Hardcore mode..

Acolyte of Zero

Acolyte of Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

HoPe

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Hi, I've played GW for about 3months now.

Ive played so many online games and I think this game pretty fun,
but I find it a bit 'not thrilling enough'.

to tell you the truth, I just loved the 'hardcore mode' in diablo2.. and this might be stealing idea or w/e but I think it would be great if GW has them too.

the 'hardcore mode' deal is this.. your character dies once, your character is gone forever.(or accessible as ghost or something but can not go out of outposts)
This might sound retarded to some of you, but once you beat the game, once you already achieved the titles and armors u wanted, you have to admit the game becomes a bit boring
and you will seek some thrill and true challenge.

If they open up a seperate server this way, it could be a new fresh start for everybody,
plus items will have lot more value and it will be pretty interesting.
They should also implement some ranking system that ranks the people in the highest level(or highest exp. gained after lv20) and whoever lost their character with a death, their name still remains in the ranking but with a death mark or something until someone passes their rank.

I know this is pretty much like how diablo2 hardcore mode is.. but I really loved playing diablo2 this way.. by far it was the best thrilling experience in my whole gaming life,
you almost wanna hit some1 in the head when you die and lose your hard worked character, but nothing makes u feel more pro than having a high lvl character in a hardcore mode and its the best thrill/challenge you will ever encounter.

I know it won't happen.. but Im just dreaming about it.. maybe if lot of you agrees with me,
maybe, maybe.

Saphrium

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

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there is a hard mode, but you need to beat the game i think.

change it at the party window.

SimonSez

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Sweden

Special Attack Division [SAD]

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Gear up your PvE char and go PvP with your Elite Armor and that rare weapon u like Thats my goal at GW atm.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

This is a bad idea imo. Why would we want to lose our high end characters that we have spent 1000+ hours building up just because we died once? No thanks.

hallomik

hallomik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

The Illini Tribe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acolyte of Zero
the 'hardcore mode' deal is this.. your character dies once, your character is gone forever.(or accessible as ghost or something but can not go out of outposts)
The closest thing Guild Wars has to this concept is Legendary Survivor. The difference is, if you die, you just have a regular toon.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Survivor

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

I would hurt myself if this was implemented.
It would be like an enforced survivor mode.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Survivor + hard mode.
Enjoy

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acolyte of Zero
Hi, I've played GW for about 3months now.

Ive played so many online games and I think this game pretty fun,
but I find it a bit 'not thrilling enough'.

to tell you the truth, I just loved the 'hardcore mode' in diablo2.. and this might be stealing idea or w/e but I think it would be great if GW has them too.

the 'hardcore mode' deal is this.. your character dies once, your character is gone forever.(or accessible as ghost or something but can not go out of outposts)
This might sound retarded to some of you, but once you beat the game, once you already achieved the titles and armors u wanted, you have to admit the game becomes a bit boring
and you will seek some thrill and true challenge.

If they open up a seperate server this way, it could be a new fresh start for everybody,
plus items will have lot more value and it will be pretty interesting.
They should also implement some ranking system that ranks the people in the highest level(or highest exp. gained after lv20) and whoever lost their character with a death, their name still remains in the ranking but with a death mark or something until someone passes their rank.

I know this is pretty much like how diablo2 hardcore mode is.. but I really loved playing diablo2 this way.. by far it was the best thrilling experience in my whole gaming life,
you almost wanna hit some1 in the head when you die and lose your hard worked character, but nothing makes u feel more pro than having a high lvl character in a hardcore mode and its the best thrill/challenge you will ever encounter.

I know it won't happen.. but Im just dreaming about it.. maybe if lot of you agrees with me,
maybe, maybe.
This is GW not diablo2 what you dream of is rubbish.
The Screaming so called power gamers hardcore gamers already whined so much they got hard mode.
This idea is just bad why would all games be build on the milestone of a power gamer.
Flame me kill me shoot me but IMO Power gamer hardcore gamer ideas are rubbish there needs just can't be satisfied they always want more after this you demand a mode that is just 1HK from mobs.

so /NOT SIGNT

Performance Pudding

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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none of you actually read what he posted... it would be optional and there would be rankings, if you dont want to try then you dont have to. it might even enable the possibility of another character slot.
Note sparda posted while i was righting this way to comment on what he actually posted.

