[skill]mind blast[/skill][skill]rodgort's invocation[/skill][skill]teinai's heat[/skill][skill]blinding flash[/skill][skill]fire attunement[/skill][skill]convert hexes[/skill][skill]Draw Conditions[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
Idk if this is a common variant(i.e., its been done), but imo, this is beauty.
Excellent mnd blaster right here(pvp)
jaeharys targaryen
Silph
1: try posting full build. skills AND attribs.
2: Why Bflash? rest is fier. then one air. thats another skill tree you have to invest in...
3: in case you diddt notice, theres like 7+ different PvP Styles. whitch is this monstrosity "beauty" at?
2: Why Bflash? rest is fier. then one air. thats another skill tree you have to invest in...
3: in case you diddt notice, theres like 7+ different PvP Styles. whitch is this monstrosity "beauty" at?
Stormlord Alex
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Originally Posted by Silph
3: in case you diddt notice, theres like 7+ different PvP Styles. whitch is this monstrosity "beauty" at?
Uuuhh... lol? You ARE allowed to use more than 2 attributes, you know... This build only really specs in 3, Convert/Draw are fine at 0 spec.
Quick run down - Mind Blast gives you infinite energy.
Blinding Flash requires infinite energy to spam. Flash is beautiful on a Mind Blaster. Rodgort's kills stuff, the prots are just gravy.
IMO, strong bar overall, though... I'd be more apt to take MoR/Liquid Flame/Fireball over the Heat, unless I specifically need that DoT.
Quick run down - Mind Blast gives you infinite energy.
Blinding Flash requires infinite energy to spam. Flash is beautiful on a Mind Blaster. Rodgort's kills stuff, the prots are just gravy.
IMO, strong bar overall, though... I'd be more apt to take MoR/Liquid Flame/Fireball over the Heat, unless I specifically need that DoT.
moko
too energy heavy.
yep you read it right.
even with mindblast.
convert, blfash and rodgorts will be too much to get a really good effect.
2 mindblasters with a mix of both could handle it a lot better.
yep you read it right.
even with mindblast.
convert, blfash and rodgorts will be too much to get a really good effect.
2 mindblasters with a mix of both could handle it a lot better.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Mokone
too energy heavy.
yep you read it right.
even with mindblast.
convert, blfash and rodgorts will be too much to get a really good effect.
2 mindblasters with a mix of both could handle it a lot better. have to agree, i was thinkign losing rodgort's
yep you read it right.
even with mindblast.
convert, blfash and rodgorts will be too much to get a really good effect.
2 mindblasters with a mix of both could handle it a lot better. have to agree, i was thinkign losing rodgort's
Coloneh
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have to agree, i was thinkign losing rodgort's
HAHAHA. joking?
jeejeeTuukka
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
HAHAHA. joking?
You could try to backup your comments with some points why you actually think he's wrong.
Anyway,
Didn't try this one out, so can't really say yet. GoLE might be a decent idea with convert hexes & rodgort. Also, I'm not too comfortable with tenais heat either.
Guess this would be most suitable in GVG.
But i definetely like the way you combined energy management, damage output, meelee shutdown, decent condition and hex removing. I think this could be ran in PVE as hero builds.
Anyway,
Didn't try this one out, so can't really say yet. GoLE might be a decent idea with convert hexes & rodgort. Also, I'm not too comfortable with tenais heat either.
Guess this would be most suitable in GVG.
But i definetely like the way you combined energy management, damage output, meelee shutdown, decent condition and hex removing. I think this could be ran in PVE as hero builds.
bungusmaximus
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
HAHAHA. joking?
Hmm Rodgort's is interrupt bait, and if you get interrupted casting it, ooooooh povre si, all 25 energy goes down the drain faster then a rabbit gets.... well you get it. I wouldn't take it tbh, not in PvP.
I think the whole bar is pretty strong, but I don't get the 2 area nukes, unless it's for AB, then it would make more sense. I would stash liquid flame in there somewhere anyways, I love that skill.
I think the whole bar is pretty strong, but I don't get the 2 area nukes, unless it's for AB, then it would make more sense. I would stash liquid flame in there somewhere anyways, I love that skill.
Wakka
You cant run Rodgots without GoLE.
I would drop the BFlash for Gole and the draw for either a ward (foes or melee, although foes rocks atm) or for Aegis ^_^ And then put 9 into either earth(+1 with rune)/or prot.
I would drop the BFlash for Gole and the draw for either a ward (foes or melee, although foes rocks atm) or for Aegis ^_^ And then put 9 into either earth(+1 with rune)/or prot.
jaeharys targaryen
Well you guys are saying GvG, but tbh, i am a TA loyalist, so i take flash instead of ward. flash is better when there is at most 2 melee threats, unless the other team is god-awful.
