Hey guys, Ive really wanted to get into an MMORPG for a while now
so Ive heard about guild wars, and I wanted to test it out on my laptop.
I have a laptop since im in college, except the problem is, it doesnt have the greatest graphics card and since its built into my laptop I can't upgrade it =(
So I really want to try out the game to see if it'll run smoothly on my laptop
but I dont wanna dish out 40 bucks and find out it doesnt run very well
So does anyone have a trial key they could let me use?
To see if the game runs smoothly, becuase if it does, then im going to
buy Guild wars factions.
thanks!
Hi im new to Guildwars!
jonathankimmm
Havre Fras
Ouch, Factions. Thats not the best choice for a new guy. I'd suggest, like most of the people that may reply, that you get Nightfall because of the heroes.
However, you could always buy the Prophesies + EotN set for about the same price, so i'd say go with either.
And yeah I do have a trial key, but unfortuntly i've already used it.
My computer when I got the game wasn't top notch (it isn't now either) but now it runs the game very smooth, and I have crappy PC specs (until xmas, new PC ftw!)
Oh well its upto you.
However, you could always buy the Prophesies + EotN set for about the same price, so i'd say go with either.
And yeah I do have a trial key, but unfortuntly i've already used it.
My computer when I got the game wasn't top notch (it isn't now either) but now it runs the game very smooth, and I have crappy PC specs (until xmas, new PC ftw!)Oh well its upto you.
The Sender
You can get a trial key for all three campaigns at some places, or you can go to http://www.srtest.com and see if your laptop can run it right now.
Unless it's very ancient, it should work. Most decent computers can run Guild Wars. You don't need a brand new $3000 gaming rig to play it, even though that'd be pretty awesome.
Unless it's very ancient, it should work. Most decent computers can run Guild Wars. You don't need a brand new $3000 gaming rig to play it, even though that'd be pretty awesome.
jonathankimmm
Thanks for replies, if anyones got a trial key, feel free to send it my way haha.
But why isnt factions a good choice? I read about what each one was about and they said that factions is mainly pvp, and thats what interests me the most id say.
my laptop isnt ancient, its pretty low end though, its toshiba satellite for like 500 bucks, its just ive had problems with some games, like I bought counterstrike source but it doesnt run smoothly, waste of money =(
But why isnt factions a good choice? I read about what each one was about and they said that factions is mainly pvp, and thats what interests me the most id say.
my laptop isnt ancient, its pretty low end though, its toshiba satellite for like 500 bucks, its just ive had problems with some games, like I bought counterstrike source but it doesnt run smoothly, waste of money =(
jonathankimmm
Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0
And does anyboyd know what these do on the graphics cards? i ran the test and it said i was missing this?
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0
And does anyboyd know what these do on the graphics cards? i ran the test and it said i was missing this?
gremlin
I guess best I can do is tell you my system specs which run it just fine.
AMD 1800 2 meg ram machine is now 5 years old and the graphics card is a venerable geforce4 ti4800 128 meg.
AMD 1800 2 meg ram machine is now 5 years old and the graphics card is a venerable geforce4 ti4800 128 meg.
Molock
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Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 And does anyboyd know what these do on the graphics cards? i ran the test and it said i was missing this? |
The Sender
Transform & Lighting is pretty important, without it the game will run slowly and textures on armor won't show up correctly. Lighting calculates appearances of objects according to light cast on it from different angles. Transform allows for complex/more objects to appear on your screen without reducing the frame rate.
-Loki-
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Hey guys, Ive really wanted to get into an MMORPG for a while now
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Ork Pride
Get Out While You Still Can
Bryant Again
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Then why do you want Guild Wars?
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Besides that, it is a completely solid and fun RPG. As to what campaign will really keep you comfortable, I'd say Prophecies. Best and most comfortable learning curve, in my opinion.
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Ouch, Factions. Thats not the best choice for a new guy. I'd suggest, like most of the people that may reply, that you get Nightfall because of the heroes.
