OK, looking at the rediculous amounts of money being traded back and forth in the trading forums I kinda have to wonder... looking at my account I never even got over 30K in my storage at any time, and I put every penny I find/merch/trade into it (also taking into account runing out chars/heros saps a lot out), so how do people get to be so filty rich to be able to trade 100k+1500e at all?
Is there some secret quest or Stonemasons group in the background im missing out on?
Get rich (quick or other)?
Rushin Roulette
I Might Avenge U
nope, It normally goes like this...
Farm about 200-300k - Start power Trading - Have lots o' Money..
Really you need to have a decent character or three in order to make money. A forge runner makes on average 10k every 20 minutes if they are constantly running. So technically they could reach over 200k in a day. If they have no life.. Which is quite possible..
Farm about 200-300k - Start power Trading - Have lots o' Money..
Really you need to have a decent character or three in order to make money. A forge runner makes on average 10k every 20 minutes if they are constantly running. So technically they could reach over 200k in a day. If they have no life.. Which is quite possible..
milan
I found myself with very little gold a while ago, no idea where it all went. I didn't power trade or even farm (in the normal sense) my way back up. I simply played the game picking up everything I could.
Everytime I had 10k on a character I put it in storage. Didn't buy anything that I didn't need and threw the decent items into auction or on the forums.
It soons starts to add up.
Everytime I had 10k on a character I put it in storage. Didn't buy anything that I didn't need and threw the decent items into auction or on the forums.
It soons starts to add up.
The Bard
a lot of the people who are crazy rich have been in the game since beta, they've had more than 2 years to collect that kind of money. Farming for money was a lot easier before HM and loot scaling, perfect gold items were harder to come by and therefore worth more money which could mean that you only need one good drop to be rich. it takes time and effort to get insane amounts of money but just playing the game should at least get you enough money to buy one or more sets of elite armor etc, just not a mini kanaxai...
Malice Black
Some of these people got insta rich because of mini-pets, some are old skool traders/farmers, the rest bought gold.
Yang Whirlwind
Getting those PvP chests yields some rather nifty items that you can sell for a lot of ecto.
Furthermore: never underestimate peoples willingness to grind-farm
There has been (and will continue to surface) some very good farming possibilities like: Scimitar farm, Dead Sword farm, Duncan questing, etc.). They are only really worth it for a short time,- then they are either nerfed or prices drop to much to make it really profitable! (f.ex. all the above mentioned money machines are long since dead and buried)
Furthermore: never underestimate peoples willingness to grind-farm
There has been (and will continue to surface) some very good farming possibilities like: Scimitar farm, Dead Sword farm, Duncan questing, etc.). They are only really worth it for a short time,- then they are either nerfed or prices drop to much to make it really profitable! (f.ex. all the above mentioned money machines are long since dead and buried)
Rushin Roulette
hmm, ok, is there any way to get rich "quicker" with any specific char or area? solo farming or 55monking/dervishing/whatever?
Or what Items which can be farmed in a group which give the best money per run (such as rotwingsbow runs or such). This is mainly to help my guild finally get a full hall, and to carry on for the rest of us after the upgrades have been bought.
I have a few old golden chestrun drops (shields mainly), a pair of matching red/green Chaos axes aswell as a few scythes I have lying around I might put into the PC section later then. Maybe one or 2 will be worth a little (and to finally make space and unclutter my storage a little in the process).
Well, PvP may be an option... but Id really need an on the spot tutorial on how to PvP propperly as untill now I have nearly 100% been PvE with a little AB every now and then (found a few builds which suit my taste of play and variety) and have been more or less successfull with the teams I went with.
btw... slightly OT... but why always +ectos and not rubies, chunks of amber( I think) or black dyes as they are nearly always worth more than ectos at the traders?
Or what Items which can be farmed in a group which give the best money per run (such as rotwingsbow runs or such). This is mainly to help my guild finally get a full hall, and to carry on for the rest of us after the upgrades have been bought.
I have a few old golden chestrun drops (shields mainly), a pair of matching red/green Chaos axes aswell as a few scythes I have lying around I might put into the PC section later then. Maybe one or 2 will be worth a little (and to finally make space and unclutter my storage a little in the process).
