Snares useful in PvE?

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

I'm starting to get to the point in some areas of PvE when I'm feeling I might need some sort of snare.

In Dungeons of GW:EN in particular... I regularly come across enemies who will run around all over the place in the middle of battle or promptly make a beeline out of battle (or worse, into aggro range of another patrol), and I end up wasting my time just charging after them. I only manage to kill them at all in some cases because I always bring Dash and can, for 3 out of every 8 seconds, run faster than they do.
It is starting to get just a wee bit irritating...

But does it justify bringing a Snare into PvE?
Would I be better exchanging in one of the Mantis leads and Wild Strike instead of Golden Phoenix Strike?
Does anyone else have such an issue with kiting monsters?

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]

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I think they are very useful, I often saved my monks from sprinting hard mode critters that way. I recall running bull's strike in PvE and actually using it a LOT. I often bring water eles too. When I play assassin myself I don't leave home without siphon speed.

Wakka

Wakka

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Northern Ireland

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I was doing the quests in SF last night for my Moa Chick for my Ranger. Decided to go cripshot and it worked wonders.

Not only does it stop enemies kiting. It also relieves a whole bunch of pressure off your monks and other team members. So I suppose this could be applied to your Sin? Maybe even bring Grasping Earth for an AoE snare?

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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Belgium

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I always bring LMS & Dash.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I always bring LMS & Dash. So what are you sacrificing for that?

My typical bar, in precise order... is:

Way of Perfection
Dash (ALWAYS takes the second slot for easy W>2 access)
Golden Phoenix Strike
Critical Strike
Moebius Strike
Death Blossom
Critical Agility
Critical Defenses


What do you do differently?
The Moebius + DB combo is still total PvE standard, isn't it?

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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Belgium

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geniune pve: LMS, ES, MS, DB, finish him, dash, crit agility, res.

Utaku

Utaku

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Paris, France

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my guess :
[skill]leaping mantis sting[/skill][skill]exhausting assault[/skill][skill]moebius strike[/skill][skill]death blossom[/skill][skill]impale[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]critical agility[/skill]

Edit, you posted just before me Yan 'cause I used the freaking tags, but I wasn't far....

kosh

kosh

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edit: didnt notice this was under sin section ^^ anyhow Caltrops is nice for aoe snares.

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
geniune pve: LMS, ES, MS, DB, finish him, dash, crit agility, res. Ah.... I see.
You don't use Critical Strike.
I suppose it isn't always necessary, but I do rather like having it in some places as a guaranteed way to keep Critical Agility (and Critical Defenses) up... not to mention getting double the Way of Perfection heal.

jesh

jesh

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What about making a hero snare instead?
If I feel like I need one in the map I'll be on, I put Pin Down on Jin. She already has BHA and Epidemic anyhow.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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Snares are good in pve. though i wish I could snare my heros sometimes.......Gwen in paticular. They keep bosses from running away into another mob and can stop charr prison guards from running at making me chase after them.

bungusmaximus

bungusmaximus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva
Snares are good in pve. though i wish I could snare my heros sometimes.......Gwen in paticular. They keep bosses from running away into another mob and can stop charr prison guards from running at making me chase after them. Flags are king, I assume you already put them on guard? But sometimes you just gotta 'regroup'. Heroes love overextending, they just wanna kill whatever you tell them to kill even if it exposes them.

TheLichMonky

TheLichMonky

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Does it matter?

Im to good for guilds

It depends on the enemies... and your teams build

SotiCoto

SotiCoto

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Drazach Thicket

Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
What about making a hero snare instead?
If I feel like I need one in the map I'll be on, I put Pin Down on Jin. She already has BHA and Epidemic anyhow.
Good point.
I just wish there was a Water Ele henchie. Most of the time I can't afford to free up a Hero slot for one (Searing Flames Eles and Minion Master take priority, as do Paragons).

I suppose I should have specified though: Is it worth MY bringing a Snare on my Sin?



Quote:
Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Flags are king, I assume you already put them on guard? But sometimes you just gotta 'regroup'. Heroes love overextending, they just wanna kill whatever you tell them to kill even if it exposes them. Sometimes they ignore flags. It isn't my favourite of circumstances and usually leads to absurd Hero deaths.

Coloneh

Coloneh

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I just wish there was a Water Ele henchie. Most of the time I can't afford to free up a Hero slot for one (Searing Flames Eles and Minion Master take priority, as do Paragons). run mind blast + rodgort then. that allows for 4 entire skill slots of utility like snares.

Skuld

Skuld

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I like Essence of Celerity + Caltrops (with Blinding Powder aswell this is quite potent ^^)

Sir Pandra Pierva

Sir Pandra Pierva

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bungusmaximus
Flags are king, I assume you already put them on guard? But sometimes you just gotta 'regroup'. Heroes love overextending, they just wanna kill whatever you tell them to kill even if it exposes them. Even then my GWEN goes aggro RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO. She is on guard.