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Also, Johnathan, asking a fan forum about the game is generally not so great. People on forums could be outraged by the most simple thing and they'll take that hate out on the game. They'll make you think it's the worst game in the world (see WoW forums). So generally, watch where you take your advice.
Yarly
Uninstall before its to late.
Muspellsheimr
I would strongly recommend starting off with Prophecies, or the Prophecies+Eye of the North pack. Nightfall is best for more experienced gamers, as heroes require a good deal of unlocks to be made effective (however, they do not play a major role in PvP anymore). Factions is simply bad, and for various reasons, probably the worst to start off with. Also, I would suggest playing some PvE first, to get the hang of the controls, and unlock some skills to start with.
And as stated, this game has several key features that are not consistent with those of MMO's, and while it is similar, you should not expect it to be one.
And as for those who say don't buy / uninstall now - they do have a point. While the game remains good, it has seen a steady decline ever sense the original Prophecies. With most of ArenaNet's resources going towards developing Guild Wars 2, it is unlikely this will improve at all, if it could have been improved without a complete overhaul to begin with.
As for a trial key, I cannot help you there, but as long as your computer was made in the last 4~6 years, it should run the game fine.
On a side note - if you do like the game, and intend to play PvP, you will need to purchase all 3 chapters for access to the skills & professions - EotN, although useful, is optional as it does not add much to the PvP gameplay.
And as stated, this game has several key features that are not consistent with those of MMO's, and while it is similar, you should not expect it to be one.
And as for those who say don't buy / uninstall now - they do have a point. While the game remains good, it has seen a steady decline ever sense the original Prophecies. With most of ArenaNet's resources going towards developing Guild Wars 2, it is unlikely this will improve at all, if it could have been improved without a complete overhaul to begin with.
As for a trial key, I cannot help you there, but as long as your computer was made in the last 4~6 years, it should run the game fine.
On a side note - if you do like the game, and intend to play PvP, you will need to purchase all 3 chapters for access to the skills & professions - EotN, although useful, is optional as it does not add much to the PvP gameplay.
Esan
Factions is fine. It gives you some of the most balanced skills in the game and gets you to the interesting part of the game (PvP) faster. The atmosphere of Cantha is probably the most striking, with some of the best architectural and texture work the game has to offer.
??Ripskin
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Factions is fine. It gives you some of the most balanced skills in the game and gets you to the interesting part of the game (PvP) faster. The atmosphere of Cantha is probably the most striking, with some of the best architectural and texture work the game has to offer.
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The one I know of is 400+ damage attacks from bosses, grey green houses, and a crapload of acid trees.
wilebill
Nightfall first, welcome to Guild Wars.
gremlin
Please explain clearly and without just rubbishing Guild wars why it fails to be a MMORPG
1 Massively
2 Multiplayer
3 Online
4 Role Playing Game
We don't need to bother about 2 and 3 as they are true, even though stand alone play is becoming more popular.
Is Gw Massive ?
Well Lets see Massive well it isnt small but that should be decided by comparing it to the rest of the Genre.
"How Does the size of GW compare to the other games such as WOW" ?
Is GW an RPG ?
Since the interaction with ai is quite limited compared to other RPGs I have played and there and is no actual game reason to role play with other players other than trading.
So this is probably GWs weakest area.
"are the other games more of a RPG experience and why" ?
1 Massively
2 Multiplayer
3 Online
4 Role Playing Game
We don't need to bother about 2 and 3 as they are true, even though stand alone play is becoming more popular.
Is Gw Massive ?
Well Lets see Massive well it isnt small but that should be decided by comparing it to the rest of the Genre.
"How Does the size of GW compare to the other games such as WOW" ?
Is GW an RPG ?
Since the interaction with ai is quite limited compared to other RPGs I have played and there and is no actual game reason to role play with other players other than trading.
So this is probably GWs weakest area.
"are the other games more of a RPG experience and why" ?
-Loki-
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Please explain clearly and without just rubbishing Guild wars why it fails to be a MMORPG
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Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game).
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Vinraith
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Is Gw Massive ?
