I know some of you will just go "ah your a noob if you cant do it", but Polymock isnt fun. Its just frustrating and you only ever win if your lucky. Ive done everything else there is to do, so I figured id try this out. It took me the better part of 30 minutes, repeating Plugg just to beat him.
I only won the 100th time because I kept my first piece alive and had 2 to use up on his 3rd piece.
Now im on the second one and again its just not fun! I read all the magazine reviews saying how Polymock was like Pokomon and one of the best bits of GWEN... etc etc etc! Sorry but noo!
Its the most annoying aspect!
Ive also read all the things about "avoid projectiles", but there is virtualy no room to move. The perspective doesnt allow for you to easily see your character to move around and your having to watch alot of stuff on screan at one time. Its not like normal pvp or 1v1 where you have room to move.
I have no doubt that if I stick at it, I will eventually do it, but not after hours of screaming at the monitor!
I also know im choosing to do this and I dont have to, but Im wanting the summoning spells and its the only way I can get them. Im not saying they should remove the mini game, but maybe something needs tweaked to make it less frustrating (i.e hard) and more fun!
You basically know your stuffed the minute they other side gets 1 point before you! Yes I could buy a more powerfull piece for an edge, but NO one is selling them and no doubt theyd expensive.
Can we not just get the spells via a quest and not a 1v1 style format that not everyone enjoys?
Polymock is not fun!
freekedoutfish
wilebill
I'm going to play Polymock "one of these days" "when I get a'round 'tuit" and have run out of other stuff to play. I don't know whether it is fun or not because it is just not the sort of thing that appeals to me. Nor to a lot of other people I don't think.
You can't see me
I really don't see how you're having this much trouble. I beat all the bosses on the first or second try when I was new to it, and did not use any special pieces. Just use your skills to your advantage.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
I really don't see how you're having this much trouble. I beat all the bosses on the first or second try when I was new to it, and did not use any special pieces. Just use your skills to your advantage.
Neither do I. I wouldnt have thought it would be so hard. I always seem to ether get wiped or be within one bar of killing the other boss and then he kills me.
I dont like it, because it seems so weighted in favour of the boss!
But if your a pve person and your not used to 1v1 or close combat fighting, its not very fun. I just dont like how we have select "pve only" skills which are unlockable by ONLY doing a 1v1 (pvp-ish) activity.
It seems to go against the point of them bein pve only skills!
The same goes for norn tournaments!
I dont like it, because it seems so weighted in favour of the boss!
But if your a pve person and your not used to 1v1 or close combat fighting, its not very fun. I just dont like how we have select "pve only" skills which are unlockable by ONLY doing a 1v1 (pvp-ish) activity.
It seems to go against the point of them bein pve only skills!
The same goes for norn tournaments!
Vinraith
What's not fun for some is fun for others.
Antheus
Polymock sucks. Skills tied to Polymock, what's the current phrase already? Epic Fail.
It's just a lame attempt at something that doesn't fit into GW model. It would be ok for a festival mini game, but as such, it's not really worth mentioning. The only shame is that it's a major part of GW:EN, not because it would be so big, but because the rest is so small.
It's just a lame attempt at something that doesn't fit into GW model. It would be ok for a festival mini game, but as such, it's not really worth mentioning. The only shame is that it's a major part of GW:EN, not because it would be so big, but because the rest is so small.
Lotrfish
I think it's too easy. Once you get the hang of it, it is extremely easy. Master Hoff is no challenge, which makes it not fun. I agree with you on Polymock not being fun, but apparently for different reasons. We need Player versus player Polymock!
Darkobra
It's very easy. Your priority is to block their most powerful spell. The interrupt actually has a second delay, so block it. There are no glyphs that stop it being blocked. When you're low on health, use your power boost glyph. It makes all the difference.
And I can tell you that there is nothing worth getting in Polymock. The quest rewards are nothing more than vanity and the tournament rewards are scarcely even 100 Asuran points.
And I can tell you that there is nothing worth getting in Polymock. The quest rewards are nothing more than vanity and the tournament rewards are scarcely even 100 Asuran points.
VitisVinifera
For me it's very easy. AND no fun. It's just something I feel obliged to do to get the Asura rep, and to erase the ! over their heads.
