The Gamer title is a PvP title. Why doesn't it increase the faction cap for Balthazar faction?
I want to implement the same system as Gladiator or Champion on this: Every rank = 5k higher on your faction cap.
Allow Gamer Title to Increase BF Cap
Shayne Hawke
Onarik Amrak
I don't see why not. Not that max faction is a big deal anyway.
Seraphim of Chaos
Gamer is definitely not on the same level as Gladiator, much less Champion. It's a mini-game, it's not going to be taken seriously.
Yawgmoth
The gamer title is a PvP title, true.
Also, playing those minigames can earn you a lot of Balth Faction.
But still this title is very different from the others, it's seasonal and is based on havily grinding the very same thing over and over. It was probably added to be a "fun" title, not something serious.
But anyway, first, there has to be an actual USE for all that faction and the potentially awesome thing that is the increasing faction cap. There's absolutely no use for them, so such a change wouldn't make any difference.
Also, playing those minigames can earn you a lot of Balth Faction.
But still this title is very different from the others, it's seasonal and is based on havily grinding the very same thing over and over. It was probably added to be a "fun" title, not something serious.
But anyway, first, there has to be an actual USE for all that faction and the potentially awesome thing that is the increasing faction cap. There's absolutely no use for them, so such a change wouldn't make any difference.
Likelytodie
The gamer title isn't so much a pvp title as it is an account-based title. The method of pvp you get it through doesn't really constitute extra balth cap (which is really insignificant anyway, now I have somewhere to put all the extra balth I won't use, hooray.)
If you did this, you would also arguably have to make Kurzick/Luxon titles increase balth faction as well
/not-signed because it really isn't needed
If you did this, you would also arguably have to make Kurzick/Luxon titles increase balth faction as well
/not-signed because it really isn't needed
Kanyatta
Are you trying to throw it out there that "Skill required to get Gamer Title = Skill required to get Champ Title"? Its just a fun minigame for the holidays, its not serious pvp or anything
/notsigned
/notsigned
Shayne Hawke
I don't recall myself saying anything along the lines of Gamer equaling Champion or Gladiator in terms of skill. Each of those three titles mentioned requires different forms of gameplay, so I don't even know how you can begin to assume that.
I said that I wanted the system to be put in place like the Gladiator and Champion titles in that every rank earns you 5k higher of a faction cap.
Also, who's to say that people playing the festival games aren't trying to get faction? Increasing the faction cap through this title will enable players like those to play longer without risk of wasting faction. And if future rewards are implemented that require more than the standard max 10k faction, the Gamer Title can help players get that extra max distance that they may want.
This does not fit the Kurzick/Luxon titles, because those titles are also well earned through PvE. As I recall, the quickest methods for gaining faction for each side are accessed through PvE.
I said that I wanted the system to be put in place like the Gladiator and Champion titles in that every rank earns you 5k higher of a faction cap.
Also, who's to say that people playing the festival games aren't trying to get faction? Increasing the faction cap through this title will enable players like those to play longer without risk of wasting faction. And if future rewards are implemented that require more than the standard max 10k faction, the Gamer Title can help players get that extra max distance that they may want.
This does not fit the Kurzick/Luxon titles, because those titles are also well earned through PvE. As I recall, the quickest methods for gaining faction for each side are accessed through PvE.
Ekelon
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
The Gamer title is a PvP title. Why doesn't it increase the faction cap for Balthazar faction?
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On a side note, for some people, having a higher faction cap seems to give them an ego boost. I would say though, that most people who have 50k+ faction cap are already UAX'ed, so it's not like they spend faction on anything but tourney tokens. Basically, what I'm saying, is that higher faction cap does not really matter.
Div
Why would BF cap even matter anymore? And the gamer title is a stupid title.
lishi
/not signed
instead change their name.
i want rank 3 so i will be able to display it on monument, but i like "pro skillz" much better then "mad skillz"
instead change their name.
i want rank 3 so i will be able to display it on monument, but i like "pro skillz" much better then "mad skillz"
Longasc
I would rather suggest the removal of many rubbish titles, gamer being one of them.
HawkofStorms
/notsigned
Gamer is a silly title anyway.
Gamer is a silly title anyway.