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interrupt bait, an interrupt which destroys your nrg. its excellent in the current meta, i'll agree. watching rodgort's+splinter weapon tear apart a warded backline must be hilar.
i threw in teinai's because it can manipulate movent like no other. +its fun with shock axe
fireball is excellent, imo. 2 seconds more recharge, 15 less energy. its range is baed(only one rung less than rodgort's, tbh), btu again, i'm a TA kinda guy. sub in fire ball for rodgort's... that would be excelent, imo.
Coloneh
I wasnt talking about PvP. this is the PvE forum. rodgort's owns every aspect of PvE. taking it off a PvE bar is madness.
Sir Pandra Pierva
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
I wasnt talking about PvP. this is the PvE forum. rodgort's owns every aspect of PvE. taking it off a PvE bar is madness.
Still i can't see why you would need blinding flash.
jesh
Uhhhh blind is a good condition? And you can keep it on 2 targets at once, which is usually more than enough.
90% chance to miss is like throwing around a non elite SoD.
90% chance to miss is like throwing around a non elite SoD.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
I wasnt talking about PvP. this is the PvE forum. rodgort's owns every aspect of PvE. taking it off a PvE bar is madness.
yeh i'm still unclear as to how i can post a proffession specific build for pvp, when the prof forums are int eh pve area. but i beseech you to actually read my title again, coloneh.
Coloneh
i dont care about the title of your thread. i care about the title of the section of the forum you posted in. this is the PvE section.
moko
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
i dont care about the title of your thread. i care about the title of the section of the forum you posted in. this is the PvE section.
and there is no section to post individual PvP builds however. the description for this is 2 years old (i believe), nobody will get punished for posting PvP builds -- it's a bit stubborn to just comment on PvE if this wasn't meant for PvE, don't you think?
you could add an additional line after you made your PvP point of view, but you did not, so i would just not post at all.
however, considering many people run RI in PvP also, i didn't even realise you only meant Pve Coloneh..cause it rocks in PvP too, so i guess your point stands still, lol.
you could add an additional line after you made your PvP point of view, but you did not, so i would just not post at all.
however, considering many people run RI in PvP also, i didn't even realise you only meant Pve Coloneh..cause it rocks in PvP too, so i guess your point stands still, lol.
Tab
Mind Blast in PvP with no Hex Breaker = Fail.
jaeharys targaryen
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Mind Blast in PvP with no Hex Breaker = Fail.
explain.
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Tab
Hai Im Spamming Every Two Seconds, Divert Me Pls. Rly Need.
Why does this forum have a caps filter.
Why does this forum have a caps filter.
jaeharys targaryen
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Hai Im Spamming Every Two Seconds, Divert Me Pls. Rly Need.
Why does this forum have a caps filter. if you spam mind blast into diversion its your own fault.
Why does this forum have a caps filter. if you spam mind blast into diversion its your own fault.
Tab
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Originally Posted by jaeharys targaryen
if you spam mind blast into diversion its your own fault.
My point is that even the worst mesmer in Guild Wars could time Diversion to hit Mind Blast. If you don't spam it, it's a wasted elite slot.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
My point is that even the worst mesmer in Guild Wars could time Diversion to hit Mind Blast. If you don't spam it, it's a wasted elite slot.
i realized thats what you meant when i went to bed yesterday. its a good point, but when it comes down to it i have yet to ever see a e/me mind blasting in pvp. so is this your opinion your peddling as accepted fact, here?
not that i observe much.
not that i observe much.
Tab
It's the only Mind Blast bar that sees play tbh.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
It's the only Mind Blast bar that sees play tbh.
o rly?
i shall go forth and watch.
but i found/tweaked this for TA. mesmers are a non entity.
i shall go forth and watch.
but i found/tweaked this for TA. mesmers are a non entity.
Tab
Actually, I quite regularly go against 2 thumpers and a dom mes in TA.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets
Actually, I quite regularly go against 2 thumpers and a dom mes in TA.
as compared to how many other teams though?
i havent TAed in a while, to be sure.
i havent TAed in a while, to be sure.
Silph
heres what i run for mind blasting.
Fire attune, Glyph of ele power, Mind Blast, MS, rodgorts invo, intensity, Energy blast
of course, MS and intensity would need replacing for PVP combat. mabie take the 2 above suggested monk skills.
for sure tho Energy blasts 130 armor ignoring damage pwns.
Fire attune, Glyph of ele power, Mind Blast, MS, rodgorts invo, intensity, Energy blast
of course, MS and intensity would need replacing for PVP combat. mabie take the 2 above suggested monk skills.
for sure tho Energy blasts 130 armor ignoring damage pwns.
Sir Pandra Pierva
I wonder if mind blast on a mes would work? Probolly not well.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
I wonder if mind blast on a mes would work? Probolly not well.
if you used it on a warrior possibly....
