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PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

20 Oct 2007 at 21:30 - 1

Why have Anet once again (pseudo-)nerfed a perfectly good ranger skill. I was thinking before GW:EN was released, "Hmm? Dungeons with especially difficult bosses? I can see everyone wanting a broad head arrow ranger in the harder missions!" But no. You can't physically daze dungeon bosses (tried this on Murakai and Fragment of Antiquities, do correct me if I'm wrong). I know I can find teams with hundreds of different builds, but I hate the way that Anet continually prunes us so that we have to play certain things to succeed.

Scary Raebbit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

20 Oct 2007 at 21:46 - 2

Was this recently? Cause I dazed the Fragment and Muraki a week ago, but haven't gone to kill Muraki in a couple of days.

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

20 Oct 2007 at 21:49 - 3

Yeah, i dazed Murakai 2 weeks ago when I fought her, if I remember correctly. With the same skill. But those two were today and yesterday.

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

20 Oct 2007 at 22:58 - 4

Murakai can be dazed; however it has 1/2 condition duration so with 16 Marks and a Silencing String, daze will only last 14 seconds. T

Fragment of Antiguities is daze-able... no 1/2 conditions either.

PureEvilYak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Somewhere Luxon Alignment: Chaos

The Dark Fortress

R/

20 Oct 2007 at 23:03 - 5

Huh. Well, if that is the case, I must have a bug, as Broad Head Arrow didn't even give them the condition sign (I know about the 1/2 condition).

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

21 Oct 2007 at 00:16 - 6

I daze Murakai regularly, yet I don't use BHA. I use this build:

[wiki]Sloth Hunter's Shot[/wiki][skill]Concussion Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Prepared Shot[/skill][skill]Throw Dirt[/skill][skill]Read the Wind[/skill][wiki]Ebon Battle Standard of Courage[/wiki][wiki]Light of Deldrimor[/wiki]

Light of Deldrimor is very optional.

Daze her all the time, without fail.

anshin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

22 Oct 2007 at 17:00 - 7

My Jin always dazes Murakai.

Monk of Myrodin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Mo/

22 Oct 2007 at 19:30 - 8

The "bug" you might be getting is if you use BHA as your first attack, Murakai sometimes moves before being hit by it which allows her to dodge it. So try doing one normal attack then use BHA.

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

22 Oct 2007 at 20:41 - 9

End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode.

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

22 Oct 2007 at 20:42 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode. Oh wow, hardcore.

anshin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

23 Oct 2007 at 09:49 - 11

Now i want to see who can beat Magmus... Omg, has anyone beat Frostmaw?

I usually Pin Down Murakai while Jin hits BHA and my Olias minions bodyblock her... Perhaps this has something to do with it. :P

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

24 Oct 2007 at 08:04 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode. Hey Ensign, I tried to track down some more information about this ... I couldn't find anything yet. Was that a secret update while they implemented Hard Mode for EotN?

I assume the information comes from testing, is there any other source you know?

Thanks a bunch for the info, very intresting,
Timebandit

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

24 Oct 2007 at 23:00 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

End dungeon bosses are immune to blind and daze in hard mode. What? That would be like breaking the game on purpose! You can't make a skill and tell me that in HM I can't daze or blind bosses...

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, I'm just saying that would be a horribly wrong curve to throw at players. I would never be in HM if they did that. Cheating because you're the programmer doesn't make it fair. It's still cheating!

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

24 Oct 2007 at 23:06 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkpower Alchemist

What? That would be like breaking the game on purpose! You can't make a skill and tell me that in HM I can't daze or blind bosses...

I'm not saying you're wrong or right, I'm just saying that would be a horribly wrong curve to throw at players. I would never be in HM if they did that. Cheating because you're the programmer doesn't make it fair. It's still cheating!

Oh noes! Hard mode is hard!

... wait... something's not adding up...

Charr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2007

W/A

03 Nov 2007 at 21:00 - 15

WTF are you talking about???
I did Shards of Orr in HM a couple days ago and BHA from Zho worked just fine on both Fendi Nin and Soul of Fendi Nin.