PvE Assassin
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
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I want everyone to stop helping/giving advice to Quaker, he's an ignorant little know-it-all who tries to manipulate the english language so that in the end he's always right.
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I only consider it as important as what works, works for you, and what you enjoy playing.
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2. Some of the people who are trying to help or add to the discussion, are not very good at expressing themselves in written language. (Blame it on the education system if you like.)
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Originally Posted by Wyat Hawke
Wow... Coloneh, I would like to apologize...
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Bowstring Badass
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No Mokone won this thread on the 1st page lol I take it you didn't read it?
Quaker
To those who are simply reading this forum:
My Assassin is not my main character. It's about fifth in the rank of xp/hours played (but it is the 3rd character I'm taking through EoN). My Assassin has (at this time) 1,085,515 experience points. It's been through (the main story line) all three campaigns and done many non-primary quests (did all of Factions). It's also been through the Furnace. During Nightfall, I was using basically the same build as posted here, except Jagged Strike instead of Sneak Attack, and Viper's Defense instead off Death's Charge. (Just never got around to replacing Viper's )There were never more than 4 humans in the party, much of it, including the 2 final missions was done with H&H (me +heroes+henchies).All that I've done so far in EoN has been H&H (about half) The point of all this? Regardless of what some twits on here keep saying, the build obviously doesn't suck - it may not be the "leetest" but it doesn't suck either. And, obviously, I have some idea of what I'm doing. TTFN - Quaker
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Quaker
To those who are simply reading this forum:
My Assassin is not my main character. It's about fifth in the rank of xp/hours played (but it is the 3rd character I'm taking through EoN). My Assassin has (at this time) 1,085,515 experience points. It's been through (the main story line) all three campaigns and done many non-primary quests (did all of Factions). It's also been through the Furnace. During Nightfall, I was using basically the same build as posted here, except Jagged Strike instead of Sneak Attack, and Viper's Defense instead off Death's Charge. (Just never got around to replacing Viper's )There were never more than 4 humans in the party, much of it, including the 2 final missions was done with H&H (me +heroes+henchies).All that I've done so far in EoN has been H&H (about half) The point of all this? Regardless of what some twits on here keep saying, the build obviously doesn't suck - it may not be the "leetest" but it doesn't suck either. And, obviously, I have some idea of what I'm doing. TTFN - Quaker Pve is easy, so what? On topic - no, silly people! I won this thread just by being here. Say all you want, my avatar is cute, and therefore wins. Logic rules. In your collective faces, Mokone, Coloneh and... that other dude
Bowstring Badass
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Pve is easy, so what?
On topic - no, silly people! I won this thread just by being here. Say all you want, my avatar is cute, and therefore wins. Logic rules. In your collective faces, Mokone, Coloneh and... that other dude
What other dude? Me? ;P
Mickey
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Originally Posted by Quaker
To those who are simply reading this forum:
My Assassin is not my main character. It's about fifth in the rank of xp/hours played (but it is the 3rd character I'm taking through EoN). My Assassin has (at this time) 1,085,515 experience points. It's been through (the main story line) all three campaigns and done many non-primary quests (did all of Factions). It's also been through the Furnace. During Nightfall, I was using basically the same build as posted here, except Jagged Strike instead of Sneak Attack, and Viper's Defense instead off Death's Charge. (Just never got around to replacing Viper's )There were never more than 4 humans in the party, much of it, including the 2 final missions was done with H&H (me +heroes+henchies).All that I've done so far in EoN has been H&H (about half) The point of all this? Regardless of what some twits on here keep saying, the build obviously doesn't suck - it may not be the "leetest" but it doesn't suck either. And, obviously, I have some idea of what I'm doing. TTFN - Quaker This is like Population Control in the necro forum, if only Stormlord Alex were here....oh wait. Cute avatar, although it doesn't affect how I look at you at all
Stormlord Alex
Someone called for me?
Oh, righty. Naw, not quite yet, young apprentice... the kittens are drawing nigh but... no, not today. The omens aren't right, okey? And Bowstring? I left it purposely ambiguous... Anyone can include themselves there So, yes... you, hunni... ok?
Chicken Ftw
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at this thread. Maybe laugh until I cry.
Edit: I still love Alex. Needs new avatar though.
Mickey
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
Someone called for me?
Oh, righty. Naw, not quite yet, young apprentice... the kittens are drawing nigh but... no, not today. The omens aren't right, okey? And Bowstring? I left it purposely ambiguous... Anyone can include themselves there So, yes... you, hunni... ok?
Definitely not an apprentice to the cat lord of w/e, idk, but let's turn this thread into a Post Your Cute Cat Pictures!
SotiCoto
Quaker...