Pogrim The Crusader
I really don't see why not. the title takes Forever to achieve, and there really isnt much of an insentive to achieve it. It's clearly player vs player and heck, an extra 2000 balth faction would be kinda nice, and really doesn't negatively impact anyone. I don't understand all the bashing of this. Rank 1 of this title takes longer, and is far more frustrating and agitating to obtain than it takes to get rank 2 of the almighty hero track.
Pogrim The Crusader
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Originally Posted by Longasc
I would rather suggest the removal of many rubbish titles, gamer being one of them.
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IslandHermet
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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
The gamer title is a PvP title, true.
Also, playing those minigames can earn you a lot of Balth Faction. But still this title is very different from the others, it's seasonal and is based on havily grinding the very same thing over and over. It was probably added to be a "fun" title, not something serious. But anyway, first, there has to be an actual USE for all that faction and the potentially awesome thing that is the increasing faction cap. There's absolutely no use for them, so such a change wouldn't make any difference. |
it is Anets way of slanging up the titles. Word you got Mad Skillz dog. LOL
MithranArkanere
Gamer is not an 'anytime' title.
It should give no reward unless they add a way to increase it anytime.
It should give no reward unless they add a way to increase it anytime.
Shayne Hawke
Revival for relevance.
Orange Milk
I fail to see any relevance.
Nothing has changed since the last time everyone "/not signed" this thread.
/not signed
Nothing has changed since the last time everyone "/not signed" this thread.
/not signed
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
The Gamer title is a PvP title.
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Although I wouldn't mind it giving Balthazar Faction raises.
I need more then 10k Balth faction for my DA/CB streaks. And I don't PvP other ways.
so, I'll /sign.
HawkofStorms
I'm actually changing my vote on this after a few months of thought.
It isn't like max faction is important or something you can show off. It doesn't negatively impact anybody to do this. If anybody who has a high faction cap feels like this "deminishes" something they can just play costume brawl for a few days too.
It isn't like max faction is important or something you can show off. It doesn't negatively impact anybody to do this. If anybody who has a high faction cap feels like this "deminishes" something they can just play costume brawl for a few days too.
Surge goes pre
/notsign
Gamer title is not really a pvp title, anyone can just go and do it. All the other titles that raise balth cap are pvp titles actually, that take skill
Just my own opinion
Gamer title is not really a pvp title, anyone can just go and do it. All the other titles that raise balth cap are pvp titles actually, that take skill
Just my own opinion
ac1inferno
I don't see the Gamer title as being PvP at all. I do wonder why Luxon and Kurzick titles don't increase the cap for their own faction.
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre
/notsign
Gamer title is not really a pvp title, anyone can just go and do it. All the other titles that raise balth cap are pvp titles actually, that take skill Just my own opinion |
obsidian ectoplasm
/signed because i dont have gamer title and because everyone else is saying /not signed
Ranger Icarus
/Doesn't sign. I think a big part of the gamer title is that in many of the Holiday mini games, albeit pvp, is that your real skills are replaced with either "fun" skills, or skills that you may not have unlocked, like in costume brawl. This having been said, makes me feel as if the gamer title does not reflect someone's skills a pvper, but this is just my opinion.
Lycan Nibbler
I am not sure where people are coming from when they say it isnt a PvP title, unless PvP means something other than Player vs Player that I dont know.
anyway, I dont think its really needed but it would probably be helpful for those that AB and do these events, but not HA, HB etc and wouldnt hurt anything or anyone else...
/signed
anyway, I dont think its really needed but it would probably be helpful for those that AB and do these events, but not HA, HB etc and wouldnt hurt anything or anyone else...
/signed
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre
/notsign
Gamer title is not really a pvp title, anyone can just go and do it. All the other titles that raise balth cap are pvp titles actually, that take skill Just my own opinion |
Technically, this title is a PvP title and there's no other way of obtaining this title other than playing PvP. /Signed.
Secksy
Who gives a damn about balth caps? OH NO, I HAVE TO DONATE SOONER THAN I WANT TOO.
/unsigned.
/unsigned.
TrippieHippie89
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Eh, I disagree. While all ways to get Gamer is against players, it's not really on the same level due to it's rarity of getting points.