Sparda

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Performance Pudding
none of you actually read what he posted... it would be optional and there would be rankings, if you dont want to try then you dont have to. it might even enable the possibility of another character slot.
Note sparda posted while i was righting this way to comment on what he actually posted.
yes i read it i do not care if it's optional or a different server with a fresh start.
It's the idea and it's a fact that that type of players is never satisfied.
When this is idea is made reality over 2 month they have a way to own that mode and ask a Uber hardcore mode.

wilebill

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Hmmm ... EVE Online ... you get your ship shot out from under you, it is gone! Your cargo too. And if they kill your escape pod, you are gone too, permanent dead! You come back into the game as a clone, get some insurance money (not enough), and have to put together a new ship from scratch. You do this once ... twice ... it gets old.

Lord Sojar

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Hell Mode: All Monsters have Base Defense. You lose.

RTSFirebat

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Why is this here? Shouldn't it be in the suggestions forum?

Also your idea doesn't sound like "fun"... it sounds like stress.

leprekan

leprekan

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Also your idea doesn't sound like "fun"... it sounds like stress.
LOL, What I thought too. Yeah, would be great to take my warrior out and die and have wasted the more than 3,000 hours played on him alone. Now that is FUN! Only played for 3 months and that bored already? Think that is a definite sign Anet has dumbed the game down to the point of it not being worth playing if he has done all that is worth doing in 3 months.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

... Lawlz no.
You want thrills: play in traffic. Guild Wars is not an extreme sport.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Why do you need the game to enforce this? Why don't you just set yourself the challenge of playing through without dying, and deleting your character if you die?

Seems daft implementing something that happens automatically when you can just do it yourself.

Steboy93

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Seems like an awful idea which nobody else has any interest in...

Cebe

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
... Lawlz no.
You want thrills: play in traffic. Guild Wars is not an extreme sport.
...unlike Ironing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
When this is idea is made reality over 2 month they have a way to own that mode and ask a Uber hardcore mode.
We all know this to be true. A week into Hardcore Mode Anet will be demeed to be "catering too much for the casual player" and "can't they make a harder mode". And so the cycle continues.

I agree with RTS, it's a suggestion, and should be in Sardelac.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Too much opportunities for ganking.

william1975

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Well i certainly would not move any of my charcters to usign amode like that.

And while i may be interested in creating one to go through it, i would certaily be bored silly after a few deaths and having a useless character slot, where if i keep the character i cant use them for anythign other than storage, or i have to delete them and restart, thereby losing the opportunity of a lovely minipet.

Acolyte of Zero

Acolyte of Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

HoPe

P/W

to first it off, im not a 'never satisfying' player.
I never complained a bit about GW, even when millions of others complained about how gw:en sucked or w/e.
I bet none of u played the hardcore in diablo2
caz most of ppl who played it be4 knows how much it rules.

even if it was implemented I dont see why and how it would hurt the community anwyays,
if u dont like it u dont play it. but ofcourse anet has to be convinced that making this option is worth their time.

oh and with my idea you can't transfer character to this realm,
you have to start from scratch so those whos bored caz they have everything they wanted can get a fresh start, along with everybody else who also has to start from scratch.

and for those who thinks im the whiner whos never satisfied.. i enjoy GW daily and I never posted anythin against this game or anet, go look at my posts u'll find none.

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
I bet none of u played the hardcore in diablo2
caz most of ppl who played it be4 knows how much it rules.
This isn't Diablo 2

Quote:
you have to start from scratch so those whos bored caz they have everything they wanted can get a fresh start
Anybody who agrees with this please raise your hand.
Want to start from scratch? Create another character ^^

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

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Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Survivor + hard mode.
Enjoy
LoL. What else is there to say?

