Sin noob need help

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

I have played all classes a good deal except mes and sin. I just created a sin for PvE and have no idea what builds are the FOtM. I would like a couple of ideas for builds using only Factions skills and hopefully those that you can get fairly early on in the game. I want dagger skills to start off with instead of all the A/R using a bow and A/D using a scythe..when I get more comfortable with the class I can play around with those options. I scanned the builds in this forum but most seem to use either skills from other chapters or weapon of secondary classes. TY

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

We eat pancakes [Yumy]

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[skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill] is extremely effective. Tends to be boring, but kicks ass.
If you devote the rest of your bar to get to this combo quickly and to survive, you can go with something like

[skill]leaping mantis sting[/skill][skill]exhausting assault[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]critical defenses[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]impale[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Att:
Dagguer : 12+1+1
critical : 12+1
deadly : 3

Get a pair of zealous daggers, they are needed for infinite chains like this one.
Try to get your health as high as 600 hp using survivors insignaes, and vitae runes where you can. This way the lack of a self heal won't be too much of an issue.


Moebius strike can only be captured by the end of factions, but it's well worth paying 5k for an Elite tome.

b3rt_d4ni3l

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

I myself is a sin noob, so I don't really get what you mean by paying 5k for an Elite tome. What is an Elite tome btw?

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

We eat pancakes [Yumy]

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It's an item that will allow your pve character to get an elite skill.
This skill needs to be unlocked on your account.
There are non-elite skill tomes too.

You can get them playing hard mode.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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mobious striker always works. So deaths beguiling haze sins.

b3rt_d4ni3l

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Utaku
It's an item that will allow your pve character to get an elite skill.
This skill needs to be unlocked on your account.
There are non-elite skill tomes too.

You can get them playing hard mode. hmmm... I have never played hard mode before, at least not that I know of.
So how does this tome differ from the Signet of Capture?

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

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Quote:
Originally Posted by b3rt_d4ni3l
hmmm... I have never played hard mode before, at least not that I know of.
So how does this tome differ from the Signet of Capture? You use it in a town, and a menu opens where you pick a skill, and voilĂ  !

Death By Ketchup

Death By Ketchup

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Canada

Eternal Transcendence [DRMR]

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If you have NF you would want critical agility on your bar also.

b3rt_d4ni3l

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Utaku
You use it in a town, and a menu opens where you pick a skill, and voilĂ  ! Ok, so the advantage would be getting the skill in town as oppose to having to kill the boss first. But if my account has not unlock the skill, would I still be able to get it? I mean none of my character have reach that area where you can cap the Moebius Strike from the boss (forget the name, think its Bramble Everthorn... dunno ). Could I still get it through the Elite tome?

Also another thing is how do you get the Elite tome?
You could also give me a link so that I can read it up myself if you don't fell like explaining...

Thanks for the help so far, Utaku!!!

fleshharvest

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

A/W

Oiy... I'll never understand the logic behind most pve assassin builds. If you want a good build, just pm me in-game and I'll give you a good bar. Name is on the left.

b3rt_d4ni3l

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by fleshharvest
Oiy... I'll never understand the logic behind most pve assassin builds. If you want a good build, just pm me in-game and I'll give you a good bar. Name is on the left. Could you post your build here if you don't mind with the attribute spread as well?
Or you could PM me if you don't feel like posting here because I am looking for a skillbar set that can pretty much bring me through to complete Factions. I only have Factions btw.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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I bet fleshharvest is a troll and doesn't want us to know he's going to torture your mind with mending sins, which he thinks are good builds! Offcourse!

Utaku

Utaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

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Quote:
Originally Posted by b3rt_d4ni3l
Ok, so the advantage would be getting the skill in town as oppose to having to kill the boss first. But if my account has not unlock the skill, would I still be able to get it? I mean none of my character have reach that area where you can cap the Moebius Strike from the boss (forget the name, think its Bramble Everthorn... dunno ). Could I still get it through the Elite tome?

Also another thing is how do you get the Elite tome?
You could also give me a link so that I can read it up myself if you don't fell like explaining...

Thanks for the help so far, Utaku!!! You can get an elite assassin tome form an assassin boss or from a chest in hard mode. Or just buy it, I bought one for 5K two days ago.
To unlock a skill, use pvp rewards (faction points). You can easily get the 3000 necessary points playing arena tutorial (Zaishen Challenge); or just spending some time in Random Arena or even Alliance Battle. When you have 3000 faction, talk to a npc called priest of Balthazar and unlock the elite you want.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Here I got a great sin build<_<
[skill]Mending[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill][skill]Live Vicariously[/skill]and what ever else you want.

IT OWNS ALL<_<>_>*runs*

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

This build is good for every class but this is Assa board, so... no.


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Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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Sephir it was a joke.

Xetelian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Warrior Nation

A/R

[card]Barrage[/card][card]Troll Unguent[/card][card]Sharpen Daggers[/card][card]Critical Agility[/card][card]Way of the Master[/card][card]favorable winds[/card][card]Critical Eye[/card]

You can play around with this for a general premise. A lot of people scoff at the critical barrage builds but when I don't want to be in the fray mobbed by nasties I throw on my sundering bow and bust this out.

Basically I can keep up all enchants and skills as well and spam barrage/bleeding without worrying about my energy. I've tried adding "Dodge This!" but I'm not sure there is synergy with barrage. Also Poison Tip Signet can be added to spread poison to a single target at a time while you aoe bleed, just switch targets around and you'll spread poison too, which is amazing.






Certainly I'm not an Ele, but spreading effects and doing from 30-100 damage averaging around 60ish per 1 second recharge, to 6 targets, adding poison, every 6 second recharge, and not needing to worry about energy is pretty sweet, I find it favorable because it keeps the monks off my back as well.

You can switch in some interrupts too, if you need, switch out what you feel you won't need that run, like favorable winds if you're going to be mowing through faster than you can recast it.

IAS and Winds faster arrow speed make it insanely fast with a longbow or flatbow.



But since you wanted daggers, I'd go with

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Blossom_Farmer

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_PvE_Assaulter