Do you reckon I can kill a miniature?

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

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DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT A BUG DISCUSSION. THANKYOU FOR YOUR CO-OPERATION.

Now, you've (probably) all heard of certain bugs where miniatures have party numbers or names in outposts. But is it possible that they have health bars too? The never seem to die, but they can be knocked down. Does this mean they can be killed too? I want to try it.

Now, this isn't some quest based on a dream. I came to the conclusion that it might be true after seeing this happen [see images below]. After a little confusion at first, I decided that my miniature must have been experiencing one of the effects my necro was putting on the enemy (I decided this was most likely to be Spiteful Spirit). But this begs the question... if it experiences the effect, can it be killed? Anyone who has noticed this before, has ideas on how it can realistically be achieved, wants to taunt and laugh at me or just wants to be part of this quest, feel free to comment. I really need a plan on how to kill the minipet with minimal time an effort.

Image where it is clear miniature was experiencing effect:

Image where effect is clear:

Touketsu Hasu

Touketsu Hasu

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

At my computer

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No, the only way miniatures could ever be killed was a bug that was recently fixed. (If the miniature was run over by one of the GW:EN dungeon snowballs or rocks, it would die. This was fixed several days ago.)

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

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Has anyone tried it my way though? All you've done is prove that they do obey the game physics in that they can die, which strengthens my belief that this is possible.

*Ninja Edit to reply to below* Nope. It was rhetoric. I was just saying that no-one has tried my way yet, so you can't decide its impossible because 1 way has been nerfed.

Swift Thief

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Aatxe Pirates [YaRR]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvilYak
Has anyone tried it my way though? All you've done is prove that they do obey the game physics in that they can die, which strengthens my belief that this is possible.
That comment is six minutes from your original post. Do you really expect people to yet?

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

back when i had my first miniature, i went to UW. was 55ing the aatxes - pull out my rurik..he started bleeding (dunno how)..so i kept tanking for some minutes, he kept staying alive.

i don't think they can die anymore.

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

I wish they could die. I'd love it.

Solas

Solas

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ireland

Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2

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donk think they can die mainly because of mini panda....
also because it'd be annoyign if they died.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

the elf deserves to die

jmarx2005

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Warlords of Thor

W/Mo

Mini arena FTW?

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmarx2005
Mini arena FTW?
I keep wishing for it, but i really doubt it will happen. The fact we have a panda mini makes me doubt it even more because of the ridiculous don't kill pandas thing.

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

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No bug discussion. Well, discussion around the topic of a bug. What I really need is ideas for a way to kill my miniature. Firstly, I need to find a resilient boss (thinking a monk) that wont be able to kill a guy who is simply bonded, not doing anything. From the sounds of things, this might take a while. So I don't want to be sitting there mindlessly tapping a button. The skill needed is ss (seeing as that appears to work, and I know no alternative. Any suggestions for a boss?

Alternatively, I may try and kill it with signet of lost souls. I'll have to see whether that works. Does anybody know whether there is an animation when the skill hits an enemy? I want to be able to see it happening.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Scar eater might work, he has no hex removal but keeps himslef alive pretty well so long as healing burst deosnt heal the mini O_o.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureEvilYak
No bug discussion. Well, discussion around the topic of a bug. What I really need is ideas for a way to kill my miniature. Firstly, I need to find a resilient boss (thinking a monk) that wont be able to kill a guy who is simply bonded, not doing anything. From the sounds of things, this might take a while. So I don't want to be sitting there mindlessly tapping a button. The skill needed is ss (seeing as that appears to work, and I know no alternative. Any suggestions for a boss?

Alternatively, I may try and kill it with signet of lost souls. I'll have to see whether that works. Does anybody know whether there is an animation when the skill hits an enemy? I want to be able to see it happening.
But lets see... ideas for how to kill a mini. Presumably, they are all a seperate "creature" in GW. Maybe EoE will affect them (if you can somehow kill one of them, you could kill many of them to test this out and confirm it more easily).

jezz

jezz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

R/

i want a /kick...so i can kick rurik like a football all the way across other side of LA watch him come running back...then kick him again...man i would have so much fun

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by jezz
i want a /kick...so i can kick rurik like a football all the way across other side of LA watch him come running back...then kick him again...man i would have so much fun
We should have competitions to see who can kick the furthest.

Unlucky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2007

Unforgiven Outlaws [swag]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by jezz
i want a /kick...so i can kick rurik like a football all the way across other side of LA watch him come running back...then kick him again...man i would have so much fun
Do I hear a new mini game coming?
"Step right up, step right up! See who can kick their mini-pets the furthest! Winner gets an ecto!

