kindly remove dishonorable
populationcontrol
kindly remove dishonorable, makes it difficult to farm glad points. also its like after playing the game a certain amount of time you can sometimes predict the team is really noob and has no streak or wining future. you really should not be punished for leaving, i realise leaving made the game really boring sometimes but at least up the once an hour to 2 or 3 times in an hour.
Curse You
Farm glad points? Excuse me, when did PvP become PvE?
If you really want to win more, do Team Arenas. Don't come complaining about how you can't win enough because Random Arenas is too random.
Besides, if a team really does suck, they'll loose quickly, and then you get sent back. There's really no good reason for leaving, and there never has been.
If you really want to win more, do Team Arenas. Don't come complaining about how you can't win enough because Random Arenas is too random.
Besides, if a team really does suck, they'll loose quickly, and then you get sent back. There's really no good reason for leaving, and there never has been.
dargon
Yep, the dishonorable flag is just like your nickname, population control, keeps the dicks out or at least in lower numbers.
populationcontrol
yes there is good reason for leaving. when there is a warrior wielding a wand its fairly easy to assume that the team has no future even if you have a monk. a player like that often of no secondary proffesion will drag downs the teams preformance more than a pot head brings down your high schools gpa. and sure this person is likely to die very fast and you will be defeated at a disadvantag (awesome!) but some maps its about getting more kills than other team and you have to wait till match ends. also its like possible to resign, but when was the last time the noob on your team knew how to resign and did resign. this update is only noob friendly because people only leave when theres noobs on your team.
i know as a fact that unless you have 3 people whom are great at the game available at all hours you farm gladiator points in ra. you can deny this all you like but its the case. people who were farming the tittle were appeased cause their ranked doubled.
maybe your the type of player who scared his team into leaving and thats why you love this update.
i know as a fact that unless you have 3 people whom are great at the game available at all hours you farm gladiator points in ra. you can deny this all you like but its the case. people who were farming the tittle were appeased cause their ranked doubled.
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Originally Posted by dargon
Yep, the dishonorable flag is just like your nickname, population control, keeps the dicks out or at least in lower numbers.
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Zahr Dalsk
/signed for removing it
I can tell when I'm in a team that is terrible or when the team may be good but is not going to win, there is no reason to make me wait it out when it is already evident that victory is not possible in a particular situation.
I can tell when I'm in a team that is terrible or when the team may be good but is not going to win, there is no reason to make me wait it out when it is already evident that victory is not possible in a particular situation.
De Wilde
/Unsigned
Here's why:
JUST because you may think you won't win - doesn't mean you won't.
As well as just up and leaving isn't a very nice thing to do, and in turn it is dishonorable.
Yea it may take a while, but you never know until you try. Plus an ounce of protection equates a pound of cure, and I would much rather be able to report the idiots who leave (we had some doing this during AB a while ago actually, after talking mad stuff and making sure that our side would loose after doing some heinously stupid stuff) who do insure victory for the other side.
Not everything can be 50/50 and in this way it'd actually be much easier for you to have better teams in the end perhaps.
Here's why:
JUST because you may think you won't win - doesn't mean you won't.
As well as just up and leaving isn't a very nice thing to do, and in turn it is dishonorable.
Yea it may take a while, but you never know until you try. Plus an ounce of protection equates a pound of cure, and I would much rather be able to report the idiots who leave (we had some doing this during AB a while ago actually, after talking mad stuff and making sure that our side would loose after doing some heinously stupid stuff) who do insure victory for the other side.
Not everything can be 50/50 and in this way it'd actually be much easier for you to have better teams in the end perhaps.
Chris Blackstar
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
yes there is good reason for leaving. when there is a warrior wielding a wand its fairly easy to assume that the team has no future even if you have a monk. a player like that often of no secondary proffesion will drag downs the teams preformance more than a pot head brings down your high schools gpa. and sure this person is likely to die very fast and you will be defeated at a disadvantag (awesome!) but some maps its about getting more kills than other team and you have to wait till match ends. also its like possible to resign, but when was the last time the noob on your team knew how to resign and did resign. this update is only noob friendly because people only leave when theres noobs on your team.
i know as a fact that unless you have 3 people whom are great at the game available at all hours you farm gladiator points in ra. you can deny this all you like but its the case. people who were farming the tittle were appeased cause their ranked doubled. |
Like others have said, go to the TA, form your own team, and shut your mouth, or live with the fact that your are a dishonorable player.
Mister O
Stop messing around in RA if you don't wanna team up with your so-called 'noobs' then, after all RA is for PvP beginners. You are just been irresponsible and wasting everyone time for been a leaver and deserve the 'dishonored' title.
Just go to TA to find your decent group to 'farm' your Glad pts.
Just go to TA to find your decent group to 'farm' your Glad pts.
bilateralrope
Its called Random Arena for a reason. Your meant to go in there and try to make they best of whatever gets thrown your way. Since this is the first PvP most players encounter, you should expect a high level of people who don't know what they are doing.
