This is not a QQ thread at all, and I wish it to remain flame free. Genuinely, I am asking for the good people of this forum to partake in a discussion and perhaps give advice on my predicament.
GW has become exceedingly boring for me. I cannot put my finger on the reason why,( I am sure they are numerous, but this is something I'd like to be discussed) but I find myself logging in purely just to see who is on my friends list and then logging out.
I have tried the taking a break method, as I haven't played the game really in over 2 months. I log back in occasionally, just to find the game the same in every way after I log in just as it was in the past.
Is there something I am missing? How have others who have reached my predicament overcome this hurdle of stagnation of the game? No new pvp maps, no real skill balances, no new rewards, no substantial PvE content. But some still can find hours upon hours of enjoyment. What indeed can be done to overcome this stagnation of the game? Or do you guys recommend just to drop it all and wait for Gw2? Please, let the discussion commence
A confused gw player.
-Lac
P.S. (since the message seems to be somewhat ambiguous), please discuss if you feel GW is stagnant or not, and if so what can be done to make it diversified and exciting.
The Stagnation of Guild Wars: How can we/I avoid it?
lacasner
Zeek Aran
Goals. I have a goal to reach 30 maxed titles. Were it not for this goal, I might have joined PvP or left long ago.
sm5
It comes down to what you want to do. Nothing if forcing you to play Guild Wars and if you find it boring then pick up another game. Guild Wars was not made for everyone and as such not everyone will be interested (or be able to hold interest) in Guild Wars. No game is made to entertain indefinitely and expecting one to do so is a little bit silly.
So my suggestion is, if you can't enjoy Guild Wars go ahead and try something else.
So my suggestion is, if you can't enjoy Guild Wars go ahead and try something else.
6am3 Fana71c
Quit the game. Simple as that. I was there before, when I didn't knew that to do next, and thinking of quitting. But I always found something new to do, and joining good allinace helped A LOT. Oh, and quit farming. However if you are still bored, then play something else.
lacasner
Is that what all experienced players did? Purely quit? Surely there must be more alternatives than that, although they escape me completely.
Roshi_ikkyu
Its your problem, your own personal reason for why you think the game is stagnate.
If you don't like it Quit, if you still like something in the game do that.
Problem solved.
If you don't like it Quit, if you still like something in the game do that.
Problem solved.
Diddy bow
I guess youve just played it to death after X000 hours thats bound to happen.
cebalrai
You prefer to do other things than play GW. Nothing wrong with that.
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lacasner
Hmm... perhaps I made my motives for making this thread too ambiguous. An attempt to promote understanding of why the game has become stagnant and what can be done to avoid the brick-wall of boredom has escaped some posters here.
Fril Estelin
I'm always intrigued by these "I find GW boring now" as I personally can't share the same opinion! May be it's because I didn't go too quickly, I still have a lot of missions to do and goal to achieve.
May be you should take a break and come back at a later time?
May be you should take a break and come back at a later time?
bamm bamm bamm
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Is that what all experienced players did? Purely quit? Surely there must be more alternatives than that, although they escape me completely.
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Hmm... perhaps I made my motives for making this thread too ambiguous. An attempt to promote understanding of why the game has become stagnant and what can be done to avoid the brick-wall of boredom has escaped some posters here.
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Stormlord Alex
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Hmm... perhaps I made my motives for making this thread too ambiguous. An attempt to promote understanding of why the game has become stagnant and what can be done to avoid the brick-wall of boredom has escaped some posters here.
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Anyho, in truth...? There's nothing that can be done to stop that 'brick wall'. It's only a game, and there's only so much you can really do in it before you've seen it all. It's just a matter of how many times you can sit through it all and still find enjoyment - I can play stuff like Terranigma or Halo no end, whereas with Guild Wars... I have to take breaks or else it dies for me
cebalrai
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Hmm... perhaps I made my motives for making this thread too ambiguous. An attempt to promote understanding of why the game has become stagnant and what can be done to avoid the brick-wall of boredom has escaped some posters here.
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Solas
personally when i got bored of GW i gave WoW ago, played the trial and got addicted to it, bought 3 months of time. then after 2nd month i got the flare to play GW again, as it was likea new game(less farming level at high 30s, low 40s). that kept me going for maybe 5 months on GW a month back i got bored again and i am no on WoW again,tought my friends being on would help, a month on i hav e a flare for GW again, of coarse wheni paid for wow time i used to play both of them daily, so i got nice bits and pieces.
but comp has been broken for 2 weeks so i cant play any computer game at all as my 98 ocmputer only has 4mb graphics card...lol.
try a 2 week break form video games altogether or try another mmo,imo you'll never realy just quit GW but get more variety and get a hunger again.
but comp has been broken for 2 weeks so i cant play any computer game at all as my 98 ocmputer only has 4mb graphics card...lol.
try a 2 week break form video games altogether or try another mmo,imo you'll never realy just quit GW but get more variety and get a hunger again.
