Gaming Mouse

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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I've been thinking about purchasing a gaming mouse, mainly for GW and Team Fortress 2, both of which I'm playing on a laptop. So I checked Amazon, and found that the most popular mouse is the Logitech MX518. Anybody have this mouse? Or does anyone have any opinions or recommendations/suggestions on which I should purchase? Much thanks.

Yanman.be

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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I have the mx510, mx518 is a small upgrade from that. Great mouse.

I currently have the mx510 and a G5 connected, I switch regularly, although they pretty much are the same design.

They're good mice. The G5 comes with DPI switching and extra weights, pretty handy if you combine multiple styles of gaming... CS? low dpi&alot of weight. C&C or gw? Lose the weight, use higher dpi!

Goddess Elaine

Goddess Elaine

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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Well, I use both G7 & G5.

The only diff is that... one is wireless, and one is not wireless, I guess. Lol

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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I've been looking at the G9 and the G5 as well.. I'm still not sure which of the three is the best, although the weights sounds interesting..

Isileth

Isileth

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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I use an MX518 and am very happy with it.

With all the top mice being good ive always felt it better to go with one your comfortable with. Ive tried some of the others and they just dont feel right.

So if you can get into anywhere that sells them and have a play, or even just hold them, it deffinately helps.

elektra_lucia

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Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

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I was heavily into FPS gaming so I have tried tonnnnnnnnes of mice.

Razer diamondback: Very good with mouse tweak to lower MS (you will find it on esreality). It's my favourite mouse except the shape grated me a bit. It's nice for a laptop too because it's small. Doesn't suffer negative acceleration when you move it fast.
MX 510 Suffers negative acceleration. It's too high up, can hurt my hand. Don't like it...
MX 518. Nice optics, but same shape as 510 which again is a problem.
Razer Habu: Ok if you have high mouse sens, bad optics, bad drivers, everything is just bad except the shape.
Razer death adder (one I use at the moment): Very nice, no negative accell. I have to move my mouse two feet (60cm) in a very short space of time (as fast as seems humanly possible for me) and it doesn't skip. It's accurate. Everything I like about it, except underneath the button for me - if I press it. The mouse self destructs. I had it replaced, but I don't dare press the button again. Don't let this put you off though, I think they released a bad batch.

Microsoft IE3: It's good, but i would get death adder now. You can tweak this to 1/ms 1000hz, but it won't live for so long.

In short:

Top of the range logitech mouse (don't go wireless) won't let you down but keep in mind the shape. I won't buy logitech mice, I prefer razer over them.

I had sponsorship in razer, but I would recommend them anyway. I would recommend a diamondback if the shape is ok. Failing that, go with a deathadder.

Do not go with that fatal1ty mouse, it's crap. do not go with the creative one either.

DeathShadowX

DeathShadowX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Do not get a mouse with buttons on the side, it can be a hassle if you like to snipe in fps, though it can have its uses in mmorpgs and rts games. In my opinion, you should get a USB optical mouse, [I use a regular Logitech usb optical] and it works fantastic. You should probably save your money and get this, it costs only $20, and works like a $200 mouse. Regardless of your choice, you should strongly consider a USB mouse and not wireless[they are too much hassle]. If you want i can give you the model of the $20 usb mouse i got, it really works like a charm, especially for sniping.

elektra_lucia

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Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

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There is nothing up with side buttons on a mouse, though razer diamondback side buttons are bad. It really doesn't matter for sniping.

Check out:

www.fnatic.com
www.fatal1ty.com
www.esreality.com
There is info there on mice. You will notice that pretty much all top players will use a mice with side buttons now.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
You can see (both these players use mice with side buttons by the way) that there isn't really problems because of side buttons interfearing. This video is maybe a bad example because he's vs the worlds best player of that game, and it's kinda hard to aim vs him =P.
Quote:
Do not get a mouse with buttons on the side,
Uh? Can be used for pipe bind or drop weapons >.<.
As far as I know, Forest uses Krait (like deathadder). HeatoN (worlds best CS player) uses microsoft IE3, desktrukt IE3, Lauke IE3. The shape is really nice, that's partly why I went for deathadder =D.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...25377055726088
Pretty sure in this match, Astz is using a diamondback.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...14184211212399
Microsoft IE3
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
Krait (I think).

All with side buttons, so...

You can disable them with software if you don't like them.

eggrolls

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

I used the MX510 for almost three years. It broke, but Logitech was nice enough to send me a MX518 as a replacement. If they didn't, I'd buy the G5 with two side buttons.

Whatever you do, make sure you hold the mouse in your hand before buying it. Don't just buy whatever the pros use.

nightwind13x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

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I have the MX518 for a while now and wouldnt consider switching to anything else even if offered free.

Scarlet Waffle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
I've been thinking about purchasing a gaming mouse, mainly for GW and Team Fortress 2, both of which I'm playing on a laptop. So I checked Amazon, and found that the most popular mouse is the Logitech MX518. Anybody have this mouse? Or does anyone have any opinions or recommendations/suggestions on which I should purchase? Much thanks.
I got one for free with my laptop...
Works great

{IceFire}

{IceFire}

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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I have a G5, fricking awesome.

Ranger Rog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

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I have the latest G5 with the 2 side buttons and it's a fantastic mouse. The weight cartridge system is a complete gimick but It's still the best mouse I ever used.

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

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The weight cartridge system is actually useful for some. I had to pull my 510 apart because it weighed too much.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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I'm currently looking at the G5, MX518, and Deathadder.. all seem great, and I still can't decide.

