Looking for a Sword Build.

kurokun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/D

Most builds in the stickies are Meh.. |: ...

Looking for a good dps build with some decent damage and able to stay alive in 1v1 or 1v2 situations.. Or PvE doesn't matter..

Equipment

Dreadnought Helm
Sunspear Cuirass
Dreadnought gloves
Dreadnought Legs
Dreadnought Boots

DeadSword
Iridescent Aegis

My account has Prophecies and Nightfall

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

ok so like go cripslash gash some other skills frenzy rush maybe a conjure have a ball gogog

kurokun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/D

Not really helpful..

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Warriors aren't really worth anything without backup so 1v1's or 1v2's you'll almost always lose. Your self heal reaches its efficiency only when you're not being pounded on and not being targeted. Your main goal if you find yourself in a 1v1 is just to kill the other guy as fast as possible, not try to stay alive.
Against casters, [skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill] is good as long as they can't shut you down. If they can then just run away and cry mommy, you can't really do anything about it.
Against other Warriors or Dervs you really need [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill] to win DPS-wise, try to ignore them, have your Monk put Guardian on you to discourage them. Against 'Sins if your Monk is really incompetent to stop a spike then just take [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill] to screw their chain or [skill]Shield Bash[/skill]. Against Rangers just don't bother fighting them.

Sword kinda sucks for pure damage or in PvE without Factions.

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

W/

Compared to builds with Factions skills, the possibilities with only Prophecies and Nightfall don't have the same 'relatively' high DPS (Dragon Slash spam). 1v1 and 1v2 is stupid, as this is a team game, and you'd want a dedicated build for farming.

For damage, your bar should begin with something like this:
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill]

If you're not using another elite, you can replace Sever Artery with Crippling Slash.

For staying alive, you'll want Healing Signet unless you trust your heroes/henchmen. You can also bring hex/condition removal if you want to take up your secondary profession. The rest of the bar then depends on how you want to play.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

dude i told you 5 skills what do you want
the other 3 can be up to you well maybe 2 cause youll want a rez sig hopefully

dont bring heal sig youre only gimping yourslef just trust your monks... srsly how was mine not helpful i gave you more than 50% of your bar do you need someone to feed you 8 skills when you could search a bar yourself? or maybe go into obs mode watch a sword warrior for like 5 min see his bar bring that to pve and still own things?

hand fed gg

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

As previously mentioned, Conjure Cripslash is definately the way to go. My preferred PvE version goes something like this:

[card]Crippling Slash[/card][card]Gash[/card][card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Standing Slash[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Lion's Comfort[/card][card]Conjure Lightning[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

Attributes are something like 16 Swordsmanship, 10 Air Magic, 9 Strength, 2 Tactics. You can drop the Resurrection Signet for another type of rez or replace it all-together. I very rarely use it, and by that I mean when I'm being really reckless or turn around for 10 seconds or so to look at the TV. I've used it once, maybe twice in the whole of GWEN (Norn and EV done so far).

kurokun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/D

Thanks marty, ill give that a shot. @ Kaze.. It's not helpful because all you have was 2-3 skills...

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
ok so like go cripslash gash some other skills frenzy rush maybe a conjure have a ball gogog
that to me looks like 5? or can i not count? also marty gave you sun and moon slash and standing slash

yet i recall:
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
My account has Prophecies and Nightfall and you say thanks to someone who gives you skills in a campaign you dont own?

at that point hes only given you 6 skills omg 1 skill more than me do we see a problem?!?!?!? you thanked someone for giving you 1 skill more than me so am i supposed to give you 75% of your bar before i get a thanks and then throw in two skills that you have no way of getting?!?!?!?!? plz tell me

kurokun

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2007

Mo/D

Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day!

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

one last post and ill stop i guess but yea

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day!
i see you're telling me to go back to school yet as we can see from your above statement

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Your ignorant and want of attention.. we all can see that you dont know the difference between your and you're. maybe we both should go back to school? hows that sound kurokun???

ok gg have fun with your sword bar also if you need more help

12+1+1 swords
10 to element of your choice for your conjure
8 +1 str

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day! The irony... Ohh, how it burns!

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day! Want of attention? Awesome job throwing a random preposition in after a verb, using the incorrect form of "you are," and then telling someone else to "go back to school." His posts were much more intelligent sounding than the trainwreck you just posted. Normally I wouldn't care, but I just can't resist when there's hypocrisy involved.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Thanks marty, ill give that a shot. @ Kaze.. It's not helpful because all you have was 2-3 skills... He gave you the basic idea for the build, what else do you need?

Do you really need someone to spoon feed you everything because you can't figure out anything for yourself?



Although Kaze, not rambling with a run-on would be nice, you know.

And Healing Signet is not trash, if you need to split to chase someone or kill something, which happens very often, it can save you in most situations or at least buy enough time to get help.

jaeharys targaryen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

Picnic Pioneers[asian characters]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day! if you are honestly this impolite and arrogant i beseech you to stop posting
please, stop

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Why does the Warrior class always attract the wrong kind of people?

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Because bad people like hitting things.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kurokun
Just brought factions.. Learn to use " , ".. Your ignorant and want of attention.. Go back to school.. Don't expect another reply from me.. Have a good day! Now thats what I call appreciation *sarcasm*, Seriosuly kurokun, he was just trying to help you and you insult him like that. Sorry you fail bigtime.