Well, PvP may be an option... but Id really need an on the spot tutorial on how to PvP propperly as untill now I have nearly 100% been PvE with a little AB every now and then (found a few builds which suit my taste of play and variety) and have been more or less successfull with the teams I went with.
btw... slightly OT... but why always +ectos and not rubies, chunks of amber( I think) or black dyes as they are nearly always worth more than ectos at the traders?
Malice Black
Ecto's are easier to get then Rubies.
erfweiss
Another option is treasure chest hunting in Elona. With multiple characters able to get the chests, it's a quick way to replenish gold (had 10 chars run the quickest two chests in 90 min...replenished 45k).
Roshi_ikkyu
alot would be old school players who just did it when it was go to farm, or just played and picked up 200k, once you have that power trade
jhu
what exactly constitutes "power trading"? is it just buy low, sell high, but with high priced items?
boxterduke
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Another option is treasure chest hunting in Elona. With multiple characters able to get the chests, it's a quick way to replenish gold (had 10 chars run the quickest two chests in 90 min...replenished 45k).
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First 2 times I did it with 7 characters, I got about 25k each character, now I get 5k.
Painbringer
Back in the beginning it was MASSIVE TROLL FARMING EXPLIOTATION! Ah the days of trading worthless junk to a merchant over and over and over. Ah………….Wait a minute………. I am still trading worthless junk to a merchant in Gwen.
quickmonty
First you have to join the Secret Society of Wealthy Players. You must have a sponser and go through a lenghty initiation ritual. You can never mention this to a soul. OOOPS! Guess I'll have to go into hiding now. 
Seriously ..... I've been playing the game since right after release, and I got rich by farming (when it was worthwhile to solo farm). I keep my wealth up by just playing the game now. Most of what I spend now is for runes and stuff for my heroes, and some elite armors to put in my HoM.
Seriously ..... I've been playing the game since right after release, and I got rich by farming (when it was worthwhile to solo farm). I keep my wealth up by just playing the game now. Most of what I spend now is for runes and stuff for my heroes, and some elite armors to put in my HoM.
MikeV
I farmed crap a couple years back for days and traded it to the collector for Peppermint Candy Canes. They were a fun new novelty back then that you could buy and sell for about 50GP each. I quit playing for a year or so (got married and bought a new house) and just now got back into the game. I sold 200 of them last night and now have 130K in storage. Problem is, I don't know what to do with the money now.... Oh well, I guess it's a good problem to have.
badfish34668
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Kusandaa
I always used to get good cash simply farming; I've never felt the need to get into trading and whatnot. I think I'm afraid to lose all my money into trading because I'm AWFUL with prices and well, never really been my thing.
I actually farmed solo for a long while, usually an hour or so a day, before the AI nerf, while doing ToPK runs. Even after the AI nerf I found a new runs, but got bored of solo... which I've been doing until roughly 2 weeks ago. Usually kept 100k+ in storage.
Right now I'm farming DoA, got me around 650k in a week, then blew it all up on a FoW set x]. Trying to get back on cash, but since I don't have all the time I had last week it might be a bit more time before seeing that much cash again.
Plus farming is more fun than trading >_>. I don't complain x]. But yeah, I farm and I have enough cash to suit my needs.
I actually farmed solo for a long while, usually an hour or so a day, before the AI nerf, while doing ToPK runs. Even after the AI nerf I found a new runs, but got bored of solo... which I've been doing until roughly 2 weeks ago. Usually kept 100k+ in storage.
Right now I'm farming DoA, got me around 650k in a week, then blew it all up on a FoW set x]. Trying to get back on cash, but since I don't have all the time I had last week it might be a bit more time before seeing that much cash again.
Plus farming is more fun than trading >_>. I don't complain x]. But yeah, I farm and I have enough cash to suit my needs.
mojave mango juice
A long time ago I got a few nice rares, which paid for a set of Obsidian and kept my Xunlai box happy for a while. Nowadays though, I just do good old farming. Bergen runs paid for my elementalist's obsidian, and now I'm making pretty good money doing dungeons in EotN. And, as people have said before, there's always other elite mission areas, and the Elonian treasures. Farming can be boring (I shudder whenever I look at a dead bow 
), but it can pay off well if you're patient.