Thanks for the recommendations, suggestions, etc guys.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

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Sorry for this double post, but I've decided on getting the Deathadder. Now I'm looking at pads :P

Razer exactmat/exactrest or this Steelpad thing I keep reading about in all the Deathadder reviews..

Abuh

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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I use a corepad magna with my G5 with the teflon feet.
I lurve it myself

Pads are pretty personal aswell though. I prefer hardpads but i know some people that only want to use softpads.

Socomruled Xi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Netherlands

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Logitech G5. Best one. works Great !

lordpwn

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Join Date: Mar 2007

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I have a Logitech G5 myself but I'd recommend the MX518. The G5 is great otherwise but the fancy tiltwheel is probably one of the worst mouse wheels I've ever used - it loses sync between the wheel "bumps" and what the OS gets after about one hour of heavy use, sometimes making it suddenly scroll when I try to wheel click something. I hear the MX518 doesn't have this problem.

elektra_lucia

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Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

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For mousemat:

Icemat for me is too small, it's 30CM wide. It's really nice if you want to get into competitive GW because the mouse moves so smoothly; however, it can hurt your wrist. It really hurts mine. So I wouldn't recommend it. I also had to take the feet off the bottom, to make it lower.

These mats are similar: fnatic titan, destrukt, fat pad. I use a destrukt mat 45CM wide simply because I'm too cheap to get another, but if I was, I'd go for a new fnatic titan.

QCK Heavy (steelpad) is nice, but it's texture seems to change over a time which is a great problem for me. Over time the mouse will be harder to move. I would say my destruct hasn't changed very much over time. It also doesn't wear out the feet like an ice mat will.

http://everglide.co.uk

I know this is a UK site, but for America you can get something very similar from www.fatal1ty.com (fatpad) and the pad is much cheaper than in England.

https://store.fatal1ty.com/accessories.aspx

Your location says EST, so I would probably get the fatpad if I was you :]. Again, depends on how much space you have too...

I prefer to lower my sens right up and move mouse with my shoulder / arm / and finally wrist if I really need to make small movements rather than doing it all by wrist. So for me a bigger mouse mat is better. If you don't move mouse much then you can perhaps get away with a smaller mat. The larger ones tend to last longer, if they fray around the edges, the middle still works fine for years.

Quote:
Logitech G5. Best one. works Great !
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=17
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1300293&page=4
http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1300293&page=5

As you see, it's not the best one. I personally can't play with a G5 because I move it quickly and it malfunctions. Any G5. .

Quote:
Sorry for this double post, but I've decided on getting the Deathadder. Now I'm looking at pads :P
Deathadder is a good choice, just be careful of that button underneath (you don't need to use it anyways). They might of fixed it in latest firmware, but it's best not to use it. No need to it .

hellyea526

hellyea526

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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i was tryin to choose between the G5 and the MX518, ended up choosing the MX518 and its been perfect

lord_shar

lord_shar

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Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

I just picked up a Deathadder earlier this week, and it has worked flawlessly for TF2, QuakeET, and GW.

elektra_lucia

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Join Date: Feb 2006

England

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http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofivers...p/t405363.html

http://www.gotfrag.com/portal/files/82/

You might want to try one of them (don't use both) too. :]. Removes mouse acceleration.

lord_shar

lord_shar

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Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

I just grabbed a Logitech G9 for my 2nd PC. It's a fantastic mouse as far as the optical sensor, ergo-shape, and buttons are concerned. However, the adjustable grip "shells" are a bit weird since they attach slightly loose when fitted over the G9's hardware. I had to put rolled tape on its interior side to remove the slack. I plan on buying some rubber-feet at my local Fry's Electronics for a more permanent solution.

EDIT: Just installed some felt pads from the hardware store, and it worked like a charm to remove the grip shell slack. Now the G9 feels much more solid

Pickle

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Scotland

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Had a G5, it got old so I decided to buy another mouse, G5 revised or G9, I chose the G9. And I have not looked back.

Brandon7s

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Join Date: Dec 2007

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Just bought a Razer Deathadder today, after using a Logitech MX310 for many years. The MX310 was a heck of a reliable and comfortable mouse, but I just wanted to try something difference - like slurging on a fancy mouse. I mainly play Call of Duty 4 and CS (HL1), and I can definitely tell there is a difference in sensitivity to my movements with the new Deathadder. Smooth, and precise. I really like the placement of the 2 extra buttons near the thumb too. Gotta have at least one there, for the ol' knife in both COD4 and CS. - they managed to place two of them there though, without an issue of accidental pressing, while still being comfortable to reach.

Hott Bill

Hott Bill

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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All you need to know is do NOT buy a mouse with a smooth scroll (as opposed to bumpy) Because bumpy scrolls help in first person shooters, with switching weapons.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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You mean digital ( increments ) vs analog ( wheel can be w/e position )?

lord_shar

lord_shar

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near SF, CA

The G9 (and other logitech mice using its scroll wheel design) can adjust between smooth vs. indexed scroll wheel movement... just press a button under the mouse while pressing the scroll wheel. Quick and painless. It also has left/right scroll wheel axis control, but I don't use this feature.

I also grabbed a Lachesis just to add to my mouse collection. It is a very quick, agile mouse. The narrowed center does make it a bit awkward for people with larger hands, but it has been a solid performer otherwise.

Coloneh

Coloneh

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Sorry for this double post, but I've decided on getting the Deathadder. Now I'm looking at pads :P
good choice! i love my deathadder. how large are your hands though? i have rather long fingers, and my hand does develop a slight cramp after a few hours of playing something intense, no problem in gw.

as for a surface, it really dosnt matter that much, im using something i found at office max for less than ten bucks, it works fine even at the highest DPI and sensitivity settings.