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

Why use Gash with Crippling Slash? Doesn't Gash require your target to be Bleeding (not Crippled) to be of any use? I'll go check GuildWiki, but the descriptions for the icons on this page don't mention Bleeding under Crippling Slash...

EDIT: Nevermind... the pop-up description doesn't mention Bleeding, but the full description under GuildWiki does.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
As previously mentioned, Conjure Cripslash is definately the way to go. My preferred PvE version goes something like this:

[card]Crippling Slash[/card][card]Gash[/card][card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Standing Slash[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Lion's Comfort[/card][card]Conjure Lightning[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

Attributes are something like 16 Swordsmanship, 10 Air Magic, 9 Strength, 2 Tactics. You can drop the Resurrection Signet for another type of rez or replace it all-together. I very rarely use it, and by that I mean when I'm being really reckless or turn around for 10 seconds or so to look at the TV. I've used it once, maybe twice in the whole of GWEN (Norn and EV done so far). WHY would you run an elite snare on a Warrior in PvE?
Mobs don't kite in normal mode so it's useless.
In hard mode with the inherent +50% speed boost, even while crippled, if you use Flail you won't be able to catch up to them regardless.

Draginvry

Draginvry

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Underground PvP Society (PVPS)

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
WHY would you run an elite snare on a Warrior in PvE? Check the build again. It's not just a snare. It's a low adrenaline setup for Gash.

Omniclasm

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guild Hall

A/

6 adren isn't really "low"

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

No, but it's either Cripslash or Hundred Blades. Take your pick. It's also more fun than Sever Artery imo. Besides, cripple can be useful at times.

In NM, I go Conjure Cripslash most times, not because it's better than a D-Slasher, but because it's easy enough to not matter. Of course I'd run a D-Slasher if I needed to maximise my damage, but I've found if you can hold aggro to a good extent, it really doesn't matter what elite I'm running.

Seeing as though you've got Factions now, here's a D-Slasher to try out:

[card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card][card]Standing Slash[/card][card]Galrath Slash[/card][card]Dragon Slash[/card][card]"For Great Justice!"[/card][card]Flail[/card][card]Healing Signet[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Draginvry
Check the build again. It's not just a snare. It's a low adrenaline setup for Gash. [skill]Sever Artery[/skill] is a 4 adrenaline and non-elite setup for Gash.

And frankly, [skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill] really suck for PvE.
There's way better ways to deep wound stuff besides using two skills that barely give any +damage, require the target to be bleed-able, and require the target to not die after Sever Artery. [skill]Wounding Strike[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Slayer's Spear[/skill].....


For Dragon Slash, use [skill]Enduring Harmony[/skill] with [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill]. That's 30 seconds out of 45 of near constant +42 damage attacks with ~10% AP or whatever your Strength is.

Or use [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]Brawling Headbutt[/skill][skill]Steelfang Slash[/skill] if you want to spam knockdowns.

[skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill] is a must on PvE warrior builds with 8 or more Tactics unless you have another warrior using it.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
For Dragon Slash, use [skill]Enduring Harmony[/skill] with [skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill]. That's 30 seconds out of 45 of near constant +42 damage attacks with ~10% AP or whatever your Strength is. And if you're going to go down that way, you may as well throw in "Save Yourselves!" for 30 seconds of God Mode

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
No, but it's either Cripslash or Hundred Blades. Take your pick. Hundred Blades is most definitely not more a waste of your elite slot than a more expensive, elite version of Sever Artery with a mostly pointless Crippling side-effect. Given those options, and provided its PvE, I'd definitely take Hundred Blades.. especially in a Conjure build.

But that said, I'd still use Dragon Slash over either one.

KazeMitsui

KazeMitsui

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

pretty sure its all up in yo face

[WHAT]

R/

if i was pveing id just take eviserate for an always deepwound unless i miss or is blocked

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Hundred Blades is a great skill although I can see why some dont like it, with Dragon Slash under FGJ! you attack 5 times ( to get 10a ) then your free to Slash for 30seconds ( minus the time it took to charge DS ), with HB under FGJ! you can instantly gain **At Least** 4 adrenaline, if you manage to hit two foes at once, which is a lot of the time in PvE, you gain **8a** instantly, and yes it may not have the extra damage of DS but I think its mre reliable, you dont have start over if HB misses like you do with DS.
It also works well with a Conjure build, or any build build with some +damage to attacks skills ( Splinter Weapons for example ).

Meh just thought I would argue HB's case a little.

~A Leprechaun~

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KazeMitsui
if i was pveing id just take eviserate for an always deepwound unless i miss or is blocked Deep wound is overrated in PvE, it's much more useful in PvP.

A Leprechaun

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Deep wound is still very effective in PvE, its just not needed.

~A Leprechaun~

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

just bring 'finish him!' if you really want a deep wound.

More save yourselves is key.

blue.rellik

blue.rellik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Melbourne, Australia

None

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by iridescentfyre
Hundred Blades is most definitely not more a waste of your elite slot than a more expensive, elite version of Sever Artery with a mostly pointless Crippling side-effect. Given those options, and provided its PvE, I'd definitely take Hundred Blades.. especially in a Conjure build.

But that said, I'd still use Dragon Slash over either one. Hard Mode

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I sometimes run [skill]Magehunter Strike[/skill], seems very powerfull