Honestly, the whole Polymock thing to me seems half-baked. It really seems like we are only seeing one side to something that originally was ambitions and more flesh-ed out (it really seems like it's a PvP lite without the PvP). I can't imagine that the time and resources spent building this thing is worth it in the player's eyes. I seriously think the amount of time and manpower put into this could have entirely finished an AH.
I'd love to put up a "what would you rather have, Polymock or Auction House" poll.
Honestly, the whole Polymock thing to me seems half-baked. It really seems like we are only seeing one side to something that originally was ambitions and more flesh-ed out (it really seems like it's a PvP lite without the PvP). I can't imagine that the time and resources spent building this thing is worth it in the player's eyes. I seriously think the amount of time and manpower put into this could have entirely finished an AH.
I'd love to put up a "what would you rather have, Polymock or Auction House" poll.
Sleeper Service
polymock is rubbish.
thats all i have to say on that.
thats all i have to say on that.
Omniclasm
The whole interrupt thing kills it. 500 ping and HAVE to interrupt something? No thanks.
Not to mention that the AI can interrupt a 1/4 cast spell with a 1/2 cast.
Not to mention that the AI can interrupt a 1/4 cast spell with a 1/2 cast.
Solas
yeah, i never really got into polymock,s oi did the sensible thing /ragequit
gonna wait till i get a better pieces then i'll show the 2nd guy
gonna wait till i get a better pieces then i'll show the 2nd guy
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Vinraith
What's not fun for some is fun for others.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's not fun. The only time you get even remotely decent rewards is the first victory against each opponent where you get the skills. After that, the reward isn't worth it. So either increase the reward, or increase the fun factor - otherwise it will remain a dead aspect of GW and pretty much something to avoid.
So yeah, it's not fun. The only time you get even remotely decent rewards is the first victory against each opponent where you get the skills. After that, the reward isn't worth it. So either increase the reward, or increase the fun factor - otherwise it will remain a dead aspect of GW and pretty much something to avoid.
Chthon
Yep, polymock sucks.
If you've got a fast enough connection to consistently interrupt 1 sec casts, it's insanely easy. If you've got a slower connection, it's hours of frustration. There's very little skill or strategy involved, just twitch and connection speed.
If you've got a fast enough connection to consistently interrupt 1 sec casts, it's insanely easy. If you've got a slower connection, it's hours of frustration. There's very little skill or strategy involved, just twitch and connection speed.
w00t!
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Originally Posted by Lotrfish
I think it's too easy. Once you get the hang of it, it is extremely easy. Master Hoff is no challenge, which makes it not fun. I agree with you on Polymock not being fun, but apparently for different reasons. We need Player versus player Polymock!
Yeah, I agree. I was having lots of trouble with Polymock until a guildie said...
**Spoiler
1) First, cast your most powerful 1 second spell. It won't be blocked as the AI will be casting glyph of concentration.
2) Then cast block to block their most powerful spell
3) Cast your 1 second spell until it is both blocked and interrupted
4) Cast your 2 second spell
Lather, rinse, repeat.
After being told this I beat polymock with 2 characters in about 30 minutes.
So, too hard to get started. Once you figure it out, too easy. A sign of a poorly designed mini-game. But at least it's just a mini-game, and not a deal breaker for GW:EN
**Spoiler
1) First, cast your most powerful 1 second spell. It won't be blocked as the AI will be casting glyph of concentration.
2) Then cast block to block their most powerful spell
3) Cast your 1 second spell until it is both blocked and interrupted
4) Cast your 2 second spell
Lather, rinse, repeat.
After being told this I beat polymock with 2 characters in about 30 minutes.
So, too hard to get started. Once you figure it out, too easy. A sign of a poorly designed mini-game. But at least it's just a mini-game, and not a deal breaker for GW:EN
Government Flu
I tried polymock out a few days ago. It's kind of cute, but you have to be a Pokemon master to truly appreciate it. Not for me. :P Although it's not impossible to beat the NPCs...you just need to study the skills and dodge attacks using your arrow keys or mouse.
Lykan
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Originally Posted by Omniclasm
The whole interrupt thing kills it. 500 ping and HAVE to interrupt something? No thanks.
Not to mention that the AI can interrupt a 1/4 cast spell with a 1/2 cast. I personally like how they can interupt a 3/4 second cast, 1/10 into the animation with a 1/4 second cast interupt.
I can understand with bow interupts attacks but not p drain...