If you want to farm glad points, get some friends and do TA.
The only exception I would consider is allowing you to leave if your dead and none of your live teamates have a res.
If you want to farm glad points, get some friends and do TA.
The only exception I would consider is allowing you to leave if your dead and none of your live teamates have a res.
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar
It's players like you that caused this update to be in effect, players like you who quit because they don't like what they see, players like you who believe that it's your way or the highway. Players like you make this game a chore and no fun to play.
Like others have said, go to the TA, form your own team, and shut your mouth, or live with the fact that your are a dishonorable player. |
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Originally Posted by bilateralrope
Its called Random Arena for a reason. Your meant to go in there and try to make they best of whatever gets thrown your way. Since this is the first PvP most players encounter, you should expect a high level of people who don't know what they are doing.
If you want to farm glad points, get some friends and do TA. The only exception I would consider is allowing you to leave if your dead and none of your live teamates have a res. |
Mickey
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
i used to know how to get unrandom teams into ra, ive seen other people do it and as far as im concerned most glad farmers used it to get a great deal of there glad points. in fact most people still do, most people i know within game (which are alot). resort to ra because theres not a monk to face every single round. its more fun that way. there are plenty of non begginers in ra whom ahould be taken into account.
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populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk
/signed for removing it
I can tell when I'm in a team that is terrible or when the team may be good but is not going to win, there is no reason to make me wait it out when it is already evident that victory is not possible in a particular situation. |
every single person i meet in ra says this to me.
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Originally Posted by Mickey
Didn't you make a thread just like this a little while ago? I remember saying "this update makes the people who make PvP not fun for casual players in RA like the OP stand out"
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Faer
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
when there is a warrior wielding a wand its fairly easy to assume that the team has no future
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Master Ketsu
/Unsigned for removing dishonour system.
/Signed for revamping it. You should be allowed to leave 3 minutes into a match.
Plus, you never know how good a player is by looking at what they have. For all you know that warrior is only carrying the wand for lulz and will switch it out for a hammar when he actually starts going.
Complaining about n00bs is a terrible reason to defend the act of leaving anyways. If you dont like being teamed with random n00bs then get out of RA and play TA..
/Signed for revamping it. You should be allowed to leave 3 minutes into a match.
Plus, you never know how good a player is by looking at what they have. For all you know that warrior is only carrying the wand for lulz and will switch it out for a hammar when he actually starts going.
Complaining about n00bs is a terrible reason to defend the act of leaving anyways. If you dont like being teamed with random n00bs then get out of RA and play TA..
populationcontrol
actually most wars with sword or axe in pvp attire are terrible. i have yet to meet a good warrior that used a wand. seriously i think its fairly obvious in these occasions that the team mate wont provide any useful assistance. similarly you know you find wars using curses (elites even) and you know deny it all you want the team will not streak thanks to this individual.
Mickey
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
every single person i meet in ra says this to me.
that made no sense whatsoever |
Let me rephrase it for you.
This update makes players, like the OP, who make RA and PvP miserable for casual PvPers, stand out.
knoll
Did you miss the reasons for the update? EL OH EL YOU R BAED?!
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu
/Unsigned for removing dishonour system.
/Signed for revamping it. You should be allowed to leave 3 minutes into a match. Plus, you never know how good a player is by looking at what they have. For all you know that warrior is only carrying the wand for lulz and will switch it out for a hammar when he actually starts going. Complaining about n00bs is a terrible reason to defend the act of leaving anyways. If you dont like being teamed with random n00bs then get out of RA and play TA against players who are actually good aka fun to play against. |
yeah people do like to be funny like that, some times they decide its fun to play with no armor on, haha that is so funny... no. there are circumstances that you shouldnt have to endure.
Mickey
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Originally Posted by knoll
Did you miss the reasons for the update? EL OH EL YOU R BAED?!
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populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by Mickey
Umm, yes it did.
Let me rephrase it for you. This update makes players, like the OP, who make RA and PvP miserable for casual PvPers, stand out. |
RhanoctJocosa
/signed for removing it.
Even though playing without a monk is often more fun/challenging than with, stupid players often spoil any hope of success. Not that I'm too concerned, though, Glad points are incredibly easy to gain in TA with the new system.
Even though playing without a monk is often more fun/challenging than with, stupid players often spoil any hope of success. Not that I'm too concerned, though, Glad points are incredibly easy to gain in TA with the new system.
Mickey
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
seeing as weve never met in game and no one has ever told me this or anything near this its safe to assume that is complete bull shit. sorry.
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Faer
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
i have yet to meet a good warrior that used a wand.
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If you haven't butchered the poor thing, the object of interest should be near the top-left portion.
Find the button that has "F2" printed on it.
Try pressing that button sometime while playing Guild Wars.
