[Luxons] and [kurzicks] ... Why the hate?

Bankai

Bankai

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bubblegum Dragons

Mo/E

Because the only place where you can get away with flaming and trashtalking is AB.

Before the report function, I loved to shout random phrases and see how the other team would react to it.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

I spent 2 entire AB sessions fading it out with chuck norris jokes and facts before anet used its ultimate judgement on me.... Error 7

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

For some people, it's just harmless trash talking, like calling out that pack of musclehead scholarship-whoring retards playing football at USC.

Other people actually believe it, and they're idiots.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
because its natural to dislike your enemies, and the game pitches 2 sides against each other. you can call it role-playing if you want



Yeah, that's what I thought it was too.
Me three. It's natural to taunt an otherwise get the opposing team angry at you and out of focus. I guess some of you have never played football or the like where mouthing and taunting goes on constantly. Sounds like some people been playing in bowling leagues too long. lol

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

It kills me when they yell "Are you Kurzicks/Luxons so scared to fight us?" when they are just miss the first 30 sec of queue time.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Yeah it's kinda like going to Medieval Times, if anyone's been there. Or a wrestling event and booing for the bad guys, even though you still get their autographs afterwards. But I can see that some people take it really seriously. I even recieved a guest invite from someone to challenge me to a one on one PvP thing and sending me aggressive whispers. It was like online road rage. I hardly even said anything in local chat during the battle.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

On a related note, I ran across an old friend today from playing Fort Aspenwood, and we talked about other old faces from there. I'm glad I don't play much AB, because it doesn't sound like people are remembered as much or people switch sides as often.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

I don't encounter too much Luxon-Kurzick hate. What I have noticed though, more and more, are Assassins swearing at people and calling them Cowards for kiting. Seems to be happening more these days...though there seems to be an increased number of assassins, to both sides. It's not Alliance Battles any more, its Assassin Battles.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Whenever I've AB'd (not so much these days), I've tried to discourage that kind of language on the Kurzick side. It really is unnecessary, but it is part of the same general mind-set that turns PvPers in general into aggressive, confrontational arseholes.
More often than not though... my "Hug a Luxon" project, involving trying to get everyone on the Kurzick side to be kind and supporting to the Luxons.... usually either falls on its face completely, or results in a LOT of patronising going on. The latter, at least, is amusing......



Okokok... so I actively encourage Kurzicks to be patronising rather than childishly offensive.
But that'd only be because the Luxons turned to a life of piracy because they never had healthy, stable, loving homes to grow up in... and it is better to encourage them to reform than to chide and attack them for all that has happened to them.
^_^;;

iriyabran

iriyabran

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

[Lord]

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people who take this seriuosly should go see a doctor
it's one thing to joke other to plainly hate and curse the players on the other side because of some game faction

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
I don't encounter too much Luxon-Kurzick hate. What I have noticed though, more and more, are Assassins swearing at people and calling them Cowards for kiting. Seems to be happening more these days...though there seems to be an increased number of assassins, to both sides. It's not Alliance Battles any more, its Assassin Battles.
Which is party why i avoid AB withsome of my casters, since at LEAST 40% of each side is made up of assassins, supporting the theory that most of the verbal abuse thats thrown around AB is from the people that play the profession.

Now dont get my wrong, i am no hater of assassins (or kurzicks, really), i'm a hater of the people that play the profession. The emotes after the 1,2,3,4,5 combo and the verbal taunts are what really nibbles at you.

I'm sure if they disallowed lead attacks, off-hand attacks and dual attacks from being placed next to each other in the skillbar, things would be different .

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
But that'd only be because the Luxons turned to a life of piracy because they never had healthy, stable, loving homes to grow up in...
^_^;;
Hey hey. My home was a giant turtle shell. You don't get much more "stable" than that.

Roof mounted cannon ftw.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
Hey hey. My home was a giant turtle shell. You don't get much more "stable" than that.

Roof mounted cannon ftw.
Mine was a tree.... made of rock. =P
It doesn't move.
It doesn't change.
It is the bastion of stability.

And it is cannon-proof. ^_^

Come on Luxon. We know you want a blue cape really. You're just afraid of being rejected again. We Kurzicks won't do that though. Family is important to us.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Whenever the Luxons are winning and they are getting happy about beating us, I politely explain my theory for this. It's that so many Luxons are tired of losing so they join the Kurzicks hoping to start winning. But because they are former Luxons, thus bad at AB, the effect is that they hold us back in battle so sometimes we lose. Boy that really gets to them heheheh.

silara_jorinset

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

AoFT

E/Me

I just find the whole "OMG Kurzicks are mobbing, all they do is mob" stuff like its the ultimate strategy quite funny. If people would avoid it and cap rather than charging at it, its an easy win.. In terms of Kurzick/Luxon rivalry I don't take it seriously, more a fun roleplay thing at the start of an AB "e.g. Turtle loving scum, how dare you invade the echovald!" (followed by gl, hf )

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys
Whenever the Luxons are winning and they are getting happy about beating us, I politely explain my theory for this. It's that so many Luxons are tired of losing so they join the Kurzicks hoping to start winning. But because they are former Luxons, thus bad at AB, the effect is that they hold us back in battle so sometimes we lose. Boy that really gets to them heheheh.
I just point out that the top Kurzick folks are FFFing, because the option is there... so that leaves only the newb Kurzicks who don't know how to FFF in the battle area.