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

This was suggested since beta, and right up until survivor was added.

The main appeal of this has always been for pvp, so that killing someone gives some people the real thrill.

In GW, it doesn't make any sense. Anyone can be killed real fast. You cannot grind up your gear or make other preparations.

There's survivor title track and /deaths. Use that, it does the same.

Quote:
but I really loved playing diablo2 this way.. by far it was the best thrilling experience in my whole gaming life,
Battle.net is still running. Play that.

Quote:
but nothing makes u feel more pro than having a high lvl character in a hardcore mode
And how do you see this "high level" character in GW? After 3 months, you should know that level doesn't matter, that gear is normalized, and that you have a choice of builds.

Where would this thrill be?

Go for legendary survivor, but with a twist - level it up in PvP.

Quote:
caz most of ppl who played it be4 knows how much it rules.
Some people also know how to spell. I suggest this becomes a feature. Try it - you might find it a challenge bigger than hardcore.

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

It would be funny though to see every group have 3 monks (at least one bonding the whole party) 2 paragons with SY!, TntF!, and ToF! up all the time, 2 obsidian flesh tanks and only 1 damage dealer, uber invincibility ftw! Of course everyone logs out immediately if one of the obs tanks takes more then 10% damage. Assassins may actually beat mesmer for least played class in hardcore mode.

/notsigned, we have survivor

Zabe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

In world with nothing to do except poker

W/Rt

The system worked in diablo where there is ladders and its 99.9% about PvE whole game. In GW it wouldn't work as in diablo, because it's so different game.

Don't still take it to yourself, half of the people posting on this topic doesn't realize what it was there and how good it was. But I agree with them there that it wouldn't work in GW, the game is too different.

Somewhat similar what you want is survivor title.

I will still /sign this idea, even tho it will never be implemented and I think it wouldn't even work =P

Ace2001

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

D/W

I think one thing the poster doesn't understand is that, in Diablo2, it's freakin crazy how quickly you can level. tristan runs, cow level runs, Baal runs (though most actually stop before killing Baal, they're just there to kill off his minions) you could get to max level within a day if you've got nothing better to do, maybe 2 days. So with so LITTLE time put into your character, of course nobody gives a shit if they die in some "SUPER-GOD-LEVEL THAT ONLY US 133T NERDS CAN USE, LAWLS." when they can just remake the exact same character within 2-3 days time AND complete most/all of the game's story line. GW takes a far greater amount of time to complete the story line(s), and in GW you can't have runeworded armors that give you the thorns aura, or the defence aura, etc. etc. on you, your henchie, etc. So you can't make one character into the ultimate "HOMG TANK I PWN" character. You actually have to relly on a team most of the time, and if just one person screws up, you're all screwed. (usualy.) So a "Hardcore lose your character" Game mode makes since in a Diablo2 type of game where you could so-freakin-easily remake that same character in just a few days time, but not in GuildWars.

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

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Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
...unlike Ironing.


We all know this to be true. A week into Hardcore Mode Anet will be demeed to be "catering too much for the casual player" and "can't they make a harder mode". And so the cycle continues.

I agree with RTS, it's a suggestion, and should be in Sardelac.
http://www.extremeironing.com/

Ironing is DANGEROUS dude.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

OK

Survivor
Starter Armor
Hard Mode

you delete your char by yourself once you die. gogo, there you got your hardcore mode. also you may obviously not do it with any henchies and are forced to pug your way through for additional nightmares

..too hardcore? maybe without the pug part.

Acolyte of Zero

Acolyte of Zero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

HoPe

P/W

ok I guess some of u have the point, that d2 and GW is a bit too different.

also in diablo2 u can be godly by urself if u got the lvl and the items(except for near-end hell)
where GW nobody is godly and its really team-play based. And thats what makes GW a great game afterall.. caz every1's at same lvl20 and if u wanna differ and stand out u gotta be really good.