Well Lets see Massive well it isnt small but that should be decided by comparing it to the rest of the Genre. "How Does the size of GW compare to the other games such as WOW" ? |
Incidentally if GW2 follows through on its "persistent world" notions it will be an MMORPG, unfortunately, and would thus be of a different genre than its parent game.
Shadowfox1125
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Nightfall first, welcome to Guild Wars.
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I Phoenix I
Wouldn't massively be an adjective to multiplayer? In this scenario, multiplayer is a noun (people playing together). So, massively would be describing how the multiplayer is, thus an adjective?
Shadowfox1125
No, there's only one noun in MMORPG. And it's Game. Massively is indeed an adverb modifying Multiplayer, although it is awkward to have multiplayer as as adjective. If massively was an adjective, it would be massive, not massively. (Massively Multiplayer) modifies Game as does Online and Role-playing.
jonathankimmm
Lol thanks for the input
But does anyone have a trial key so that i can test it on my laptop frist?
i dont wanna buy it if its not gunna run smoothly, thanks
But does anyone have a trial key so that i can test it on my laptop frist?
i dont wanna buy it if its not gunna run smoothly, thanks
natural sugar
Prophecies is easy to start with but takes much longer to get to level 20 than the others. I also would not recommend Factions because I think it has the sharpest learning curve, which discourages lots of players.
Kula
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Lol thanks for the input
But does anyone have a trial key so that i can test it on my laptop frist? i dont wanna buy it if its not gunna run smoothly, thanks |
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest
and select GUILD WARS. It should give you an approximate idea of whether it can run fine or not.
Now if you want a trial key so you can just play, that's another question. Wish I had one.
jonathankimmm
Well i did go there, and i testd out if WoW would work and i failed but i can still play it on my laptop, so its hard to tell you know?
Origin
Some disagree Guild Wars is MMORPG. They are wrong in my opinion:
Muspellsheimr
Dancing in outposts is not actually playing the game with others - so it stands that this is not an MMO
Origin
No? And what is it? Look in other MMOs. People either party up and go dungeon in 5 people. Or they go "in world" and hunt for loot. That's not playing imo either. I would say MMO stands for meeting people along the world with ability to team up with them and chat with them. Whether it is in towns or not doesn't matter. Some people rather talk with each other than grindling endlessly.
Oh and I sent jonathankimmm PM with informations about trial key, so I guess you can cose this thread to avoid flame if GW is MMO or not.
Oh and I sent jonathankimmm PM with informations about trial key, so I guess you can cose this thread to avoid flame if GW is MMO or not.
WinterSnowblind
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Dancing in outposts is not actually playing the game with others - so it stands that this is not an MMO
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True, it's not an MMO in the traditional sense, but frankly that's why a lot of us playing. And going by the term MMO, you realy can't argue that GW isn't one.
Redfeather1975
Even if people can't see a million other people in the same explorable zone, at least there is the option to meet and group up with anyone in the world without waiting on a server transfer. 
So while it might not be massive multiplayer when doing quests, it's still a neat-o setup.
So while it might not be massive multiplayer when doing quests, it's still a neat-o setup.
angmar_nite
Prophecies is the best by far. Start with that.
gremlin
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lol ok you got me clean through the head, not that I was using it at the time.
Thanks
Thanks to Vinraith and others
I should have checked out Massively, I defined the acronim correctly but phrased my question wrong.
So points 1 and 4 fail because of a lack of a persistant world where roleplaying can take place.
Thanks
on that point I am glad we dont have such a game-world it would mainly consist of in game muggings imho
Ulterion
I would find any other online game rather than GW because there's just no freedom of choice, movement, speech, etc. You can get banned for anything and title-grinds are just not worth playing based on Anet's life-long durations on maxing most. Can't max out some because it'll literally take YEARS to! Success is pretty standardized, also. Either you have a certain build per profession and team build, or you FAIL. And the GW community has too many Newbs, Emo's and Negative Players (trust me, I've been around since the beginning). Updates are getting stupider and skills are getting nerfed more and more to the point of making it too hard to do anything anymore. Farming isn't worth the grind anymore, even solo. There's just too many negatives about GW. I've grinded too hard and I'm having trouble letting go of the game... but I will eventually and soon enough.