Sir Pandra Pierva
Figured as much hmm, still who knows I will fiddle with it
that ends my semi off topic idea/
that ends my semi off topic idea/
Lourens
[skill]distracting shot[/skill] can easely shut down a mind blast using ele 
tmakinen
Spammy builds like the Mind Blast one in PvP are just begging for a Diversion (and any mesmer worth his/her salt will be able to time it so that it lands in mid-cast) or a Signet of Humility if there doesn't happen to be any better targets for SoH nearby. Flash is good but Rodgort's? Maybe in AB ...
Somehow, I've always thought that Immolate is the perfect match for Mind Blast if you want a high DPS two button combo.
Somehow, I've always thought that Immolate is the perfect match for Mind Blast if you want a high DPS two button combo.
jaeharys targaryen
this discussion went to shit
sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much
sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much
Stormlord Alex
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this discussion went to shit
sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much You can ignore Lourens, he's never touched Mind Blast so his comments are meaningless.
Anyho, Diversion gets laughed at...
That /Me secondary is finally useful.
And... all this talk about counters is moot, tbh, any build can be countered - this is especially true of eles, who are prone to interrupts and enchantment strips moreso than other classes.
and tmak - Rodgort's belongs on a Mind Blaster, even in PvP it's fairly quite easy to hit at least 2 people in just about every format. And eating an Invocation without Prot Spirit really, really hurts. Definately worth a slot.
You can bring Immolate if you want too... bleh
sayign distracting shot shuts it down begs the question of why its being used so much You can ignore Lourens, he's never touched Mind Blast so his comments are meaningless.
Anyho, Diversion gets laughed at...
That /Me secondary is finally useful.
And... all this talk about counters is moot, tbh, any build can be countered - this is especially true of eles, who are prone to interrupts and enchantment strips moreso than other classes.
and tmak - Rodgort's belongs on a Mind Blaster, even in PvP it's fairly quite easy to hit at least 2 people in just about every format. And eating an Invocation without Prot Spirit really, really hurts. Definately worth a slot.
You can bring Immolate if you want too... bleh
Sir Pandra Pierva
Rodgorts is awsome in RA and TA. Mind blast is a good way to put it up without losing step on pressure.
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Rodgorts is awsome in RA and TA. Mind blast is a good way to put it up without losing step on pressure.
well said
i think it would be also be good in a GvG setting, i can kinda see it:
e/rt
rodgort's, splinter, ancestor's
splinters a warrior
gogo warded casters getting incinerated?
i think it would be also be good in a GvG setting, i can kinda see it:
e/rt
rodgort's, splinter, ancestor's
splinters a warrior
gogo warded casters getting incinerated?
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
You can ignore Lourens, he's never touched Mind Blast so his comments are meaningless.
excuse me? 
Sir Pandra Pierva
lol.
Jarharys what is the point of that second idea? I don't GvG much but would that be one ele or more of a team doing that?
Jarharys what is the point of that second idea? I don't GvG much but would that be one ele or more of a team doing that?
jaeharys targaryen
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Originally Posted by Lourens
excuse me?
you ae acting like each of us didnt individually own you ona separate thread?
smrandom
IMO, the synergy in this build isn't very good. Mind Blast is a pressure skill, which is meant to be used constantly to overpower the other team's healing ability. Rodgort's is a spike skill, meant to be combined with other big packet damage to kill a target in a single coordinated shot. Searing Heat is used to punish poor positioning or flush people from certain areas, but it's cast, cost and recharge make it a poor skirmish skill. You've essentially wasted two slots on energy management with both Mind Blast and Fire Attunement and reached into a 4th attribute for utility. That's not against the rules, it just probably isn't as efficient as a bar that only needs to spec in two or three attirbutes.
In any 8 man format, if this is the only build of the kind in the team, it will probably get wrecked by a mesmer and ranger. Diversion is half of the problem, although readily managable with proper planning (i.e., bring your own Dshot/PLeak). The other problem is that the long cast times of Rodgort's and Searing Heat makes you a prime candidate for interruptions, especially Power Leak, Power Drain and DShot. If you can't get those off, you can't really do much damage.
Maybe this does own in TA and RA, but I hesitate to use that as evidence of the quality of the build. You may still see RI and SH in HA, but the elite of choice in those builds is typically Savannah Heat and there is usually at least one or two other eles in the build (usually another SH Ele and a Shatterstone Ele). You would most likely never see this in any experienced GvG team.
In any 8 man format, if this is the only build of the kind in the team, it will probably get wrecked by a mesmer and ranger. Diversion is half of the problem, although readily managable with proper planning (i.e., bring your own Dshot/PLeak). The other problem is that the long cast times of Rodgort's and Searing Heat makes you a prime candidate for interruptions, especially Power Leak, Power Drain and DShot. If you can't get those off, you can't really do much damage.
Maybe this does own in TA and RA, but I hesitate to use that as evidence of the quality of the build. You may still see RI and SH in HA, but the elite of choice in those builds is typically Savannah Heat and there is usually at least one or two other eles in the build (usually another SH Ele and a Shatterstone Ele). You would most likely never see this in any experienced GvG team.