Drunken Master on a Moebius Blossom?

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

No need to get all green and ripped now Yan.
If the matter cannot be expressed with civility then it isn't worth expressing at all.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

FFS SotiCoto, it HAS been explained in a civil matter, and I can understand Yan's frustration.

More IAS is never bad.

Why?

Auto-attacks are canceled by attack skills. End of story.

longhornrob

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

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Originally Posted by Bobby2
FFS SotiCoto, it HAS been explained in a civil matter, and I can understand Yan's frustration.

More IAS is never bad.

Why?

Auto-attacks are canceled by attack skills. End of story. So from what I can tell, the OPs argument is that Moebius will finish recharging while in the middle of an auto attack, thus forcing you to wait a bit longer to use it. With the 15%, you'll finish two attacks just in time for MS to recharge, meaning you'll get to go right back at it with MS again. So with 33%, you'll get more auto-attacks in, but fewer Death Blossom spammage in.
It seems to me that this would mean your primary target would take more damage with 33%, but adjacent foes will receive more damage with 15%.

And what do you mean by the above statement, Bobby? If you are in the middle of an auto-attack and you use Moebius Strike, the sin will instantly stop using the auto-attack in mid form and use MS instead?

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

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Originally Posted by longhornrob
So from what I can tell, the OPs argument is that Moebius will finish recharging while in the middle of an auto attack, thus forcing you to wait a bit longer to use it. With the 15%, you'll finish two attacks just in time for MS to recharge, meaning you'll get to go right back at it with MS again. So with 33%, you'll get more auto-attacks in, but fewer Death Blossom spammage in.
It seems to me that this would mean your primary target would take more damage with 33%, but adjacent foes will receive more damage with 15%.
but the problem is the OP is wrong. with 33% adjacents will take the same damage, but the target will take more. PLUS you gain more energy from zealous

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Originally Posted by longhornrob
And what do you mean by the above statement, Bobby? If you are in the middle of an auto-attack and you use Moebius Strike, the sin will instantly stop using the auto-attack in mid form and use MS instead? this is correct. its easier to see with a hammer or scythe.

Turalisj

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/R

Here's the thing- The only build moebius blitz and death blossom are used for are for farming builds. Drunken Master can be replaced with a better skill that gives you more options (like the sunspear skill, can't remember the name atm) that gives + to armor and an attack speed bonus.

Bobby2

Bobby2

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Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

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W/E

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Originally Posted by Turalisj
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Oh dear. Poor guy!
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
this is correct. its easier to see with a hammer or scythe. Yeah. Following up; with 33% IAS you can actually 'tone down' your attacks to any speed in between 100% and 133%. A 33% IAS will therefore always score equal or better than Drunken Master on Master of Damage tests

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turalisj
Here's the thing- The only build moebius blitz and death blossom are used for are for farming builds. What now?
Hello General PvE?
Moebius + DB spam is a perfect general PvE stable set-up.

Turalisj

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/R

I've been playing an assassin since factions came out and the only thing I can find DB good for is mob killing. Even then, some mobs you don't want dying all at once (minion bombs and afflicted)

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turalisj
I've been playing an assassin since factions came out and the only thing I can find DB good for is mob killing. Even then, some mobs you don't want dying all at once (minion bombs and afflicted) Then again... MOST you do...
And strangely enough, PvE consists generally of many many mobs, piled high to the sky.

Besides... if you can't handle a bunch of afflicted exploding in your face, you need better self-heal.