Channeling elite skills suck ,admit it.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

Well I'm one of those rits that like being a ele poser so obviously I use Channeling attributes as my primary. Most high dmge spells take farley long to activate but I can deal with that, but one thing I feel is very weak are the Channeling elite skills, They prove very unaffective, even normal spells are far most effective than them.

Fellow Rits what do you think about the elite Channeling skills?

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Well, there's [skill]offering of spirit[/skill] and

um

yeah.


Of course, offering of spirit is also one of the very, very small subset of viable rit elites.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

....^yea that could be viable and find some use, but I don't have Nightfall so yea, Channeling elite skills suck, were screwed...

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

I kinda semi agree, I kinda ran around without an elite for a long time.

[skill]spirit rift[/skill][skill]ancestors' rage[/skill][skill]splinter weapon[/skill] as the business end of the build.

[skill]essence strike[/skill] for e-management (not great) and your choice of spirit, recharge-management[skill]ghostly haste[/skill][skill]weapon of quickening[/skill], utility and rez.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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[skill]signet of spirits[/skill] is kind of a poor man's offering of spirit, it'll do in a pinch if you don't have NF.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

are there any good elite Channeling spells that like deal damage in an effective or easy to find conditional way?

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by terminus123
are there any good elite Channeling spells that like deal damage in an effective or easy to find conditional way? No, there are no good channeling direct damage spells.

It's ok though, splinter weapon and ancestor's rage are both so insanely effective that there's no need for an elite damage spell. However, I would like if they finally made [skill]clamor of souls[/skill] not terrible.

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

The sad truth is, most Rit elites are horrible.

Channeling does have a good elite - namely Offering of Spirit - which is totally awesome because it gives you the energy to constantly churn out Rages and Splinters, which are both amazing spells.

Alas, Rits cannot be an ele poser because the direct damage simply cannot compare to, say, a Mind Blaster with Rodgort's. However, their true strength lies in their ability to be really flexible - Rage and Splinter on the warriors lets them annihalate stuff, while you've still got 6 skills and another attribute line left to max out and play with (luckily, Spawning Power really sucks so you don't need to waste points there) - Restoration for the cute lil' heals you get, and Smiting Prayers because it makes the physicals even more terrifying - are me favourite lines.

Dodo The Extinct

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

Weapon Of Quickening may see some use soon if people realize that it is better than MoR.

Grasping Was Kuurong isn't that bad, and can be used to chain AoE KD's

But yea, Splinter is all you need :P

Abbel Calima

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

The Netherlands

Envoys From Above [soul]

Me/

Lol i constantly see ritualist without an elite, but with GoLE in the elite slot. Then when i ask why they don't have an elite they say because all the elites suck, if i refer them to Offering of Spirit they call me noob.

With my N/Rt build, i always use WoQ or OoS as the elite when i go channeling. (necro primary because SR > SP)

Painbringer

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

My Channel Rit seems to run builds without elites not sure why but no real need for them. Now and then I use [skill]Grasping Was Kuurong[/skill] in RA PVP. Fun to run in now and then.

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
My Channel Rit seems to run builds without elites not sure why but no real need for them. Now and then I use [skill]Grasping Was Kuurong[/skill] in RA PVP. Fun to run in now and then. Now....a PBAoE Knockdown. The damage is pretty poor, the conditions to use it is poor, and it has a 20s recharge. Now let's top it off with a 2 second cast and the loss of all of your weapon mods and +energy while held. It sounds like such a GREAT skill to have in my elite spot.....

If the skill was 5e, I'd consider taking it. Right now it just eats too much energy to be useful.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by TGgold
Now....a PBAoE Knockdown. The damage is pretty poor, the conditions to use it is poor, and it has a 20s recharge. Now let's top it off with a 2 second cast and the loss of all of your weapon mods and +energy while held. It sounds like such a GREAT skill to have in my elite spot.....

If the skill was 5e, I'd consider taking it. Right now it just eats too much energy to be useful. This is a spell that is ment to be cast prior to battle. 20 second recharge, 2 seconds to cast. Duration = around 60 seconds. Both the recharge and casting time are negated by pre-battle casting.

Weapon bonuses lost is not that big of a deal, since once you drop the ashes, you gain them back (health boost and energy boost from what you had before).

I think it is a good skill, I use it when I channel, but I don't really like the fact that I need to be close to the enemy to use it.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick Me
This is a spell that is ment to be cast prior to battle. 20 second recharge, 2 seconds to cast. Duration = around 60 seconds. Both the recharge and casting time are negated by pre-battle casting. Actually, the best use of Grasping is to precast it, wait until the skill has recharged, then rush into battle. You can recast it after the first knockdown and knock 'em to their feet again before they can act.

Double your knockdown pleasure FTW!!#!@!

P.S. Try this with Aftershock...that's a fun combo.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

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I like the grasping rit/a build.