), but it can pay off well if you're patient.
Crom The Pale
A freind of mine made insane amounts of cash long long ago when he found a Europe player in international district one day and they discussed the differance in the price of Black Dye between Europe and American servers.
Within a day they both had 1000K and maxed out their storage.
He's been a power trader since then and has an impressive collection of items from dwarven axes, crystalines, torment, elemental swords, mini-pets and much much more.
Myself, ive under 100K in storage now and find that it takes about 2hours to make 5-10K just playing, not counting the odd really nice drop witch are far and few inbetween these days. Since I've nothing really left to spend my cash on its just slowy growing.
Within a day they both had 1000K and maxed out their storage.
He's been a power trader since then and has an impressive collection of items from dwarven axes, crystalines, torment, elemental swords, mini-pets and much much more.
Myself, ive under 100K in storage now and find that it takes about 2hours to make 5-10K just playing, not counting the odd really nice drop witch are far and few inbetween these days. Since I've nothing really left to spend my cash on its just slowy growing.
thunderai
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A freind of mine made insane amounts of cash long long ago when he found a Europe player in international district one day and they discussed the differance in the price of Black Dye between Europe and American servers.
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This is not the case anymore, darn :^)
I just checked each server group and each has the same price for each of the more expensive items. Here I was hoping I could make some quick cash.
oh well.
Kale Ironfist
They changed it to a universal (from region-based) stock back in 2005 IIRC
IslandHermet
Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL.
500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL
any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL.
500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL
any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back
thunderai
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Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL. 500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back |
malko050987
I find that simply working on my Vanquisher or Guardian title will supply me 5k or so per area. Those plats go into cap sigs for my second Elite Skill Hunter title. I never manage to hoard cash, since I keep seeing "WTS [insert name of interesting item here]" and I can't help myself >.>
Linksys
I did hero FFF(fast faction farming) and used the faction to get Urgoz scrolls. I sold the scrolls to the scroll trader and got 750g for each one. So for every 25 hero FFF runs, which gets 10k kurzick faction, I got 3.75k plus another 7.5k(trading 10k faction for 10 scrolls). Runs take about a minute plus there's the portal loading between, so I'd say about 11.25k every 35 minutes. I did this over and over again. The price the scroll traders paid for Urgoz scrolls went down steadily. Now you only get 100g per scroll. But I did a lotta Hero FFF at the right time and built a good income.
After buying Destroyer Cores and getting the Destroyer Gauntlets I still have 770 something K in my storage. Highest I reached was 888k, then got the Cores, Sup Vigor rune(i put sup vigor runes on my gloves), and other stuff. I'm trying to keep the amount of gold I have now consistent. I don't do Hero FFF much anymore because it's repetitive. It still pays good gold but the same amount gets repetitive and it feels like making minimum wage or something. 3.75k and anywhere from 1k to 1.4k more from Amber Chunks(Urgoz scrolls only yield you 100g now). I already get enough of that kind of thinking with the Mcjob(not at McDonalds but the type of job I have) I have in real life so I'm not having much fun doing FFF anymore.
I now find myself doing ss/lb runs with PUG groups now for fun, money, and unid gold items even though the rate of income increase is less and I have the max titles already. But at least I'm killing stuff. I do Snowman cave runs too and now I've been doing Glint's Challenge. The Glint one is not too hard with the right group and I find it easy to sell Cloth Of The Brotherhoods for 3k each.
I think the ninja type mask you get for trading 250 Superb Charr Carvings is the last armor related item I'd want to get. That, the doubt rep points thing this weekend, and hopefully there will be another Halloween event. Then I'll try to take it easy until Wintersday...
Well then there's the bonus missions we get in November. So there is new material coming to GW afterall.
