Money problems, they just keep on coming...

I dont understand how to make money in this game -.- Honestly, the only money i get is from selling sum mob items to npcs, thats it. I cant farm cuz only got faction skills, warrior. I purchased full luxon set, bought new weapon which got me down to 10k. I dont even know if i wanna use the weapon cuz it has fire dmg and best thing to do is to switch to ele as secondary.

So i need money to switch professions, and skills cost 800g each, omg -.- I feel so bad buying skills lol. Im trying make up some build for possible farming but need skills, etc. Everything is expensive and i dont get how to make money...

well you can live with only one kidney, so ....

anyway, check the wikipedia and have a look at some builds there or in the farming section here

There's lots of ways to make money.

Farming
Merchanting(buying something cheap then selling it for more)
Questing

But the real question is DO you need the money?

I'm sure you can come up with a decent Warrior farming build with factions only skills. Many of them are twins of Prophecies skills anyway. Check out the builds section and see what's there.

Next thing is, learn what items sell for. You can make a lot more by selling things, such as crafting materials, to other players. Weapons mods, especially perfect ones, can bring in a nice chunk of change (even something as mundane as a fiery bow string can get 500 - 1,000g)

You don't need to switch professions just because your axe deals fire damage, so no worries there.

Check out some of the farming threads to see where folks are making the big bucks. Learn which weapons are rare skinned and sought after (Ventari Sell section of these forums has prices for just about everything) and keep an eye out for any that may drop for you. (I sold an Elemental Sword to the merchant before I found out how much people wer paying for them )

Playing in the higher end areas of the game will also improve your cash flow.

Farming is the quick way, but nobody says it's the only way. Grab a team and henchies and go kill everything. Pick up every drop and then visit a merchant, should you net you between 1 and 2 plat, as well as a fair chunk of xp. Doing it this way, you improve upon your skills, you don't always have to use the same build (which can get very boring) and you can go to more than a select group of locations (which can also get boring).

If you want a specific farming build, check out the following link.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category...farming_builds

many of the builds contain suggestions for possible variants which may or may not include campaign specific variants.

What I did when I was low on cash was grab my 55 Monk and run through some areas.

Factions is fine for farming admitidly I started with around 30k but that was run up to 100k over a short time and all on shing jea island too.

I started farming generally with my ranger just killing everything and selling.
Eventually I settled on the naga which freequently dropped naga pelts which were wanted for a mission in kaining center.

Each day I played I would farm for a little first then play the main game, once I had the max armor I could save everything.

When I reached the right most city of shing jea "zen Dajun" I think its called I started farming seriously.

Killing the Bonesnapper turtles and Kappa there are also a couple of oni there.

Then on to the dragon creatures around the lake more bonesnaps and kappa then on to the naga.
There is a merchant so you can sell anything you want or you can salvage some for materials.
Go to the collectors and get more stuff to sell "keeping all the naga pelts to sell to players"
Do as much as you can manage the back to zen dajun and repeat.

I gritted my teeth and did 3 or 4 runs before playing the game itself.

2 weeks of play gave my my start towards being comfortable money wise.
After 3 weeks I had 100k

Its boring and repetative but its achievable for a solo character all you need to do is run before dying then come back till you beat the groups bit by bit.

Eventiually you can just beat a whole group without too much trouble.
You will get a lot of purple and blue items and a few golds which is a nice bonus.
I salvaged all the usable runes and made up decent weapons to sell.

Takes time but its not that much time and teaches you a lot about what works skill wise for your playing style.

you have a 55 monk with factions only skills eh? whats your build?

You can gain money from playing through the game. e.g. Picking up cash drops, getting collectible items and selling them. Also, about the white drops, use an ID kit and ID them too. It does increase the merchant price by a fair bit, and in the end, it all adds up. It's especially easier to do this in the High End areas later in the game since they drop more, better items, and you might get very lucky and get a rare skin drop.