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[DE]
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
actually most wars with sword or axe in pvp attire are terrible. i have yet to meet a good warrior that used a wand. seriously i think its fairly obvious in these occasions that the team mate wont provide any useful assistance. similarly you know you find wars using curses (elites even) and you know deny it all you want the team will not streak thanks to this individual.
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That means you totally missed what Faer was saying so to simplify for you....
WARRIOR BASICS AND YOU
Warriors use melee weapons.
Melee weapons cannot attack from range
Without attacking Warriors cannot gain adrenaline (unless they are being attacked, in which case wtfux why aren't they attacking?)
Sometimes Warriors don't want to charge in right at the start but would like to build adrenaline before the fight begins
So how do they do that?
Well Johnny it's quite simple...
Warriors use a ranged weapon, such as a WAND and use it to hit their enemies from a distance
WHY?!?
It's not about the damage it's about gaining adrenaline for an early advantage.
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa
/signed for removing it.
Even though playing without a monk is often more fun/challenging than with, stupid players often spoil any hope of success. Not that I'm too concerned, though, Glad points are incredibly easy to gain in TA with the new system. |
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UPS UR BAED
That means you totally missed what Faer was saying so to simplify for you.... WARRIOR BASICS AND YOU Warriors use melee weapons. Melee weapons cannot attack from range Without attacking Warriors cannot gain adrenaline (unless they are being attacked, in which case wtfux why aren't they attacking?) Sometimes Warriors don't want to charge in right at the start but would like to build adrenaline before the fight begins So how do they do that? Well Johnny it's quite simple... Warriors use a ranged weapon, such as a WAND and use it to hit their enemies from a distance WHY?!? It's not about the damage it's about gaining adrenaline for an early advantage. |
blakecraw
The point of random arenas is so that two random teams of four play against each other each match... If you don't like that setup, don't enter the match. I'm sorry if your epic N/W build (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10176974 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10206056 ) doesn't work in TA, but you're gonna have to learn about spoil victor if you wanna farm glad points.
I don't think any of your threads will stay un-closed for long, and I personally don't think they deserve to.
I don't think any of your threads will stay un-closed for long, and I personally don't think they deserve to.
[DE]
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
REALLY OMG, im guessing maelstorm has a higher strategic purpose too.
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btw, /notsigned [The update actually makes RA worth visiting if you have 15-20 minutes on your hands with nothing to do]
RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
yeah for a streak of 5 maybe but unless you have 3 good players to pull you through ta wins resort to ra. least i do.
REALLY OMG, im guessing maelstorm has a higher strategic purpose too. |
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by blakecraw
The point of random arenas is so that two random teams of four play against each other each match... If you don't like that setup, don't enter the match. I'm sorry if your epic N/W build (http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10176974 http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10206056 ) doesn't work in TA, but you're gonna have to learn about spoil victor if you wanna farm glad points.
I don't think any of your threads will stay un-closed for long, and I personally don't think they deserve to. |
as to getting 20 wins in ta yu have to know other people, the people i do ta with can safely make it to 10 but 20 is a little too far for us. well make 17-18 usually if we try. we always run into these utra long battles of rit healer and monk with assasins (takes forver to beat, sometimes they beat us) so yeah. i need ra to be more accessible thereplenty of people who think this way as well.
Molock
When I see that the team I am in is hopeless (I am monk) I just sit down and watch em' die.. lol
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by The Phantom
Actually I heard it's alot better than meleemancers.
btw, /notsigned [The update actually makes RA worth visiting if you have 15-20 minutes on your hands with nothing to do] |
and many people use ra for gladiator rank, many people just hate not beeing able to leave.
Melody Cross
There's already a thread about this in Gladiator’s Arena. Surely we don't need too epic fail threads on the same topic in guru?
/votetoclose...
and btw: /notsigned Suggest ways to improve dishonor. Calling for removal just makes you look like a poor sportsman that got caught
/votetoclose...
and btw: /notsigned Suggest ways to improve dishonor. Calling for removal just makes you look like a poor sportsman that got caught
populationcontrol
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Originally Posted by Molock
When I see that the team I am in is hopeless (I am monk) I just sit down and watch em' die.. lol
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RhanoctJocosa
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
i have used it in ta (thank you for mentioning how epic it is). the problem is my build and that i dont have 3 other players whom are good on call to win for me in ta. so i resort to ra, where literally everyone i come accross hates the update almost as much as me.
as to getting 20 wins in ta yu have to know other people, the people i do ta with can safely make it to 10 but 20 is a little too far for us. well make 17-18 usually if we try. we always run into these utra long battles of rit healer and monk with assasins (takes forver to beat, sometimes they beat us) so yeah. i need ra to be more accessible thereplenty of people who think this way as well. |
If your team is terrible in RA just click your character onto the other side of the field and alt-tab to something else while you wait for your team to lose. It's always fun to annoy the people who bitch about leavers.
LethalHands
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When I see that the team I am in is hopeless (I am monk) I just sit down and watch em' die.. lol
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Originally Posted by populationcontrol
is this so much better than monk just leaving? think about it (i also do this)
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