Then again, since I've discovered how to Luxon FFF and made a thread about it in the farming board, the gypsy-pirates don't have any excuse not to do it now.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys
Yeah it's kinda like going to Medieval Times, if anyone's been there. Or a wrestling event and booing for the bad guys, even though you still get their autographs afterwards. But I can see that some people take it really seriously. I even recieved a guest invite from someone to challenge me to a one on one PvP thing and sending me aggressive whispers. It was like online road rage. I hardly even said anything in local chat during the battle.
That happened to me, I gave them there dual on my PvP ranger, I won.

"ZOMG SUXON HAXER!!"

And one thing, it always seems to be the Kurzicks with bad manners when I AB. Like if we lose, we say gg and get over it, Kurzicks go physco at us, but that's probably because I play with my guild.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly Herro
And one thing, it always seems to be the Kurzicks with bad manners when I AB. Like if we lose, we say gg and get over it, Kurzicks go physco at us, but that's probably because I play with my guild.
And you're already succumbing to it.

Afterall, I saw exactly the opposite: a whole load of abuse from Luxons.
After a while watching though, I saw it was about equal on both sides of the board.... and for that matter I WAS spending my time trying to get the Kurzicks to be nicer to the Luxons.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly Herro
And one thing, it always seems to be the Kurzicks with bad manners when I AB. Like if we lose, we say gg and get over it, Kurzicks go physco at us, but that's probably because I play with my guild.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
And you're already succumbing to it.

Afterall, I saw exactly the opposite: a whole load of abuse from Luxons.
After a while watching though, I saw it was about equal on both sides of the board.... and for that matter I WAS spending my time trying to get the Kurzicks to be nicer to the Luxons.
Thats because you really only notice the insults/taunts from the others (sort of like turning a blind eye). As far as I can see both sides are being let down by 12 year old 12345 narutards trading bad words with each other to use later if/when needed.

Although Im always bashing sins... there are quite a few skilled ones out there (that can regularily and easily whop my ass ) who know how to work in a team and are polite.... so not every sin=retard.... but seemingly 90% retards are sins

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
Although Im always bashing sins... there are quite a few skilled ones out there (that can regularily and easily whop my ass ) who know how to work in a team and are polite.... so not every sin=retard.... but seemingly 90% retards are sins
Seems about 50/50 with the Wammos from what I've seen.... but then everyone knows that Wammos are generally likely to be idiots.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Then again, since I've discovered how to Luxon FFF and made a thread about it in the farming board, the gypsy-pirates don't have any excuse not to do it now.
Yarr, the sea be high, sez I.

Erm, I mean, I'd prefer AB to FFF...there's something oddly addictive about monking in AB.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

You know, if it wasn't for the random insults that players from each side throw at each other I'm pretty sure that the Great Houses and the Armadas would have agreed to a ceasefire and drawn up a peace treaty by now

But where would the fun in that be?

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

For the most part, people in general (no matter what age) are immature, rude, and sore losers. Even the most mature players occassionally sink to the level of everyone else in AB (and various other places). I know I've gotten into my fair share of AB 'harrassment', but I normally simply can't resist the smartass remark that pops into my mind after someone says or does something really stupid; its just how I am. ^.^

Some of the time the comments are ment in good fun, most of the time it's simply because people tend to be overly competative. They feel their side is better, they're pissed because they are losing, or they might just be an asshole plain and simple. If it bugs you too much, just turn off local chat. I simply enjoy watching the stupidity because I get a good chuckle.

Rushin Roulette

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

Actually what I miss the most are comments durign the fighting such as "n1" or "lol" (in a friendly fassion such as you were just surprized by a second player comming in behind you) or even "nt".

I throw them out every now and then if I just lost or won a particularily hard and evenly matched fight... but I never saw anyone else typing these simple 2 or 3 letter abreviation remarks. In the end its just a game and you have to tremember that real squishies (humans) are sitting in their rooms doing the same as you are.


@ Sotico yea, 90% sins and 50 % Wammos (never said these morons are any good at maths )

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
@ Sotico yea, 90% sins and 50 % Wammos (never said these morons are any good at maths )
And THIS is why I don't bring my main char into Alliance Battles.

Well... that and the lack of Critical Agility.

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

I am in the alliance that owns HzH and it's usually the little 12 year olds that make those comments. Sometimes it just makes me roll my eyes. They go as far as calling people traitors if they've switched sides before and say that Kurzicks should "own the whole land." It's seriously embarrassing that people actually say that shit...