Once you do get the cash and all, I guess you could start 55ing with the Core skills and use Spoil Victor... Only problem with that is without Prophecies you don't have access to Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond and they're pretty much the staple skills for that bar.

If you're willing to, you could make a new character like an Elementalist and farm vermin with Core+Factions only skills This is the only Factions only build that I could find for farming, sorry.

Play the game. As you struggle you will learn, and with that experience you will figure out better and better ways to make money. Crying here about it won't help much, but your frustration is understandable which keeps the bots in business too....there's a lot of quick fix morons out there that buy gold from websites. Take heed if you are of their ilk (I don't think you are), because ANET is tracking this better and better for banning accounts (finally!!).

Additionally, ANET has good business sense to create drive for you to want to buy the additional editions of the game and thus builds in the problems you speak of to drive you to "need" to buy all the skills. However, you really should be able to play and do just fine with any one continent if you play through the missions. You don't need "the best" of everything to get along fine in game, most stuff is all vain status hype.

GL to ya and stay determined. You'll enjoy the challenge as you go much more then the dweebs that wuss out and go looking to buy gold from players.

There are some basic easy ways to make money, independently from the more advanced ones (farming etc.):
- identify your white items, they usually improve in sale value more than the cost of the use of the identification kit (which is 100/25=4 gold!);
- trade your collectible items to collectors, you can win a lot, e.g. for superior salvage kit;
- think of salvaging the rare items that can give you the weapon modifiers or runes that you need;
- salvaging some items can give you the material you need for armors and weapons (again, check the gwiki for not salvaging stuff that won't give you what you need);
- GWG seling forum for the rare items you're not using (and consider selling un-ID'de items for the ones that are aiming at the wisdom title).

Just have some method and you'll put some money aside every tiem you play. No need to focus on making money, play with a little patience. If necessary, you can always replay some areas.

(btw always pick up your loot! )

I don't farm, I just make sure I pic up all my drops and merch them. Easiest way to make money. I generally end up getting at least 5k minimum every time I play(usually about 3 hours), which might not sound like much, but it saves me grind and I usually get what I want within a week or two.

Farming is really only for the impatient...

Well sounds like you just bought a fiery blade, either its fiery dragon blade or that new fiery blade that came out, in which you can't change it. But if you have another type of blade just mod it differently. I also hope you know that its not that your money getting ways its just that warrior is by far the MOST expensive class.

Money is really easy to obtain these days, although you unfortunately got the worst campaign with not many good gold drops, since now people want inscribable, in which factions weapons aren't inscribable. I think that if you got nightfall you might be able to make a good amount of money using treasure chest running since you can get 30k+ 20 or so gold drops. If not that then just pick a spellcasting character and play that and make more money till you can support your war.

I'm always running out of money now. I used to be so careful with my money, not wanting to pay 1k for new skills, etc. But then i just gave that up, whats the point of having it when you dont spend it? I splurged on EotN armour, and Luxon armour for my Necromancer (stupid Monstrous Fangs costing so much)...

Way I make money:
-Bring out the 55. Right now with Halloween it's excellent for me when I farm Nebo Terrace/Cursed Lands....
-Do quests. Simple money , gets my character's levels up. EotN quests are great for money.
-During special events i sometimes buy items and re-sell them (like with Victory Tokens)

You don't need to farm if you want to get rich. Doing Hard Mode missions and Vanquishing can get you 3-5K a run, and with a little luck even more.
Also questing in the Eye of the North is pretty profitable, some quests give you 1 Platinum reward, and there's even a few that give you an Onyx Gemstone (worth 5K or so).

1. Buy what you need when you need it. Resist to the temptation to buy armor early in the game (i.e. use collectors), buy only those skills that you will immediately use (i.e. you can plan out your builds ahead of time), and most importantly - NEVER buy anything from other players until you can afford to do it.