I still think it'd be fun though, but I knew I was jus dreamin anyways

PureEvilYak

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The problem here being that it is a LOT easier to die in GW than it is in Diablo. This would be pointless, people might go in by mistake and die, be taken in by someone who wanted to without their knowing and die... And even those who volunteered would be pretty annoyed when they failed. It would just mean a lot of stress and irritation.

RedNova88

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparda
yes i read it i do not care if it's optional or a different server with a fresh start.
It's the idea and it's a fact that that type of players is never satisfied.
When this is idea is made reality over 2 month they have a way to own that mode and ask a Uber hardcore mode.
It's true. Hardcore gamers are called hardcore for a reason. Because their hunger for more difficult challenges cannot be sated... And once you're done with whatever you've just finished... You'll seek out something else that's more powerful. It's just like being addicted to a drug.

MithranArkanere

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'Hardcore' do not fit the 'no irreversible consecuence' GW policy.

You abandon a quest, you can take it later.
You fail a quest, you may retry it later.
You choose a secondary profession, you may change it later.
You increase an attribute, you may change attributes later.

Conclusive things do not fit GW.

If you don't like a game where you can't die... then you don't play that game.

On top of that, a lag hit is nough to help a bunch of level 10 creatures to wipe a 8 level 20 player party.

Solas

Solas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
... Lawlz no.
You want thrills: play in traffic. Guild Wars is not an extreme sport.
lmao,nice

but yeah, i would not play this at all as i get annoyed really easily by repeating things.

but you cna always do it by yourself can't you as in play if you die /remake ?

Sparda

Sparda

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Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedNova88
It's true. Hardcore gamers are called hardcore for a reason. Because their hunger for more difficult challenges cannot be sated... And once you're done with whatever you've just finished... You'll seek out something else that's more powerful. It's just like being addicted to a drug.
true true but this kind of play doesn't add content to the game.
Just like hard mode it isn't new content it a mode that makes existing content harder and unpleasant to play.
I'm just a big fan of some good added content haven't seen it since Nightfall (DoA)

Sorry that my reply is offtopic but it's just something on my mind.

Div

Div

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acolyte of Zero
They should also implement some ranking system that ranks the people in the highest level(or highest exp. gained after lv20) and whoever lost their character with a death, their name still remains in the ranking but with a death mark or something until someone passes their rank.
Oh ok. So only 55 farmer bots would be on this list.

Nemo the Capitalist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saphrium
there is a hard mode, but you need to beat the game i think.

change it at the party window.

u need to be at llv 20

shmek

shmek

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Acolyte of Zero
Hi, I've played GW for about 3months now.

Ive played so many online games and I think this game pretty fun,
but I find it a bit 'not thrilling enough'.

to tell you the truth, I just loved the 'hardcore mode' in diablo2.. and this might be stealing idea or w/e but I think it would be great if GW has them too.

the 'hardcore mode' deal is this.. your character dies once, your character is gone forever.(or accessible as ghost or something but can not go out of outposts)
This might sound retarded to some of you, but once you beat the game, once you already achieved the titles and armors u wanted, you have to admit the game becomes a bit boring
and you will seek some thrill and true challenge.

If they open up a seperate server this way, it could be a new fresh start for everybody,
plus items will have lot more value and it will be pretty interesting.
They should also implement some ranking system that ranks the people in the highest level(or highest exp. gained after lv20) and whoever lost their character with a death, their name still remains in the ranking but with a death mark or something until someone passes their rank.

I know this is pretty much like how diablo2 hardcore mode is.. but I really loved playing diablo2 this way.. by far it was the best thrilling experience in my whole gaming life,
you almost wanna hit some1 in the head when you die and lose your hard worked character, but nothing makes u feel more pro than having a high lvl character in a hardcore mode and its the best thrill/challenge you will ever encounter.

I know it won't happen.. but Im just dreaming about it.. maybe if lot of you agrees with me,
maybe, maybe.
Sounds like you need to make a legendary survivor by playing the game and not some cheap gimicking.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

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Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

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good gods no! /notsigned

gloria vander belt

Banned

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Dragons Lair

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/not signed just retarded