Monk Heroes...

Blessed Winds

Blessed Winds

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I live in Panda Land. It's wonderful.

PLU (Panda Lovers UNITED)

Me/Mo

Just PLEASE make them stop healing minions! They waste more mana on the allies that are already dead than the allies that need healing more.

I'm especially sick of those monk NPCs that you have to follow for a mission or quest. Instead of leading the way, they keep healing Olias' flesh golem and I have to send him away.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

actually, i often appreciate this feature, it helps out my MM from sacrificing to death...

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I agree, Tahlkora casting prot spirit and zealous benediction on minions, Mhenlo casting WoH on Fleshie = shipment of fail
Generally, I'd like mre hero customization.
For example, I thought about making Jin my Burning Arrow R but then I thought how would she act with Mending Touch on her skillbar- probably healing party instead of leaving it to monks.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Hahaha, using Prot Spirit on Minions isn't the half of it.

Dunkoro using Infuse Health on a Bone Minion. Now that's priceless.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

You have some cojones to give your hero monk Infuse ;d
I gave em ZB and it's like waste of energy

legion_rat

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

mleh watching a blood necro use blood rit is fun too.

~the rat~

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSephir
You have some cojones to give your hero monk Infuse ;d
I gave em ZB and it's like waste of energy
He doesn't use it too poorly. He heals me nicely enough when I take the initial hit (when I'm a warrior). However it goes downhill once you have minions on the team.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Hahaha, using Prot Spirit on Minions isn't the half of it.

Dunkoro using Infuse Health on a Bone Minion. Now that's priceless.
Laughed so hard at that one. Seriously this needs a fix

/signed with a passion.

[Skye]

[Skye]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Mo/

While it is annoying in battle when they heal the minions, I like it when I go afk for an hour and still have all my minions when I come back

Pyro maniac

Pyro maniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

couldn't find the thread anymore, but using lvl 6 Minions + Prot Spirit + Spoil Victor is nice

Squishy ftw

Squishy ftw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Your backline

W/

/ohmygawdsosigned!!!!!

The first time they cast PS or spirit bond on a dumb minion it's funny, but when they cant even regen their energy because they spend every single bit of it on protting those dumb minions it stops being funny quite fast.

So ye..again.. /SIGNED

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

The thing that proves this is retarded is... They keep healing minions but often they can't keep important NPCs alive.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Troubled_Keeper with hero monks = awesome.


Not.

Ivan Aidrann

Ivan Aidrann

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2007

South Africa

Shadow of the Celestial Eclipse

R/

Ive never had that problem. Sure, my monks do often heal the minions, but not at all to the point where they have any energy problems... Guess my heroes are just a bit more intelligent

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

well i noticed this big time in arborstone where you danika instead of opening the doors she stands there and heals your minions. why put death nova on a heros bar when they are getting healed

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

/signed

Can be a real problem as they will happily blow all their energy on them.

CHunterX

CHunterX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Washington

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak
Hahaha, using Prot Spirit on Minions isn't the half of it.

Dunkoro using Infuse Health on a Bone Minion. Now that's priceless.
You trust Dunkoro with Infuse? You are a brave man.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

Noticed when doing Arborstone with a friend who was a MM that Danika slowed the door opening to heal them. But on my MM I find that whilst my heroes do heal my minions, it's not too bad. I've gone AFK for a minute and come back to find only 1 minion left

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

I'm reminded of the time I failed Nundu Bay because Elder Jonah followed me out of the village to heal my minions and was killed by a Margonite patrol...

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

well. they either heal minions, or don't heal allied npc's, i remember a few times when allied NPC's bled to death because i wasn't on a primary or secondary monk at the time.

And there is a fix to this. don't run a MM, if heroes healing your minions is a problem then you shouldn't run MM and hero monks at the same time.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
well. they either heal minions, or don't heal allied npc's, i remember a few times when allied NPC's bled to death because i wasn't on a primary or secondary monk at the time.

And there is a fix to this. don't run a MM, if heroes healing your minions is a problem then you shouldn't run MM and hero monks at the same time.
Taking no MM cause of hero monks isn't gonna solve things, I was thinking more they heal only players and npcs IN the party list and since minions aren't in the party list that would be a good solution.

- Ganni

Isileth

Isileth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
And there is a fix to this. don't run a MM, if heroes healing your minions is a problem then you shouldn't run MM and hero monks at the same time.
Not taking AI monks + MM isnt a fix. Its a workaround at best.

Fixing it would be stopping monks healing minions.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

i like the hero monk healing the minions because sometime my mm heroes don't have time to heal his own mm and its good he has help.

Maybe an options would be better. Help heal Minions yes/no check boxes

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

This is a tough call cause the 1st and 2nd post are both correct. The AI monks heal the minions too often even using Divine skills on them that one where the next time the hit would be fatal they are healed for X amount of points.

Then the other valid point that they keep the Golem alive and help out the AI MM is a good thing at times.

I run a death nova MM and I would rather the monk(s) not heal them or at least not use DIVINE FAVOR skills if that is possible. Running a death nova AI MM I want the minions to die and only to survive long enough to pop that 105pt damage and 15 seconds of poison on surrounding foes.

So, I'm going to /sign this one. Presently by having minions the AI monks do waste a lot of their energy healing minions and then have none for me or the other heroes/henchies.

Pumkin has the best idea have heal or no heal minions checkbox. Great idea

NerfHerder

NerfHerder

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2010

Im bringing this thread back.

I would say most of the GW community at this point, is tired of our heros and hench wasting valuable energy on meatshields. The current sate of the game doesnt even require minions to be healed, even from the MM. In fact, we WANT them to die. It should be up to the MM if you want your minions to stay alive. I dont mind that they heal allies, they should, just not minions.

Anakita Snakecharm

Anakita Snakecharm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Shining Blade Camp

Nouvel Ordre de Phoenix [MJM]

R/Mo

What would be ideal for me is if their AI could prioritize party members and allies, and heal minions only if primary recipients aren't taking damage. That way in a battle the ones who have to stay standing will be healed and minions can be expended, but if you're AFK and they're just standing around the minions will be maintained.

That may be way too complex for the AI capabilities, though.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

While we are thread necroing, has anyone bothered to observe this closely? As far as I've ever seen, heroes only toss heals at minions if their energy is near full. Otherwise they conserve it for allies.