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What keeps me playing is similar to what Zeek Aran said. Goals, for me, in the form of titles / ladder.
I'm big into HB so am always working to get as high as i can on the ladder. When it's getting frustrating i'll switch to PvE and work on some titles. Always gives me something to do.
Personette
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My advice is to stop making sweeping, generalizing remarks like this. All you can say is that you don't find the game enjoyable and would rather do other things. You can't say "the game has become stagnant" as if it's some objective truth.
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To the poster: the people who are telling you to quit are giving you good advice, but a few alternatives have already been suggested. Changing your playstyle is another one - start a new character (and try not to ease their way through a campaign too much with gold you've got saved), or make an effort to play in areas or formats that you've avoided before. The point is to find whatever parts of the game you've neglected and give them a try.
savage vapor 33
Quit, definetly. I quit about 4 months ago, still log on to check back with friends and it brings a whole new existence to the game, i dont keep playing but its nice to see people message you right when you get on. OR Get a girlfriend/boyfriend.....Giggity.
Stormlord Alex
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OR Get a girlfriend/boyfriend.....Giggity.
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Not quite as expensive as WoW, and slightly more fun
Kook~NBK~
I don't get bored with GW for a couple of reasons.
IN-GAME:
1. I don't do the same thing over and over and over. I may Vanquish an area one day, help people through missions/quests another. I may just spend time in town drunk, congradulating people on getting maxed titles and B.Sing with guildes/friends on TS.
2. I vary the way I play - sometimes I'll go out soloing, sometimes I'll PUG, sometimes I H/H or run with friends.
3. I may tackle a dungeon or Tombs run or even go jump into an alliance battle or two to break up the monotony.
OUTSIDE OF GAME: I just take a break for a day or two. I'll spend an evening just kicking back watching movies or going out with friends. Weekends, I get outside and do stuff.
IN-GAME:
1. I don't do the same thing over and over and over. I may Vanquish an area one day, help people through missions/quests another. I may just spend time in town drunk, congradulating people on getting maxed titles and B.Sing with guildes/friends on TS.
2. I vary the way I play - sometimes I'll go out soloing, sometimes I'll PUG, sometimes I H/H or run with friends.
3. I may tackle a dungeon or Tombs run or even go jump into an alliance battle or two to break up the monotony.
OUTSIDE OF GAME: I just take a break for a day or two. I'll spend an evening just kicking back watching movies or going out with friends. Weekends, I get outside and do stuff.
savage vapor 33
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If Guild Wars has become exceedingly boring for you, why are you looking for alternatives within the same game? Goals aren't the answer. If the fundamental mechanics of this game bore you, no amount of goals are going to help you. You'll torture yourself until you reach your goal, at which point you will feel the depressing realization that you didn't actually care about the goal to begin with, and no-one else does either. The only way it will benefit you is by further convincing you to leave your guild and virtual 'progress' for another game.
If the game has become stagnant for you, that's a shame. Only you know the answer to why this is so. Nothing can be done to escape boredom, no game has infinite re-playability. |
Edited out in appropriate comment. This is a family forum, lets keep it that way.
Zinger314
I think you know my position on the matter, lacasner. 
Guild Wars is one of the easiest games to quit, because there's no penalty for doing so.
However, Guild Wars won't be changing for 2 years due to the development of GW2, so yes, it will get stagnant, and you might as well quit now and avoid the masochism.
The main problem I see is that GW lacks sustantive goals. A title is just a line of text under your character which few players see anyways. Who cares?
(And why did half of the thread disappear? It seemed on-topic...)
Guild Wars is one of the easiest games to quit, because there's no penalty for doing so.
However, Guild Wars won't be changing for 2 years due to the development of GW2, so yes, it will get stagnant, and you might as well quit now and avoid the masochism.
The main problem I see is that GW lacks sustantive goals. A title is just a line of text under your character which few players see anyways. Who cares?