2. Do every single quest you can do. The rewards provide a ton of money (i.e. I'm talking about 50K or more depending on the campaign). Also - try to do easy things solo (without heroes or henchmen). Even though there is loot scaling, the rewards are still double and triple what you would get with a full party.

By the way, a great way to get cheap and easy money (thanks for the gift Anet!) are the treasures (but only once a month):
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Do_Not_Touch

(and, from my experience, it even seems that a lot of the golds you get unlock runes that you don't have)

Doesn't he only have factions? ...

Where did you read that?

And even if he does, this info may interest everyone.

He probably read in the FIRST post :/

isnt VwK factions? you can make an easy warrior solo farming build with it.

The easiest way to manage your money is by budgeting yourself. Many players get rich quick by applying some basic accounting skills to their personal economies.

1) Separate your equipment wishlist into two columns - what you want, and what you need. For example, a max weapon is an example of a need, but a Leet N00b-Slaying Sword of Uberness is an example of a want.

2) Go down the column of needs, and use the wiki to work out if you could get any of those needs from a collector. Making use of collectors can save an awful lot of money that you can put towards your wants column later.

3) Prioritise your list of wants. Would you rather have some flashier armor, a flashier weapon, or some new skills first? Decide on which of your wants is the greatest, and only go for one want at a time. It's much easier to start budgeting for things if you only have one goal in mind at a time.

4) Work out what your sources of income are and where you can cut corners. Completing quests is one option - you can get a good deal of money this way, and for quests in Factions and Nightfall you can also get commendations from quests that you can trade at quartermasters for adventuring supplies. Needless to say, take advantage of these commendations - you can save an awful lot of money in this way (in the order of several hundred platinum over the course of time) when it comes to ID and salvage kits; the things that you're always going to need to deal with drops, and transmute general drops into more valuable things.

5) If you want to save for some prestige armor or get a weapon crafted, the issue of gathering materials comes up. The general rule of materials is to not buy them unless you absolutely have to. A great deal of different materials drop from monsters, and as you kill these monsters to get the material drops you're looking for you're going to get a lot of other drops as well - raw cash and other miscellaneous items. There are only a few materials that have never been observed to drop from monsters, and these are the ones you need to get in an alternative way (iron, steel, elonian leather, damask etc). For iron or steel, salvage weapon drops. If it looks like it has metal in it, odds are you'll be able to salvage some metal out of it. For other rare materials that never drop like elonian leather, vellum or damask, pay a visit to an artisan before you visit a rare material trader and compare costs. It's possible to save a good deal of money by using one over the other, depending on current prices.

Tips if you accumulate a moderate amount of money and want some nice skinned weapons:

Remember NEVER to EVER buy req 7, 8, or 9 weapons, at least for now. If you want a rare skin go for the high reqs, they do the same everything regarding you meet the requirement and cost a lot cheaper. Also don't buy perfect mods for now, -1 health or -1% percentage is absolutely NOTHING. its a minuscule amount. Only buy max stuff that either not very wanted (vampiric and +armor are the best examples) or sold by some noob who doesn't know pricing. Visit the Giveaway section for some nice high req imperfect stuff, free golds, no cost to you, only problem is you will have to be patient.

My bad!

12 characters

O? and can u help?

I can say that the OP has been very frugle with money regarding skills, since skills still cost 800 gp each for him.

As other people have said, spend only on what is necessary.

Since you don't farm, sell runes you don't use to the rune trader.

I sold my Rune of Minor Vigor to the merchant for 1.8k. So I'm guessing people keep buying them from the traders. Economics plays a part in GW as it does in real life. Supply and demand, accumulate as many materials as possible (sell when you have 250 of 1 material) to the materials guy. Do not sell to the merchant, as the Materials guy may buy from you for more (but only buys 10 at a time).

After buying every single skill I can from Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall (except for the Dervish), and some skills from GWEN, as well as having some 15k armors from some of my characters, I'm still at 150k. It is doable to maintain money, just make sure you sell the right things to the right people at the right times.