Dodo The Extinct

Dodo The Extinct

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Me/Rt

Quote:
Now....a PBAoE Knockdown. The damage is pretty poor, the conditions to use it is poor, and it has a 20s recharge. Now let's top it off with a 2 second cast and the loss of all of your weapon mods and +energy while held. It sounds like such a GREAT skill to have in my elite spot..... Think of it as dual Earthshakers

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

at least one fairly good dmge channeling spell elite plz Anet?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

destructive was glaive is pretty awesome..

[skill]destructive was glaive[/skill]

it doesnt say it in that description but while you hold the ashes you have 10% armor penetration

milkflopance

milkflopance

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

England

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
destructive was glaive is pretty awesome..

[skill]destructive was glaive[/skill]

it doesnt say it in that description but while you hold the ashes you have 10% armor penetration It does say it on the description. Unless you mean the crappy out of date skill icons on guru.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by milkflopance
It does say it on the description. Unless you mean the crappy out of date skill icons on guru. he does mean the crappy out of date guru icons....

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

[skill]destructive was glaive[/skill][skill]offering of spirit[/skill]
only good channeling elites imo.
idk bout [skill]clamor of souls[/skill] so ill see if it works with a MM's minions:P

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

Clamor of Souls is basically rubbish. The fact that you get a CONDITIONAL PBAoE with a gimpy damage output and a pretty long recharge....it's not that impressive...

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

Destructive of Galive isn't very good either, 10% armour pen is not that much (dammit air eles get 25% and still only do like 20-40 more dmge), and it only lasts for 10 seconds so your not to many spells are going to be able to be used anyways.

Offering of Spirit though is an really good elite, but still no good damaging elites.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

well who uses it for the armor penetration...it's the mass zap you give everything when you drop them thats the appealing part.

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

ehh.. Cruel was Daoshen can do that too, and its not elite so it dosen't take elite slot, costs more, but faster recharge, more base dmge, but no armour penetration, it kinda equals out, tell you the truth, I'll rather rely on that Vengful was Khanei for dmge.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler
destructive was glaive is pretty awesome..

[skill]destructive was glaive[/skill]

it doesnt say it in that description but while you hold the ashes you have 10% armor penetration Except that you can only hold them for 10 seconds, you lose your enchantments and weapon bonuses, and 10% AP is such a small amount as to not matter.

Arieon Ito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

[One]

Rt/

Caretaker's charge anyone? It's usually the elite I bring when I'm running a Channelling PvP build, usually paired with Mighty Was Vorizun.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

For Channeling Elites I like [wiki]Offering of Spirit[/wiki] and [wiki]Grasping was Kuurong[/wiki].

As for heroes though I usually give my Channeling heroes [wiki]Expel Hexes[/wiki] if I'm going into a hex heavy area, they're great with it.

Channeling elites are a little lacking on the whole.

super strokey

super strokey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Soviet Canuckistan

N/

I think that rits would be much much more in demand and useful if the darn spirits actually followed the caster lol (with out having to bring a spell)

Xiooua

Xiooua

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by super strokey
I think that rits would be much much more in demand and useful if the darn spirits actually followed the caster lol (with out having to bring a spell)
Then they'd just be a Necromancer except with spirits. And besides, they're called binding rituals. That'd be kind of an oxymoron if the bound spirits you summon follow you, wouldn't it?

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Offering of Spirit > You.

Non elites - Ancestor's Rage, Splinter Weapon > most elites in game > you

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
For Channeling Elites I like [wiki]Offering of Spirit[/wiki] and [wiki]Grasping was Kuurong[/wiki].

As for heroes though I usually give my Channeling heroes [wiki]Expel Hexes[/wiki] if I'm going into a hex heavy area, they're great with it.

Channeling elites are a little lacking on the whole.
This pretty much sums it up, although [skill]weapon of remedy[/skill] and [skill]spirit light weapon[/skill] can also be worth bringing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Strokey
I think that rits would be much much more in demand and useful if the darn spirits actually followed the caster lol (with out having to bring a spell) People still spam spirits?

EDIT: Put the wrong name on the second quote, sorry beaver

Tab

Tab

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2006

Under a bridge

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/

Spirit shitting is still popular among bad players (read: almost everyone).

frojack

frojack

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Rite Of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Bunny
Non elites - Ancestor's Rage, Splinter Weapon > most elites in game Man, that is so true...

terminus123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

N/Me

lol yea, but what's funny is if some PUGS see you without a elite spell they'll kick you out, so most of the time I'm forced to take a crappy elite Channeling spell or the farley Useful Vengeful was Khanei (even though it's Restoration).

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

You have splinter weapon and ancestors rage, you don't care that your elites suck. Splinter weapon is stupid good. Just take offering of spirit for energy (you don't actually need any spirits, just eat the life sac.)

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Only if you didn't need a huge investment in spawning, this would be my elite of choice.

[skill=big]Attuned was Songkai[/skill]

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Offering of spirit makes attuned was songkai look like a pot filled with feces.

Trevor The Wave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

This Is Ukraine [UA]

E/Me

is it just me or is the wording on that picture for attuned wrong?

Kale Ironfist

Kale Ironfist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

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It's missing two symbols, one on either side of the variable numbers.