(And why did half of the thread disappear? It seemed on-topic...)
sassoonssamson
this game has lots to offer
u just need to find what excie u the most
i was bored till i hit on the deep , played lots of times there
in GWEN for some reason i like Cathedrals dungeon ver much so fat i have done it over 25 times
also i like buying and selling at profit very much entertaining made 100k+73e so far now i will continue till i can afford the fOW armor
Just try to find what excites u
u just need to find what excie u the most
i was bored till i hit on the deep , played lots of times there
in GWEN for some reason i like Cathedrals dungeon ver much so fat i have done it over 25 times
also i like buying and selling at profit very much entertaining made 100k+73e so far now i will continue till i can afford the fOW armor
Just try to find what excites u
Kakumei
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Guild Wars is one of the easiest games to quit, because there's no penalty for doing so.
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Put the game down. Go do something else for a while. Come back later--or even come back for GW2.
Melei Hawke
You did not say if you have done everything in the game or if you just did the same things over and over until your eyes were glazed over. If you have not tried pvp, give it a go...real life players can be unpredictable (except for the stupid smack talk) and sometimes you can get great pleasure killing off that loud mouth...
Play the game through with a different type of character. Playing a Mesmer or a Necro is far different than playing wammo. You may find that a different type of challenge sparks your interest. Someone suggested starting a character from scratch and not accessing already stored gold and weapons. Play the game the hard way...
Hard Mode! If you haven't tried vanquishing or missions in hard mode then you are missing out on some challenging play time. Underworld, Tombs, The Deep, Dungeons...
If none of this appeals to you then maybe you do just need to walk away
Play the game through with a different type of character. Playing a Mesmer or a Necro is far different than playing wammo. You may find that a different type of challenge sparks your interest. Someone suggested starting a character from scratch and not accessing already stored gold and weapons. Play the game the hard way...
Hard Mode! If you haven't tried vanquishing or missions in hard mode then you are missing out on some challenging play time. Underworld, Tombs, The Deep, Dungeons...
If none of this appeals to you then maybe you do just need to walk away
Malice Black
Joining a new guild rejuvenated my interest. Got bored again after a month though. I log on occasionally, but I never really do much.
creelie
Try a few new things. Strive for one thing you really want. If you're still bored, stop playing and do something else. You'll be happier and probably healthier.
Bryant Again
Why do you feel like you need to keep playing?
Antheus
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Hmm... perhaps I made my motives for making this thread too ambiguous. An attempt to promote understanding of why the game has become stagnant and what can be done to avoid the brick-wall of boredom has escaped some posters here.
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You get bored with the game, and declare it stagnant?
If you have no interest in the game - don't play.
We're not psychologists to probe into the motives behind your boredom, nor do I believe anyone here gives a rat's behind over why you are bored or would care to change it.
The game hasn't changed and at the same time, it's constantly changing. Beyond that, nobody here can offer anything of any kind of use to you.
I've stopped playing several times for a month or three. No need to make drama about it - it's a game, not a job or obligation.
lacasner
Well, quite frankly previously I did play it a lot (i have like 1,500 hours total in like 20 months) so its not like I didn't get my bang for my buck. However, with new chapters and PvP balances and updates being more frequent in the past(this is not a hunch, but I am fairly certain it is a fact), I had a wider variety of things to do.
There is no obligation to play this game, but since I did enjoy it quite a lot, I (and i'm sure others who are contemplating quiting as well) would at least like to know what caused this, or what can prevent it.
Perhaps it would make more sense to focus on the actual concept of whether or not GW truly is stagnant..and why. Lack of updates plus no real beneficial content is what makes my opinion of it decline.
But I'd like to know other people's opinions as well, so please explain your assertions
There is no obligation to play this game, but since I did enjoy it quite a lot, I (and i'm sure others who are contemplating quiting as well) would at least like to know what caused this, or what can prevent it.
Perhaps it would make more sense to focus on the actual concept of whether or not GW truly is stagnant..and why. Lack of updates plus no real beneficial content is what makes my opinion of it decline.
But I'd like to know other people's opinions as well, so please explain your assertions
Shakkara
Only in game to grind some titles for GW2, I'm affraid...
Bryant Again
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There is no obligation to play this game, but since I did enjoy it quite a lot, I (and i'm sure others who are contemplating quiting as well) would at least like to know what caused this, or what can prevent it.
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Lack of updates plus no real beneficial content is what makes my opinion of it decline.
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And how is it ANet's obligation to keep adding updates to the game? Where does it say that they have to continually add content? Nowhere. You bought the game, you had your fun with it. Now go play some TF2 or Portal or something.
(and what's benefical content, anyways??)
Cale Roughstar
About a month before EoTN came out, I was on the verge of quitting. I was absolutely bored to tears with everything the game had to offer. I was shifting more and more over to counter-strike and averaged about 20 minutes a week on GW. However, all it takes is one catalyst to get someone back into a game. For me it was a book (Atlas Shrugged), and it reminded me of how much fun I have trying to make money in games. I started buying and selling, and then soon I was back into the game completely.