Money is only really an issue if you feel you absolutely have to have an armour set/item with a particular skin. You can get prefectly functional armour and weapons that do exactly the same damage/defence from collectors or lower lvl armour crafters. Even better is the tip about actually using higher req weapons you find.

My 2 year old ele runs around in a mix of Droks and some other 1.5k pieces and uses a modded crafter fire staff

Sell EVERYTHING you're not using to a Merchant (excluding ID Kits & Superior Salvage kits).

In the later areas of the game, gold is much easier to come by. Just playing the game the way you are, will continue to net you gold. It's a good idea to try to get some idea of what some items are actually worth - especially if you've been selling gold items to the merchant. Some items are worth a lot more to other players.

Unless that new weapon is a Fiery Dragon Sword or Fiery Gladius (or some other special case), you can change the fire damage part but using a different upgrade - for a Sword, it would be the Hilt.

At any rate, different damage types work differently in various situations. Although some types might be considered "best", the differences are small.
You don't need to change your secondary to use the Fiery weapon.

Absolutely true. I currently have a set of 6 that I can get to. I want to get to another before the next month so I can do it again.

Granted, that means heading to Nightfall, which means getting nightfall.

Here's another thought.

AB and turn your faction into jadeite and sell it.

If you don't have a level 20 toon atm, make one in pvp and go from there. It can become tedious but it really starts to add up if you want to make cash.

As well as doing all the quests - those are also helpful as many have said. You can level up and get cash at the same time (yay)

Kurzick Fast Faction farming. Steady, dependable.

Here's a random tip if you can expert salvage gold runes without breaking the armor and not worth much you can still ID the rune again I find it usually goes 150+ not much but every little helps as well as the armor itself which can be anything from a 100-300 gold. It's not much but every little helps when your strapped for cash right?

I believe they changed that in an update, or so i read, could be wrong since i never tried it. Plus even if they could be separated, there is always the chance that the armor could break and you end up with a bunch of materials or something

Isn't it easier just to go out into an explorable area and kill some monsters. Jadeite sells for like 200 at the RMT, so you sell it to him for something like 150. Not really worth it just to AB to get 150gold IMO.

Great Suggestions and all in this thread, but no one has mentioned running. Running, I find, is way more profitable than running.. I recently started running Droks on my dervish, and I recently bought:

-New 15k armor
-An Urgoz Longbow
-A new caster Zodiac axe for my runner

All of these cost a pretty penny, but by running droks you can make 20k in about 1hour- 1 hour an 30 minutes.. So much efficient than running..

This is the slowest method ever............
Just farm and merchant.......boring but works

Slow? It gives you automatically from 5 to 20k plus 5 to 12 golds. It took me about an hour to do 6 and got 8k and 6 golds. It's only once a month, which does not help if you're playing very often and have to have huge amount of cash, but it's so easy! You do it in addition to farming (which is something I rarely do, since playing the game earn me anough money)

In the category "general method to get the best out of what you find", I noticed that salvaging silk from spider webs costs you the 16 golds corresponding to the cost of using the salvage kit (400/25=16), while selling them to the rare material crafter will earn you 15 (at the moment). Can this be a profitable way to make money for some rare material? (of course You should do that only after you have a big amount of the rare material in your storage account, so as to spare the money to buy them back when you need them, silk costs 100g)

Running can be profitable, but the OP said he only owns Factions. Running is pretty much dead there. One type of running he can do though is mission running. If he can become adept at a particular mission he can charge lazy players to run them thru the mission.

To the OP: My suggestion would be to go ahead and buy the other 2 campaigns. If you enjoy playing this game, you'll find that your world and enjoyment will expand greatly by getting more content and more skills. If money is an issue, just start saving up. The games themselves aren't very expensive when compared to others. (Or start dropping hints for Christmas presents )