When I AB though, I poke fun at everyone, including teammates. There is always that one person who says something stupid that I just take the opportunity to jump on.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

In my humble Kuzik Opinion, Kurzik pawning Luxon has always been the law of the universe since the creation of faction, you just gotto assume the ROLE YOU ARE PLAYING in a ROLE PLAYING GAME. out side of the game who care if you are Kurzik or luxon. I probably would have drinks with the players if I knew them in real life.

PS: Rank 5 Kurziks here. hoping to get to the top soon.


The funniest time in AB is when you are winning and mobbing, mobbing = good, when you are loosing because luxon is mobbing, mobbing = bad

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
Honestly why is there so much hate lol, its like spliting 2 million players in half and then both sides suddenly hate each other? like ehhh?????

and if you dont know what i am talking about:

"OMG NOOB SUXONS!!!! ALWAYS MOB"

and...

"LOL KUDICKS SUCK"

and even...

"ROFL OUR MOB WILL RAPE YOU LUXONS/KURZICKS"



OMG! YOU MUST BE A KURDICK!!!ONE! ONLY NUB KURDICKS MAKE THIS POSTS

j/k


I really don't know, I have several r3+ Luxon guildies that "hate to death" their counterparts, they see a r3+ kurzick and lock on them

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
OMG! YOU MUST BE A KURDICK!!!ONE! ONLY NUB KURDICKS MAKE THIS POSTS

j/k


I really don't know, I have several r3+ Luxon guildies that "hate to death" their counterparts, they see a r3+ kurzick and lock on them
Luxon funny enough XD

... ROFL at your guildies

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

I guess it's just natural to thing your side is the best. But it's rather funny sometimes. And I love it when people try to kill me for revenge, and fail of course.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The typical GW player is dumb as a doornail. Most competitive team games forbid talking to the other team for such reasons (including, but not limited to, WoW).
I love it when you advertise WoW to us in all your posts [/sarcasim] But really, I have nothing against WoW, but if I wanted to know about it, I'd go to a WoW forum.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Without taunting and such this game would be boring. Taunting and verbal stompage is more fun than the battle itself. I mean you can read the rage in their text after you've mastered them in battle or even in a word battle. Nothing more fun to me than calling out a sin to solo fight away from everyone and proceeding to stomp them all silly. Nothing more fun than watching every skill they try to do get interupted and I'ma necro hahaha I stomp so many sins and warriors and dervishers and paragons and eles and other necros daily it gets mind boggling at all the deaths that tally up. Only time i die is when they gang up on me. Not a one can take me solo though of those classes I mentioned. Rangers and Mesmers can still be a challenge because of their interupts.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Red Sonya, you make Zinger314 look good.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Red Sonya, you make Zinger314 look good.
I resent that, thank you.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I resent that, thank you.
Just messing with you, Zinger!

It was more about my feelings on Red, whose pompous and arrogant attitude is getting a bit on my nerves.

Trub

Trub

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.

Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]

I feel the 'stomping' and chest thumping before, during, and yes...after a wild AB match..just makes it more fun really.
It's all in fun.
(DIE LUXON DOGS!!!)
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SuperDave

SuperDave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

South Africa

Forever Knights

Mo/

It's old fashioned rivalry. It can't be helped. People get worked up while competing against the "other" side, and admittedly take things a little too far. It's been happening for decades in RL, with sport etc. It's not that you want to be mean to the other team, but it's because you have to.

I support the rivalry 100%, if it's good spirited that is.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushin Roulette
Actually what I miss the most are comments durign the fighting such as "n1" or "lol" (in a friendly fassion such as you were just surprized by a second player comming in behind you) or even "nt".

I throw them out every now and then if I just lost or won a particularily hard and evenly matched fight... but I never saw anyone else typing these simple 2 or 3 letter abreviation remarks. In the end its just a game and you have to tremember that real squishies (humans) are sitting in their rooms doing the same as you are.


@ Sotico yea, 90% sins and 50 % Wammos (never said these morons are any good at maths )
I used to do stuff like that. But I ran into a lot of morons who don't even know what that means.

For example, when fighting a team in RA, I commented on one ele on the other team by saying "nice flashbot." The ele proceeded to saying, "QQ more noob." Umm... right. Seriously, I've seen that happen a lot. When people insult you for complimenting them, you know they have issues.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I used to do stuff like that. But I ran into a lot of morons who don't even know what that means.

For example, when fighting a team in RA, I commented on one ele on the other team by saying "nice flashbot." The ele proceeded to saying, "QQ more noob." Umm... right. Seriously, I've seen that happen a lot. When people insult you for complimenting them, you know they have issues.
Prehaps they felt you were being sarcastic, I get called a noob all the time for using blindflash by assassins, so I'd wouldn't be suprised if they mistaked that comment.

azzer20

azzer20

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

In Ballerup, Denmark

Me/

the idea of making Kurzick/Luxon in the first place was teh biggest mistake tehy ever did, neutral guys hate it and the rest are 10 yr old guys having seriously problems

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

More hate = more e-peen boasting for 12 year olds