(Note, due to scaling issues you will in fact not receive a Glob of Ectoplasm, but in stead a hilarious white unmaxed item from our new expansion, Guild Wars: Eye of the North!)

Anyway...Personally, I'd rather my minis not dying...I like watching my pig walk through lava or my elf getting stepped on by a Carag and trotting out unharmed. Whether or not you CAN kill one? I'd say no...'course, I'd love to be prooved wrong.

immortius

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

You can't kill them. Their health is over 9000.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

put them in the trash bin and click yes

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

Ok this is something VERY similar I think. Everyone knows those cows out in the starter area in noob-island factions? Well I deathly swarmed (or something) a Mantid and it HIT THE COW. The cow gained a red health bar and ran around like CRAZY for 10 minutes.

I believe if you did a scrimmage with someone and SSed them, a Monk, they took out their mini and spammed self-heals until SS would technically have killed them, perhaps the mini will die?

Also worth trying; do this for a while then get the Monk to Heal Area to see if the mini is healed also.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlayer
Ok this is something VERY similar I think. Everyone knows those cows out in the starter area in noob-island factions? Well I deathly swarmed (or something) a Mantid and it HIT THE COW. The cow gained a red health bar and ran around like CRAZY for 10 minutes.
I remeber killing those cows with pre nerf cyclone axe, just needed to trap them to stop them running . I wonder if it would have hurt minis O_o.

You can't see me

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by immortius
You can't kill them. Their health is over 9000.

And I wonder how many Hitpoints Abbadon has in Hard Mode.... I know Shiro in Imperial Sanctum has 6,300 about.

(My point being that 9000 hitpoints is not equal to invincability)

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by You can't see me
And I wonder how many Hitpoints Abbadon has in Hard Mode.... I know Shiro in Imperial Sanctum has 6,300 about.

(My point being that 9000 hitpoints is not equal to invincability)
He was referencing an internet meme. Search Youtube for 'Over 9000'.

OP: So, were you accidentally putting SS on it or was it the enemy necros? Heres an idea, try going to factions and getting the chalice of corruption(or something like that) quest - the one that gives you a permenant degeneration in explorable areas. Might be applied to your mini as well.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

dunno about minis but togo spirit-rifted a buffalo to death once.
I killed the rest with eternal aura :P

PureEvilYak

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
He was referencing an internet meme. Search Youtube for 'Over 9000'.

OP: So, were you accidentally putting SS on it or was it the enemy necros? Heres an idea, try going to factions and getting the chalice of corruption(or something like that) quest - the one that gives you a permenant degeneration in explorable areas. Might be applied to your mini as well.
No, I don't think that would work, people would have noticed by now that their mini had a "diseased" look on them.

I think my mini was getting hit by the effect of SS when my enemies activated it by attacking with SS from my hero on them. You know, how it hits all enemies adjacent to foes?

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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They are invulnerable, so the only real chance you have is Vampiric Spirit spam. Good luck getting that set up against an enemy with VS lol.

WhiteWasabi

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

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Here is a PIC of a DEAD MINI GWEN!

This is MY PIC that I also put on the official wiki. This was during the preview weekend for EOTN. At the time ANY mini could be killed by a snowball. We killed a mini gwen and a mini naga. Makes you think about the whole killing mini panda thing.


Kyp Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Lack of Talent [Luck]

P/

omg u killed a little kid!
isnt child violence in games banned in several countries?

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

DEAD GWEN?!?!?!?! The horror!

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by immortius
You can't kill them. Their health is over 9000.
only on US servers.

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

ヽ(??ー`)ノ

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWasabi
Here is a PIC of a DEAD MINI GWEN!

This is MY PIC that I also put on the official wiki. This was during the preview weekend for EOTN. At the time ANY mini could be killed by a snowball. We killed a mini gwen and a mini naga. Makes you think about the whole killing mini panda thing.


Oh god, her eyes are staring right into my soul! Make it stop!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Well, I wonder if they even bothered CREATING animations to kill a panda since it so legally controversal.

WhiteWasabi

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Well, I wonder if they even bothered CREATING animations to kill a panda since it so legally controversal.
I would be willing to bet the animation is the same as a DEAD BEAR but with the skin of a panda. So yes it is probably in the game.

angmar_nite

angmar_nite

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

[SNOW] of [YUM]

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Gwen wears leggings? this game was out before those were fashionable.

YunSooJin

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Phoenix I
DEAD GWEN?!?!?!?! The horror!
more like incredibly unrestrained joy.

*sheds a tear of joy*

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

HAHA I am so making that picture of gwen an avatar lol

WhiteWasabi

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

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Good idea. I am going to do that also seeing as it was my pic.

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

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Oh my God, they killed Gwenny! You bastards!