Although I wouldn't mind it giving Balthazar Faction raises. I need more then 10k Balth faction for my DA/CB streaks. And I don't PvP other ways. so, I'll /sign. |
you mean you dont pvp at all, da/cb isnt pvp anymore than ab is
go farm RA for glad if you really want more balth
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by TrippieHippie89
you mean you dont pvp at all, da/cb isnt pvp anymore than ab is
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People just say AB isn't PvP because of two things:
1. Most people focus on capping shrines, not fighting players.
2. The titles don't add to Balthazar faction.
AB is still technically PvP though.
You get balth faction? It's PvP. That simple really.
Also, I do RA every now and then, but hardly enough to call it as "doing PvP."
Lycan Nibbler
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Originally Posted by Surge goes pre
/notsign
Gamer title is not really a pvp title, anyone can just go and do it. |
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If there was "no skill" involved in gamer, then why are there certain people who go on long streaks? That would be a statistical improbability. Actually outplaying someone with an identical bar can be seen to be more skilled than "Build Wars". JMHO
Ben-A-BoO
/not signed
It has already the coolest title names to make it worth while ...
Numchuck Skillz? Yes please!
Gosu Skillz? OMG thats Hawt!
Only the Asuran title track names come close ...
It has already the coolest title names to make it worth while ...
Numchuck Skillz? Yes please!
Gosu Skillz? OMG thats Hawt!
Only the Asuran title track names come close ...
Ranger Icarus
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/not signed
It has already the coolest title names to make it worth while ... Numchuck Skillz? Yes please! Gosu Skillz? OMG thats Hawt! Only the Asuran title track names come close ... |
Shayne Hawke
Revival for relevance, again.
Louva A Deus
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Originally Posted by Ekelon
Err, the Gamer title IS NOT a PvP title. It is a mini-game title (that just happens to involve other players, but that doesn't necessarily make it PvP.
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Nerel
I don't really think it matters all that much if the 'lower end' PvP games contribute to lifting your Balth Faction cap, I mean to say I'm not in any way opposed to the idea, I just don't think it's needed.
Really I don't see Hero Battles as being all that much more 'high end PvP' than say, snowball arenas...
I suppose if some of these forms of PvP, 'lesser' forms of PvP in the eyes of much of the community, did contribute to the Balth cap it 'might' be a way of getting more people interested in the PvP side of the game. It couldn't hurt.
Really I don't see Hero Battles as being all that much more 'high end PvP' than say, snowball arenas...
I suppose if some of these forms of PvP, 'lesser' forms of PvP in the eyes of much of the community, did contribute to the Balth cap it 'might' be a way of getting more people interested in the PvP side of the game. It couldn't hurt.
lilDeath
/not signed
1/ Gamer is not a PVP title.
2/ Gamer is a silly title.
3/ BF cap does not matter.
/thread
1/ Gamer is not a PVP title.
2/ Gamer is a silly title.
3/ BF cap does not matter.
/thread
Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by lilDeath
1/ Gamer is not a PVP title.
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Other PvP titles increase the faction cap on players because of the idea that players with more experience (and thus, higher title ranks?) will play more PvP and for longer durations, so a higher cap is useful. The same applies to Gamer.
Martin Alvito
/notsigned
Neither Gamer nor Commander should count towards the faction cap. They're both "illegitimate" titles in the sense that they disproportionately reward degenerate behaviors - entry spiking and Resign Wars respectively. High ranks in Gladiator, Hero and Champion are only attainable through team formats (leaving the champ point farming bug aside, anyway). You should have to play a true team format to push the Balth cap up.
Neither Gamer nor Commander should count towards the faction cap. They're both "illegitimate" titles in the sense that they disproportionately reward degenerate behaviors - entry spiking and Resign Wars respectively. High ranks in Gladiator, Hero and Champion are only attainable through team formats (leaving the champ point farming bug aside, anyway). You should have to play a true team format to push the Balth cap up.
Nerel
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/not signed
1/ Gamer is not a PVP title. 2/ Gamer is a silly title. 3/ BF cap does not matter. /thread |
Other than 'Gamer is a silly title' you really went to great effort to make arguments against your own stance on this matter. Good work.