For you I would suggest trying something completely different. Try to max storage gold (farming is probably a bad idea because it is so stagnant) or get a cool title that isnt a total grind (like skill hunter). Once you get back into one area, it is so easy to become re-immersed in the game that you once loved so much.
I also find that it is a good thing to have another game to play. For me it is Counter Strike. If I am ever bored of GW or just want to shake things up, ill log on to CS and frag some scrubs It helps keep things fresh for both games.
Best of Luck
Cale
For you I would suggest trying something completely different. Try to max storage gold (farming is probably a bad idea because it is so stagnant) or get a cool title that isnt a total grind (like skill hunter). Once you get back into one area, it is so easy to become re-immersed in the game that you once loved so much.
I also find that it is a good thing to have another game to play. For me it is Counter Strike. If I am ever bored of GW or just want to shake things up, ill log on to CS and frag some scrubs
It helps keep things fresh for both games. Best of Luck
Cale
DreamRunner
Whoa, its amazing that a lot of people take this thread and generalize it so much. The OP is trying to find more motivation towards and GW and wants to play it more because I think he wants to enjoy it how he used to enjoy GW back in the day.
But in the end you got people like cebalrai that loves to troll and change the direction of what the OP is wanting to ask on people's opinion. If you don't know, the OP is asking what are people's motivation towards GW, so he can I imagine to start playing again, but I guess the village idiot and the pack of bogan's will ultimately transform the message to an lower understanding.
But in the end you got people like cebalrai that loves to troll and change the direction of what the OP is wanting to ask on people's opinion. If you don't know, the OP is asking what are people's motivation towards GW, so he can I imagine to start playing again, but I guess the village idiot and the pack of bogan's will ultimately transform the message to an lower understanding.
Skuld
Take a step back and look at the situation. Why are you trying to force yourself to play something you don't enjoy? Log off, and take a break. Find something else which you might enjoy.
Don't worry it doesn't have to be permanent, you'll love the game once again, go see what a 2 month break will do for you
Don't worry it doesn't have to be permanent, you'll love the game once again, go see what a 2 month break will do for you
Shadowmere
like some other's here I still find the game interesting and fun, I make myself some goals, but instead of focusing on titles or ranking I focus on my characters, trying new ones, new professions, new builds. making my character just how I want them, perfect armor weapons, etc. not to mention all the high end content I haven't looked at yet, DoA, Tombs, etc.
All that's not to mention all the PvP I haven't even considered yet.
but if you've tried different things (and the many things the kind people here have suggested) and nothing seems to spur your interest anymore then maybe you need a break from it, like any game it only has so much content, and despite GW's insane amount of it, if it's not entertaining you anymore then why play it now?
Your friends still playing will understand if you take a break or leave the game completely, GW isn't a comitment. In fact it's the pinnacle of relaxed mmo's, if you decide the game isn't for you anymore or just for a while there's no penalty, no wasted subscription money. And what's better if you decide you want to come back in a week, a month or even a year down the road it'll still be here for you.
Just don't say the game is stagnating, it's not, new expansions (or campaigns) every 1/2 a year or so plus lots of holiday and festival events (don't pretend like those aren't fun times with the community), there's always new content.
All that's not to mention all the PvP I haven't even considered yet.
but if you've tried different things (and the many things the kind people here have suggested) and nothing seems to spur your interest anymore then maybe you need a break from it, like any game it only has so much content, and despite GW's insane amount of it, if it's not entertaining you anymore then why play it now?
Your friends still playing will understand if you take a break or leave the game completely, GW isn't a comitment. In fact it's the pinnacle of relaxed mmo's, if you decide the game isn't for you anymore or just for a while there's no penalty, no wasted subscription money. And what's better if you decide you want to come back in a week, a month or even a year down the road it'll still be here for you.
Just don't say the game is stagnating, it's not, new expansions (or campaigns) every 1/2 a year or so plus lots of holiday and festival events (don't pretend like those aren't fun times with the community), there's always new content.
Halmyr
Personaly how I keep the game fresh and fun is I always change what I'm doing, one day I've dungeon crawling, the other I'm mapping, the next I'm chatting with guildes and the next I'm trying to get my guildies to do so HA.
Always changing, never concentrating on on thing for two long, but then I always come back to complet my goals, so I'm slowly getting multiple goals at the same time.
Always changing, never concentrating on on thing for two long, but then I always come back to complet my goals, so I'm slowly getting multiple goals at the same time.
