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DEATHMASTER

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

HTH

E/Mo

27 Nov 2007 at 01:30 - 81

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You guys are all a bunch of babies for complaining about chest drops. Just play the darn game. If they were all golds, the market would be flooded & nothing would be worth anything.

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Ambuu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

27 Nov 2007 at 01:36 - 82

I think that chests should be buffed a bit more. at least lower the percentage of purple spawns.

I've broken of 50 lock picks on worthless purples. purples that's be 50g max to merchants. (from hard mode chests)
doesn't seem fair

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

27 Nov 2007 at 01:50 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Nothing to me is more irritating than farming in Hard Mode, finding a locked chest, and not only breaking the lockpick, but the chest spawning a PURPLE. Who wants purples in hard mode? They should be golds, tomes, gems, etc. Not purples. It's one thing if they drop from monsters, but they shouldn't drop from chests. Who agrees with me?

More than agreed

/signed

DarklingKiller

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Quit

W/

27 Nov 2007 at 01:53 - 84

/not signed

Just because you get a bunch of purples from chests doesn't mean the drop rate is broken. I've had plenty of Chest Runs where purples drop on every chest and some where only 1 or 2 drop. It's basically all about luck. I've sometimes make money after I lose all my picks and sometimes I lose money. It's just a game after all. If you don't want purples from chests, then you should just stop opening them.

circuscalamity

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Zeal Special Forces

R/

27 Nov 2007 at 03:23 - 85

>AGREED<

Hardmode chests are crap. Lockpicks are 1.5k. There is a thin line between "A gamble" and down right stealing.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

27 Nov 2007 at 04:14 - 86

Honestly I thought the whole chest randomization was pretty stupid to begin with. At least when they were all either gold or purple it encouraged team play. I remember many a UW run where we all took turns testing chests and if someone got a purple chest then someone else would chip in a spare key to offset their sacrifice for the team. Oddly enough back then there was no economic crash because of all gold or all purple chests. While I hold no hope for them ever reverting that boneheaded idea at least skewing the drop to favor golds in HM would be a step in the right direction.

/signed

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

27 Nov 2007 at 04:14 - 87

Yeah. There's only 2 gambles in this game: Salvaging and Lock-picks.

Most other games give you a bunch of pretty high stakes gambles. Take a little risk with your life (or be like me and save keys for HM, where it hurts more to "break on a grape"). Lock-pick serves an unsung purpose. Without lock-picks, you'll have to carry around a whole bunch of differnet keys = less storage.

Anet obviously did not have an economist in their ranks when they started off. Greenspan still had a job then.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

27 Nov 2007 at 15:23 - 88

Weapon prices is what should be fixed:

(all prices for a perfect req 9 item with no upgrades)
- White: Not identified max 1. Identified min: 75
- Blue: Not identified max 5. Identified min: 125
- Purple: Not identified max 10: Identified min: 200
- Gold: Not identified max 25: Identified min: 300

Then add the extra values for upgraes and the price changes for more/less quality and done. Bots don't get much gold from not identified items, and we get a bit more cash from identified ones.

Sir Pandra Pierva

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Sardelec yelling at Tenshi

Angels Of Strife

E/

27 Nov 2007 at 19:16 - 89

/not signed for making all chest drops gold. Even in HM just suck it up
/signed for making lockpicks HM only.
/signed for fixing it so that mods make sense to what drops.
That was a slightly off topic thing but I am getting sick of drops from chests not making much sense.
Like a shield of healing?

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

27 Nov 2007 at 19:32 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Weapon prices is what should be fixed:

(all prices for a perfect req 9 item with no upgrades)
- White: Not identified max 1. Identified min: 75
- Blue: Not identified max 5. Identified min: 125
- Purple: Not identified max 10: Identified min: 200
- Gold: Not identified max 25: Identified min: 300

Then add the extra values for upgraes and the price changes for more/less quality and done. Bots don't get much gold from not identified items, and we get a bit more cash from identified ones.

why would you identify a white item?

tyche7

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Nebraska

The Killer Panda Bears

W/Mo

27 Nov 2007 at 21:14 - 91

I agree...especially in hard mode in GW:EN (an already "elite" or lvl 20 only area). In fact, most of my chests (about 95% in gwen) are purples with a req higher than 11 (unusable). Oh boy!!

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

27 Nov 2007 at 23:31 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by aapo

/not signed

Purple is my favorite color.

/signed.

Green and gold are my favorite colours .......I'm Australian after all!

/Angelica

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

28 Nov 2007 at 03:35 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelica

Green and gold are my favorite colours
.......I'm Australian after all!

/Angelica

Aussie Aussie Aussie!

oi oi oi.

Nothin better than an Aussie mate.

/signed. Wtf is wrong with NCsoft and Anet lately.

Everytime i go out HM'in nothin but the graapes.
Start repairing what you broke. As for golds I dont care what I get as long there's some kind of Up'g i can use.
nuff sed.

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Nov 2007 at 05:46 - 94

/NOT signed

95%++ of the golds are already straight merchant food and that's mostly because of Hard Mode's ridiculous golds drop chances, including chests. You crybabies only want more and more of easier and easier best drops and you can't realise that it really hurts the game by making the best stuff near worthless. There's already a massive overabundance of golds and you want even more... Ehh good old Prophecies times when gold drops were actually rewarding and in demand...