Flashing Blades is just a placeholder until you can get better Elite Skills. Explanation: If you're doing enough Critical Hits, you can get the same effect from Critical Defenses... which maintains itself as long as you're in combat. Unless you're using some sort of other abstract energy management (an example of which to be mentioned shortly), you should be running high Critical Strikes, which with high Dagger Mastery should result in plenty of critical hits. The only real worthwhile PvE Assassin Elites are: [skill]Moebius Strike[/skill] - Repeatable Death Blossom or Critical Strike FTW. [skill]Assassin's Promise[/skill] - Instant skillbar recharge and a large energy chunk with reasonable Deadly Arts pointage (doesn't require high Critical Strikes). [skill]Way of the Assassin[/skill] - Usually when you're using Way of the Master and a non-sin weapon. The others are generally not worth it. Flashing Blades is only useful until you can use Critical Defenses properly. Shattering Assault has limited usability in certain areas (as does Dark Apostasy similarly). Temple Strike and Beguiling Haze likewise have limited usability.
moko
give it up Soti, it's a plus one thread nao.
pluuuuuuuuuus oneeeeeeeeeeeeeee +1
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Mokone
give it up Soti, it's a plus one thread nao.
pluuuuuuuuuus oneeeeeeeeeeeeeee +1 Yeah.... sorry about that. I don't tend to bother going past the first page on threads like this. The really sad thing is that I remember a time when I was fairly like Quaker.... though not quite THAT bad. I used to use Flashing Blades, but I gave up as soon as I got Assassin's Promise (and then proceeded to complete all three campaigns with a rather weak Assassin's Promise build and no IAS... though admittedly it sorta rawks in Nightfallen Jahai)... It also reminds me of a time when I was constantly promoting Illusionary Weapon Sin stuff.... I used to use that everywhere.... and people criticised me for it, and I stubbornly insisted that it still worked well. Funny thing is that now I have an IW build with the Banana Scythe, Booze and Drunken Master.... and it works BETTER... but I only use it for a laugh sometimes (because there are few things funnier than rampaging around drunk with the Banana Scythe). Quaker will learn eventually. He WILL try using Critical Agility the way it was meant to be used some day (as I did).... and he will see the light. ^_^
Quaker
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Quaker will learn eventually.
He WILL try using Critical Agility the way it was meant to be used some day (as I did).... and he will see the light. Actually, no, that's not likely. As I said, I was only playing the Assassin to get a Mask of the Mo-Zing, which I've done. I've since decided to take it through EoN's main story line, which is almost finished. Then I plan to go back to one of my usual characters and tuck the Assassin away again. Unless there's some other expansion released and/or some other reason to dust her off again, it will probably be the last time I use her, since GW2 will be a whole new thing. Btw, I appreciate the sensible manner of your original reply to my OP. Too bad more people on here can't be more mature. --------[]
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Quaker
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Fair enough... though note that quite a few of us that frequent this particular board have Assassin Main-Chars (myself included), and we take the playing of the class rather seriously. That you simply dismiss it in such a way is rather disrespectful... whether or not you are a Ranger-Main.
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Btw, I appreciate the sensible manner of your original reply to my OP. Too bad more people on here can't be more mature. --------[]
Thanks... though I might note a few things: #1. There is more to maturity than merely language used the tone it is expressed in. There are a great many awkward nuances to the conveyance of information that can be considered reasonable or unreasonable depending on the circumstances. #2. .... Frankly I think they're all ridiculous personally. I pride myself on generally being rather immature, despite likewise being verbose and somewhat of a grammar-nazi from time to time. Maturity is overrated. I settle for just trying not to aggravate people (though it just seems to happen around me sometimes).
Quaker
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
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I do (and will) however dismiss those people who simply reply to a posting with stuff like "OMG you must suck, you're not using <my favorite skill>"
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Some people are convinced you are doing the same. I'm not. I believe you are just giving them as you see them giving to you... which sometimes can just make things more awkward, whether justified or not.|
you probably wouldn't think much of my Ranger's build (which generally relies on Barrage, Never Rampage Alone, and a Dire Flamingo)
Sounds similar to mine. (I spent some time trying to look up the "Dire Flamingo" skill until I noticed you said "a" Dire Flamingo. - I have a hearty Rainbow Pheonix atm, but I admit it's just for show, the dam thing is big and ugly.) Quote:
You deal with things more systematically than I'd expect from a neurotypical, and maintain the same sense of objective vision while still actually being subconsciously biased much as I am.
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Quote: 4. What occured to me today has to do with both #3 above and what I said earlier about always thinking in extremes (leet vs sux). It's that, many of the responders on here seem to take any discussion of why or why not a person would use a weapon/skill/build etc., as a discussion of which is "best". In this particular case, if I say I don't use a skill - for whatever reason - they take that as meaning that I don't think the skill is good or that I think that some other skill is "better". People also insist on weapons being perfectly max damage, 15^50, +30hp Fortitude. They are perfectionists, and won't settle for things merely being "alright" or "good" when there are "great" builds available. It is a fairly common mentality around here, but in some respects it isn't entirely unjustified. More is always better, and it is only by choice that we settle for less.
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If you fall into group #3 - I can only clarify that I did not post that build on here to get "help". This is not because I think the build is great or can't be improved. It's also not that I think I'm so great, I don't need any help. No, it's just simply what I said - I wasn't asking for help, I was actually just simply posting it. There are two reasons why people post builds here: Either to #1. Get help improving it... or #2. Help others by getting them to use it. More people seem to be assuming you're going for #2 than #1, and are objecting because, compared to other builds out there, the one you post is of lesser functionality... which might suggest you are trying to distract people from using "better" builds. It is a somewhat convoluted line of thinking, but that is my estimate of what is going through their subconscious. Quote:
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