MagmaRed
How many characters have you made for PvE?
How many characters do you use for PvP?
I admit I skipped a lot of the posts, but I didn't see you say what it is you have done in the game, what you enjoyed, and what you didn't enjoy. It sounds like you have done the same things repeatedly, and that got boring. If you enjoyed PvE, but never made certain classes, then make a new character. If you enjoyed PvP, and are just tired of the same maps, try more GvG and scrimmages. Scrimmages with people willing to try new things can become quite creative and different.
Seriously, I doubt you have done everything there is to do in the game, as the time you listed for having played is far less then mine, and I have lots of things I have not done yet. Maybe its just a matter of finding those new things and trying them.
How many characters do you use for PvP?
I admit I skipped a lot of the posts, but I didn't see you say what it is you have done in the game, what you enjoyed, and what you didn't enjoy. It sounds like you have done the same things repeatedly, and that got boring. If you enjoyed PvE, but never made certain classes, then make a new character. If you enjoyed PvP, and are just tired of the same maps, try more GvG and scrimmages. Scrimmages with people willing to try new things can become quite creative and different.
Seriously, I doubt you have done everything there is to do in the game, as the time you listed for having played is far less then mine, and I have lots of things I have not done yet. Maybe its just a matter of finding those new things and trying them.
Darkobra
You know what you need to do? Find a LOAD of games you enjoy. Play them all. Start to finish. Then try a little GW each day/week as a break. I mean GW is so incredibly easy compared to the games I play that require thought that it's actually quite a good break. Even the Kilroy Stonekin's punchout tournament is a good 5-10 minute break.
Lord Feathers
Well one can always work on perfecting their HOM and see what un-locks when GW2 comes out
I started a project in my own guild where we play the game much like we did when playing HardCore Diablo II if anyone has ever played that. We have set aside some times and events we run through and the goal is to reach 3rd tier survivor without dying. We are not allowed to gift characters with items from higher level toons and must only use what we find while playing. It's been pretty fun and a nice challenge. Anyone can reach 3rd tier by using exp scrolls and farming Hard Mode and some easy areas but doesn't that cheapen the title ? We're doing this while playing through the game while semi-role playing and if the character dies it is deleted
I've been playing for a long time and I'm far from bored. In fact the people I usually see complain about being bored the most are the Farming crowd and people who simply rush through the game never questing and only hit the primary objectives. Yeah I guess doing that I would become bored myself. In the end it's the people we game with that make and keep the game fun.
I started a project in my own guild where we play the game much like we did when playing HardCore Diablo II if anyone has ever played that. We have set aside some times and events we run through and the goal is to reach 3rd tier survivor without dying. We are not allowed to gift characters with items from higher level toons and must only use what we find while playing. It's been pretty fun and a nice challenge. Anyone can reach 3rd tier by using exp scrolls and farming Hard Mode and some easy areas but doesn't that cheapen the title ? We're doing this while playing through the game while semi-role playing and if the character dies it is deleted
I've been playing for a long time and I'm far from bored. In fact the people I usually see complain about being bored the most are the Farming crowd and people who simply rush through the game never questing and only hit the primary objectives. Yeah I guess doing that I would become bored myself. In the end it's the people we game with that make and keep the game fun.
Burst Cancel
Girlfriends are more expensive then WoW ... and let's not even go into wives and children here.
If you play non-competitive games to death they get boring quickly. Furthermore, if you consider non-MMO games, you'll notice that you just beat them and then move on to something else. I don't think anyone has thousands of hours logged on their Final Fantasy __ save files; rather, you beat the game, maybe play it over once or twice, unlock secrets, and then you play something else. GW is essentially the same way, except that, after beating the game, you can go back and do other stuff if you so choose. There's an end of the road somewhere though, and once you reach it you do the same as you would with any other game - put it down and play something else.
Competitive games are a totally different story - provided you have quality competition available to you, those should almost never get boring. Rather, people tend to give up those games only when something better comes along.
If you play non-competitive games to death they get boring quickly. Furthermore, if you consider non-MMO games, you'll notice that you just beat them and then move on to something else. I don't think anyone has thousands of hours logged on their Final Fantasy __ save files; rather, you beat the game, maybe play it over once or twice, unlock secrets, and then you play something else. GW is essentially the same way, except that, after beating the game, you can go back and do other stuff if you so choose. There's an end of the road somewhere though, and once you reach it you do the same as you would with any other game - put it down and play something else.
Competitive games are a totally different story - provided you have quality competition available to you, those should almost never get boring. Rather, people tend to give up those games only when something better comes along.