add.
That's why I said that choosing between sup BM, sup Exp, or risking dual sup runes is a tough one.
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Maybe you could risk having two Superiors if you use a Sup Vig.. What you guys think?
Lourens
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Maybe you could risk having two Superiors if you use a Sup Vig.. What you guys think?
thats a pretty waste i run mostly minors and have 75hp more (i care more for 75hp then 2 more points in an atribute)
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Yeah, something I never really considered but a good idea. I normally use two Maj. But the minors is an interesting point ^^
Marverick
Except in PvE most PuG casters are tards running around with dual sups, and henches only have 480 health, so having more than them is just meaningless because mobs will just go bash on them.
cr00mz
how is this build.
Call of protection
symbiotic bond
enraged lunge
feral aggression
charm animal
comfort animal
otyhgs cry
some kind of res.
atributes would be
9 marks
12 bm
expertise the rest
note that this is for pve
Call of protection
symbiotic bond
enraged lunge
feral aggression
charm animal
comfort animal
otyhgs cry
some kind of res.
atributes would be
9 marks
12 bm
expertise the rest
note that this is for pve