After buying Destroyer Cores and getting the Destroyer Gauntlets I still have 770 something K in my storage. Highest I reached was 888k, then got the Cores, Sup Vigor rune(i put sup vigor runes on my gloves), and other stuff. I'm trying to keep the amount of gold I have now consistent. I don't do Hero FFF much anymore because it's repetitive. It still pays good gold but the same amount gets repetitive and it feels like making minimum wage or something. 3.75k and anywhere from 1k to 1.4k more from Amber Chunks(Urgoz scrolls only yield you 100g now). I already get enough of that kind of thinking with the Mcjob(not at McDonalds but the type of job I have) I have in real life so I'm not having much fun doing FFF anymore.
I now find myself doing ss/lb runs with PUG groups now for fun, money, and unid gold items even though the rate of income increase is less and I have the max titles already. But at least I'm killing stuff. I do Snowman cave runs too and now I've been doing Glint's Challenge. The Glint one is not too hard with the right group and I find it easy to sell Cloth Of The Brotherhoods for 3k each.
I think the ninja type mask you get for trading 250 Superb Charr Carvings is the last armor related item I'd want to get. That, the doubt rep points thing this weekend, and hopefully there will be another Halloween event. Then I'll try to take it easy until Wintersday...
Well then there's the bonus missions we get in November. So there is new material coming to GW afterall.
Mohnzh
I concur with malko concerning vanquishing. 5k per area sounds about right, more if you get a lockpick or tome drop. I blow all my money on lockpicks, though. I probably would have more money if I didn't, but every once in a while I get the elite tome which gets me another 6-8k. Perfect or near perfect weapons I store until I can put the best mods on, then keep an eye open in Kamadan while buying keys. I can usually make one or two sells every third or fourth trip. Did really well last night, selling all my normal tomes and all but one elite, plus lining up a buyer for a weapon in storage. The night before, stood there for thirthy minutes for nada. Nevertheless, three days ago I could only afford to have 4 lockpicks in my inventory. Yesterday I finished the day with 26 and money in the bank. BTW, I don't get to play more than a couple of hours a day.
the_jos
Ok, some general tips here.
- Play as much as possible
- ID every white with a merchant value >= 50 before you merch and every blue/purple/gold
- Play every area in HM as much as possible
- Don't spend gold on things you need
- Play several professions and have them support each other.
Mostly swapping dropped decent weapons to other characters and drops for the Prophecies collectors armor.
When done right, you have a increasing amount of gold each day.
Next step:
- Vanquishing (with some humans to speed things up)
The things above have taken me from 100K to 500K in a couple of months.
Next:
- Farming (teamed or solo)
This is how my guildies get their FoW and rare req9 weapons.
After that, powertrading for the real huge amounts of gold.
Or get lucky and receive a good minipet or rare gold weapon.
- Play as much as possible
- ID every white with a merchant value >= 50 before you merch and every blue/purple/gold
- Play every area in HM as much as possible
- Don't spend gold on things you need
- Play several professions and have them support each other.
Mostly swapping dropped decent weapons to other characters and drops for the Prophecies collectors armor.
When done right, you have a increasing amount of gold each day.
Next step:
- Vanquishing (with some humans to speed things up)
The things above have taken me from 100K to 500K in a couple of months.
Next:
- Farming (teamed or solo)
This is how my guildies get their FoW and rare req9 weapons.
After that, powertrading for the real huge amounts of gold.
Or get lucky and receive a good minipet or rare gold weapon.
Mohnzh
Jos, quick question. Why do you ID whites? Is it because you salvage everything cheaper than 50g?
Malice Black
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Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL. 500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back |
Ctb
You people with your vanquishing must be lucky. I've never made more than 2.5k on a run in HM and it takes so long to do some areas that the plat/hour ratio is usually far worse than what I can do in GWEN.
Malice Black
I generally make 2-5k, depends on if I pick up all my drops or not.
Mohnzh
Ctb, you may be right. Personally, I never had much luck in EotN, but I've been vanquishing areas that have minotaurs and nearly every single one either drops a tusk or 120g. Adds up very quick when there are more than 50 minotaurs plus nearly 100 other monsters. A quick run would be to go HM and just kill the minotaurs around Ice Tooth Cave. That should be pretty good plat/hr, especially if you can go with a smaller than 6-man team.
Griff Mon
Another thing you can do is look at the prices of materials and farm for those. For some reason Scales and Plant Fibers went up in price quite a bit for a while. Keep an eye on the market price of common and rare crafting materials, find out where they drop and farm there.
