N/W vs. W/N

From what I hear the only thing that N/W has over W/N is energy... and coolness (BIAS BIAS BIAS). The warrior has strength which is like totally > than Soul reaping. But if you think about it, if all an N/W has over W/N is energy, then soul reaping can help a bit. And as for strength, doesn't that Necromancer's attacks ignore blood already O_O?

As for armor, of course W/N will overpower N/W, but N/W can use health regeneration skills as their healing. However, the health regeneration skills (main ones are blood renewal, life siphon yeah lets go witht that), count as enchantments and hexes, so if they're removed, you're dead XD. Also, most hexes have casting times and can be interrupted (OUCH OUCH OUCH), not very cool . These fact, however, can be conquered if you use instant attacks like vampire gaze, touch.

The W/N, on the other side, is stuck with Healing Signet. He only has 20 energy and using even 5 energy spells can be extremely deadly to their energy pool. Now, if you're relying on healing signet to survive, you are giong to run into problems. Ever heard of Mesmers or Rangers? The good side though is that you have more slots for damaging skills and can do more damage.

Speaking of skills, a N/W must and definately must have a healing skill or you will die. Curses, Blood are great trees for healing (with curses being more pvp since the cast times are usually longer) and should be used more to their maximum potential. THATS RIGHT MORE THAN YOUR ATTACK SKILL! If you can't heal, even though you may be interrupted or dehexified/enchantified, no healing is like you running naked with no weapon on into the battle field. There is, a very helpful thing about your healing methods. Most of your healing methods will do degeneration at the same time. Damage while you heal, is probably the best form of heal. Even a little can pressure ur opponent.

If you are looking for a weapon, the best is probably sword because of the extra conditions you can imply onto your opponent (muhahaha), and if you want to use tactics (for riposte + deadly riptoste, and maybe even some of the skills). Also, if you use sword, maybe you can throw in Virulence to do even mroe conditions XP. With a sword that isn't hard ha ha. If you're a fan of axe and hammer don't panic as well. Hammer can stun your opponent (less damage is always better), and axe can link up nice combos too .

W/N's skills are probably only going to be Plaque touch, Healing Signet (or just rely on the monk), eh maybe ressurection sig + ATTACK SKILLS. Because you must rely on your damage skills to do damage, damage skills are going to make up for your lack of healing (not saying healing sigs bad or anything...). So if you can kill ur opponent quick, it will make your life easier.

I suggest Axe for a weapon, but you are free to pick whatever. Sword are good for conditions, and of course FT, but if you take too long to kill your opponent, tides will flip and YOU will be the one feeling the pain, you can go sword and virulence though, it doesn't cost too much and will rip your opponent apart. Hammer is great too, you can interrupt your opponent with knock downs and screw up their combos. Hey, knockdowns can screw up their healings as well .

So all in all it comes mainly down to:

armor + melee damage versus energy + hexes + enchantments

Both have their ups and downs, but its a matter of opinion.

Please tell me more about these two classes if you know more (Hey, I'm learning too!).

YAYYYYYY

Fighting with a sword doesnt really pan out too well with a necro

Why can't people just play the class how it was MEANT to be played, a necro was never intended/made to be a melee combatant. For one their armor is way to low, and so what you can cast more spells than a W/N your still going to get bashed into the ground. Seriously a necro uses a wand/focus or a staff. not a Sword and Shield and run into battle. Thats like taking a wammo and designating him/her as the healer.... doesn't work that way. But whatever, play as you will, I just do not see the need to take a spell caster and turn him into a tank.

Let's revisit the obvious.

For the Warrior let's go 12, 9, 9 for sword (100% damage with weapon), tactics (full shield value) and Strength.
For the Necro let's go 12 blood, 9 sword (~70% damage with weapon) and 9 tactics (full shield value).

Warriors have 80 armor base + AL 16 shield = 96 AL
Necros have 60 armor base + AL 16 shield = 76 AL

This equates to Necros taking ~25% more damage than a Warrior of the same skillset.

Energy isn't a big deal to a Warrior for healing as he uses Lions Comfort (60 healing @5 adrenaline) or Healing Signet (107 healing), two fairly quickly recharged skills that take no energy. Since there isn't a dependency on a huge energy pool they will take most likely take insignias to reduce damage (knight's), increase hp (survivor's) or most likely take AL improvers (Stalward, Sentry, Brawler, Dreadnought or Sentinel) increasing the survivability of the class. Runes will likely be minors with Vitaes and a Vigor for maximum hp.

Being as though the Necro needs 25% more healing, he's completely dependent on energy for skills that steal life without giving up any or needs to have more support to rejuvenate. Since there is a dependence on energy, insignias will likely be radiant; runes will likely include Attunement.

When it comes to damage inflicted, where the 3 point difference in weapon skills equates to an ~23% difference in damage, before counting the additional 9% (1 per point of strength) of armor penetration that the warrior receives from Strength. Add in the added effectiveness of attack skills and more effectiveness out of IAS such as Flail, the DPS on the Warrior far exceeds the Necro.

In melee situations Necros do less damage, take more damage, have an energy dependency and have fewer hitpoints than Warriors performing the same function. Necros are better away from the action where they can cast spells/hexes or raise minions without the annoyances of melee (interruptions, knockdowns and damage).

Cheers,
TB

This is like comparing an A-10 Thunderbolt II 'Warthog' to the Sputnik.

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Just go W/N

[skill]triple chop[/skill][skill]penetrating chop[/skill][skill]penetrating blow[/skill][skill]mark of pain[/skill][skill]barbs[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]"watch yourself!"[/skill]


And you WIN! lolz

More like comparing the class WoW Nerd to the Varsity Linebacker.

The only time a Necro's damage output in melee range will be comparable to that of a warrior's, is playing a dark aura build. Since that build is usually more trouble than it's worth, you should never be trying to melee with a necro. If you're trying to get in close without dark aura, your damage won't match that of a warrior's, your lack of armor will chew up your monk's energy, and you'll probably be a burden to your team.

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I swear to god if I see one more person even so much as think about a melee mancer I will kill myself. Once my rage tainted soul reaches whatever infernal realm it is destined for I will overthrow whatever dark lord reigns there and lash together a terrible machine of flesh and blood and human sorrows. I will use this engine of fear to bore a hole from that realm to this one and all they will hear is the sound of a thousand children screaming as if in the distance as a pustulant cloud of acrid smoke billows from the ceiling above their bed. I will step forth in all my glory and let them tremble in fear before being incinerated by my radiance, and as tears of bubbling pitch stream down my cheeks I will open up my six mouths and sing the song that ends the whole damned world!

Melee mancers are bad ideas! Don't make me destroy you! I'll do it! You'll see.

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