moriz
if you want to experience mmorpgs, gw is a poor choice to start.
gw's gameplay is similar to a first person shooter combined with real time strategy. there's also very little "character progression" and "character development". instead, the game slowly develops YOU. your character will become better up to a certain point. after that, how you perform in the game depends on you entirely. you will NEVER have a character that can demolish everything by itself like you'll get in classical mmorpgs. GW is all about teamwork, strategy, and tactics.
you're right about GW being a strong pvp game. currently, even with the release of Fury, GW is STILL the premiere pvp game in the online rpg genre. there are currently nothing that comes close. however, arenanet (the company that created GW) somehow failed to advertise it as such, and GW, with its revolutionary pvp mechanics, has turned into another rpg slasher. how can a company, with probably the best pvp concept in a decade, fail this epically, is beyond me.
anyways, if you want to see if your computer can run the game or not, simply download the client from guildwars.com. GW runs on a livestreaming basis, so it will only download what you need to start playing. you won't be able to long in currently, but the framerates at the loading screen should give you a pretty good indication on how it will perform.
gw's gameplay is similar to a first person shooter combined with real time strategy. there's also very little "character progression" and "character development". instead, the game slowly develops YOU. your character will become better up to a certain point. after that, how you perform in the game depends on you entirely. you will NEVER have a character that can demolish everything by itself like you'll get in classical mmorpgs. GW is all about teamwork, strategy, and tactics.
you're right about GW being a strong pvp game. currently, even with the release of Fury, GW is STILL the premiere pvp game in the online rpg genre. there are currently nothing that comes close. however, arenanet (the company that created GW) somehow failed to advertise it as such, and GW, with its revolutionary pvp mechanics, has turned into another rpg slasher. how can a company, with probably the best pvp concept in a decade, fail this epically, is beyond me.
anyways, if you want to see if your computer can run the game or not, simply download the client from guildwars.com. GW runs on a livestreaming basis, so it will only download what you need to start playing. you won't be able to long in currently, but the framerates at the loading screen should give you a pretty good indication on how it will perform.
Rexion
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Some disagree Guild Wars is MMORPG. They are wrong in my opinion:
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If you are new, go for Prophocies.
If you are bored with proph, and want something new, go for Factions.
If youare bored of proph/fac and want something to spice up your playing style, and add in a new componant to your play (aka heroes), go for Nightfall.
Simple enough.
Bryant Again
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True, it's not an MMO in the traditional sense, but frankly that's why a lot of us playing. And going by the term MMO, you realy can't argue that GW isn't one.
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I don't like to call it an MMORPG because what do nearly all MMORPG's have? High level cap, a large emphasis on gear, and persistancy. Not only that, but they have much higher expectations due to a monthly fee.
Guild Wars doesn't have any of these things. Why is this bad? Because people come into Guild Wars *with* these expectations. I mean, it is an MMO afterall, right? Others think that it's awesome that they're going "against the norm", or "being different". But if it was so great, why is ANet throwing this all out the window with GW2, and adding things like high-level caps and perstancy?
You can consider GW an MMO if you want, go for it. But don't come crying or whining to here saying that their isn't enough endgame, or coming up with "awsum ideas" like mounts and higher levels. Guild Wars is just an RPG, and it guaruntees none of that.
Nemo the Capitalist
hav fun man gw will steal ur life away trust me 
fun but addictive
fun but addictive
Exhonour
i used to play factions on like an ati radeon 200 video card with like 256 video memory im pretty sure, and comp with 512mb ram, it was fine, even on medium 
now just upgraded to 1 gig and geforce 7600gs, its all good, im not the type of person that invests so much money in technology, its simply a waste, it always gets better
now just upgraded to 1 gig and geforce 7600gs, its all good, im not the type of person that invests so much money in technology, its simply a waste, it always gets better
Earth
Done. The question has been answered, and this is more and more turning into a discussing.