Ctb
I'll throw in there that I don't normally take humans with me in HM, just heroes and henches. If all goes well, it usually doesn't take too long, but if Claude is in the Crystal Desert, and he chooses to run away from a Sand Drake that's on him because he decided to cast Blood Ritual on someone inside the mob's aggro, thus drawing attention to himself, and then Claude stupidly aggros two different groups of Jade Scarab that promptly touch the whole team to death and DP everyone... well then it takes awhile.
Stupid Claude.
I don't generally get very high quality drops, but if I'm looking for a good, low-intensity run I just do Irontoe's lair. Take about 15 minutes with the dialog and I usually make about 1-2k including the 250g from Kilroy and the 100g ale drop at the end. Plus it helps me stack up on non-class runes like Vitae and Radiant that I can use on other characters and their heroes.
Stupid Claude.
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Malice Black
Yes, Claude is ftl
Only henchies worth using are the 'upgraded' ones in EoTN
Only henchies worth using are the 'upgraded' ones in EoTN
fowlero
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any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back
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I got my money when i first got into farming and running, E/Me smite runs when ecto were 9k and Droks running when they were about 4k. Got me about 500k then i accumulated the rest after HM with tomes and the like until drop rates fell off the board.
IMO Ecto Farming and Droks running are still pretty good ways of making money and arent all that hard to start out in, i prefer using the E/Me Terra tank build myself.
If you got GWEN get doing some dungeons with your guildies, its not even close to a fast way of making money but it'll build up over time, its fun as hell and builds up on those "grind" titles.
Good luck with it!
the_jos
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For example, one white armor that dropped had about 50g value, after ID it was 104. I have seen slightly higher values in the past. Average seems to be between 60 and 80g.
When you ID, the value will never be less than the value.
So you waste 3g max (I think) on each ID.
In the end, ID-in nets gold.
I set my breakpoint on 50g, since I play HM most of the time (un-IDed) drops there are always around that value anyway.
So HM drops always get ID and NM only when above 50g.
On lower valued drops the additional profit seems less.
It could well be that it's worth ID-in above 45 or even 40, but I never tried that.
The same is true for an un-IDed max gold.
Those are around 50g, but after ID might be worth between 200 and 500 gold.
Whirlwind
Honestly just find a good area and farm.... once you can buy a high end item cheap, power trade as was said above. Its time consuming but not too difficult.
Also its not even slightly hard to get up to 100k just killing things and selling your lewts.. or find a green thats worth some cash and farm that. Or do slaver's groups or DoA.
Also its not even slightly hard to get up to 100k just killing things and selling your lewts.. or find a green thats worth some cash and farm that. Or do slaver's groups or DoA.
Linksys
Most I've had in storage is 888k. I could have easily maxed it out at 1000k and I sure as hell am not an ebay-er.
Crom The Pale
I bought my FoW back when ecto was in the 12-14K range, and I've never touched ebay for anthing.
The concept of paying real world money for some pixels I can get just by playing the game is realy stupid.
Most people have more a problem with spending than aquiring gold. If you can get your char and heros to a point where you really do not spend any money on them then your only expense is ID kits and Salvage kits.
Far to many people spend their cash on dyes, ale, runes they use once then replace or equiping heros that they never use. And lets not forget all the weapons people buy, they start with the low end 1-20K blue/purple just to get the skin they like then when they have saved up enough they spend 20-100K just to get what they already have in gold and maybe bost a hp mod from 29 to 30 or drops a req from 10 to 9.
The concept of paying real world money for some pixels I can get just by playing the game is realy stupid.
Most people have more a problem with spending than aquiring gold. If you can get your char and heros to a point where you really do not spend any money on them then your only expense is ID kits and Salvage kits.
Far to many people spend their cash on dyes, ale, runes they use once then replace or equiping heros that they never use. And lets not forget all the weapons people buy, they start with the low end 1-20K blue/purple just to get the skin they like then when they have saved up enough they spend 20-100K just to get what they already have in gold and maybe bost a hp mod from 29 to 30 or drops a req from 10 to 9.