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

28 Nov 2007 at 06:06 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronos the Defiler

why would you identify a white item?

it significantly raises the prices of some items from 45-50g to sometimes 100g+ but mostly to th 70-80g range.

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

/NOT signed

95%++ of the golds are already straight merchant food and that's mostly because of Hard Mode's ridiculous golds drop chances, including chests. You crybabies only want more and more of easier and easier best drops and you can't realise that it really hurts the game by making the best stuff near worthless. There's already a massive overabundance of golds and you want even more... Ehh good old Prophecies times when gold drops were actually rewarding and in demand...

That does't make much sense. If most golds are merchant junk anyways, all increasing gold chances and decreasing purple chances would do is +1 to wisdom. So right now "95%++" are merchant junk, it would go up to 98%++ is merchant junk. and how is making "the best stuff" have a higher chance of dropping bad? because people who farm them won't make a million a week now?

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

02 Dec 2007 at 16:38 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kong

The chests are fine.

You don't want to break lockpicks? Increase your titles.
You don't want to get purples? Stop opening chest.

I have 58% chance of retention in normal mode, where I am forced to use lockpicks (Eye of the North) and I break 30 out of 40 on the first try. Not just random occurance. This has been happening since I bought the expansion. That doesn't jive with my near 60% of retention, but apparently it isn't a problem according to you people.

legobildermike

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Real Boys Wear Pink

W/

02 Dec 2007 at 23:27 - 97

i do agree.. but what you're asking anet to do is impossible. It reverses loot scaling

Loot Unscaled: S Elemental Sword F (perfect) 100k+xxx ectos/etc
Or

Loot Scaled: Same item 100k+Xx ectos/etc

what would u rather pay?

however 50% retain rate actually needs 2 seem like 50%

neoezekiel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

EVERYWHERE! IGN The Neoezekiel

The Fallen Souls [SouL]

N/

29 Apr 2008 at 18:41 - 98

/signed

I opened 100 chests this weekend to get a gauge of the drop rates,
91 purples
5 golds
4 Normal tomes
I wanted to cry, b/c I only retained 10 lockpicks out of 100 tries with lucky 2 treasure hunter 3 and wisdom 4

shogun avatar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Croatia

Precko Boys [PREX]

W/

29 Apr 2008 at 19:00 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by legobildermike

Loot Unscaled: S Elemental Sword F (perfect) 100k+xxx ectos/etc
Or
Loot Scaled: Same item 100k+Xx ectos/etc

what would u rather pay?

however 50% retain rate actually needs 2 seem like 50%

I'd rather have items that cost 100k+xxx ectos, to actually look forward to and gold item (wich is rare as it is).

I do agree with retantion rate though

/signed

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

29 Apr 2008 at 19:00 - 100

/signed only if people will shut up about Hard Mode this and Hard Mode that.

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

29 Apr 2008 at 19:13 - 101

/signed

I almost never get a gold from locked chests, out of my last 20, 2 where golds!!

it isnt about luck, the ration is skewed, i never even use to have this much bad luck from NM chests.

A Urrang

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Norway

The imperial guards [tigg]

Rt/A

29 Apr 2008 at 19:25 - 102

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoezekiel

/signed

I opened 100 chests this weekend to get a gauge of the drop rates,
91 purples
5 golds
4 Normal tomes
I wanted to cry, b/c I only retained 10 lockpicks out of 100 tries with lucky 2 treasure hunter 3 and wisdom 4

How did you manage to get normal tomes from a locked chest?
And 5 golds from 100 HM chest?

Anyway, /notsigned droprates are ok imo, might not hurt to raise them a little bit though..

You can't see me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

P/W

29 Apr 2008 at 19:30 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoezekiel

/signed

I opened 100 chests this weekend to get a gauge of the drop rates,
91 purples
5 golds
4 Normal tomes
I wanted to cry, b/c I only retained 10 lockpicks out of 100 tries with lucky 2 treasure hunter 3 and wisdom 4

In the words of the chinese... "You no Res Bad Thread!"

And, yes, you can get normal tomes from chests. The drop rates, IMO are fine. You may as well complain you killed a boss several hundred times and never got a green. Does anyone else see the irony in complaining about the chances of random things?

Matt_Night

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Poland

[SOLL]

E/

30 Apr 2008 at 10:21 - 104

I bet aNet does fix it in some 6-8 months when almsot everywone is done vanquishing / mapping.
Me, i cant be bothered about chest drops any more i but i recall how frustrating they were when i was walking GW earth, so...

/signed

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

30 Apr 2008 at 12:19 - 105

wow tender wolf you came up with a good idea

(jk) I will have to

/signed on this one. But only for HM. If you have to spend that much on a pick and considering most Gold items only sell for 300 or so. its still not a big win. Make it a purple thats worth maybe 100 and you lose alot. I personally could give a damn about the luck aspect, its the investment aspect. Who would buy into a company if they only lost capital?

~the rat~

SirSausage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Poland

Architects of Forgotten Truths [AoFT]

W/Mo

30 Apr 2008 at 13:18 - 106

/signed

The gold ratio is seriously messed up. Fix those chests or at least lower the price of lockpicks.