Not to mention that the AI can interrupt a 1/4 cast spell with a 1/2 cast. I personally like how they can interupt a 3/4 second cast, 1/10 into the animation with a 1/4 second cast interupt.
I can understand with bow interupts attacks but not p drain...
Marty Silverblade
So, it seems like there's a whole bunch of people who think Polymock is as bad I think it is. I was excited when I heard about it in the trailer/videos/Anet telling us stuff. However, I think what they actually did with the idea was really bad. I would have preferred to be out in one large battlefield, where we have more control over our projectiles, where we can hold the right mouse button to hold our shield up, halving damage taken, but increasing our casting time by 50%. Something like that.
ShadowbaneX
anything that claims to be like Pokemon, but good deserves whatever nasty fate it gets. Pokemon is just advertising gone horribly, horribly wrong and is the bane of parents everywhere.
Lotrfish
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Originally Posted by ShadowbaneX
anything that claims to be like Pokemon, but good deserves whatever nasty fate it gets. Pokemon is just advertising gone horribly, horribly wrong and is the bane of parents everywhere.
Uhh, no. The Pokemon games are great games. They are also the second best selling franchise ever, I wouldn't consider that to be gone horribly, horribly wrong. However, the stupid TV show, card game, etc. are stupid and the bane of parents.
Kaida the Heartless
I don't see how this is easy. Fighting against an enemy with 100% interupts while on a 200 ms ping is garbage. UnRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO this game so I can get my skills.
Edit: The word block is cute.
I think the most fantastic part about this game is running out of energy. Not like we are worrying about skills recharging or interupting the blatantly overpowered skills that were facing either.
This game fails. Way to put human players against characters with a massively unfair advantage.
Edit: The word block is cute.
I think the most fantastic part about this game is running out of energy. Not like we are worrying about skills recharging or interupting the blatantly overpowered skills that were facing either.
This game fails. Way to put human players against characters with a massively unfair advantage.
TheLichMonky
Depends if you get the hang of it... I don't enjoy it either xD
Popcorn Devil
It's a really easy game to play, and beat Master Hoff. I play with about 400ms and you can still interrupt the skills that are important. Just using block before your best skill helps, and using glyph of power when under 50% will work wonders.
Out of most things in EOTN, this actually requires skill and not large amounts of grinding.
But yeah, it does get boring lawl.
Out of most things in EOTN, this actually requires skill and not large amounts of grinding.
But yeah, it does get boring lawl.
Ace2001
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It's a game that requires you to actually, y'know, PAY ATTENTION to what your opponent is doing and know when to interupt/when to use the proper skills, not just go "1-2-3, 3-1-2, 2-2-4," etc. etc.
As for those of you complaining about high ping:
...Not really Anets fault that you can't afford a decent internet connection, now is it?
*raises anti-flame shield*
Cobalt
Search the forum there is a thread that shows a way to use a certain ranger skill that makes it somewhat easier, that is if it has not been nerft already.
Cobalt
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Originally Posted by Ace2001
As for those of you complaining about high ping:
...Not really Anets fault that you can't afford a decent internet connection, now is it?
*raises anti-flame shield* It is not like anyone is using a 56k modem connection to try and play this game. Even with highspeed cable I get ping spikes and high pings at times as most everyone does with this game. So yes it is absolutely Anets fault for not taking in to account lag issues when they designed Polymock or any of the other compete 1V1 against NPC's competitions in the game.
In fact the entire PVE element should be revamped with lag issue compromises..
...Not really Anets fault that you can't afford a decent internet connection, now is it?
*raises anti-flame shield* It is not like anyone is using a 56k modem connection to try and play this game. Even with highspeed cable I get ping spikes and high pings at times as most everyone does with this game. So yes it is absolutely Anets fault for not taking in to account lag issues when they designed Polymock or any of the other compete 1V1 against NPC's competitions in the game.
In fact the entire PVE element should be revamped with lag issue compromises..
Saraphim
Lacerate has been nerfed I think. It's in the update notes.
I suck at this as well. Not my ping or anything like that. I just suck.
I made it to Blarp, and wasn't doing too badly but honestly... apart from the fact that raising a Mursaat is funky I don't really give two hoops about the summoning skills anyway.
But... do all these annoying 1v1 side quests count towards the Mastery of the North track? If so, that does irritate me a little.
I suck at this as well. Not my ping or anything like that. I just suck.
I made it to Blarp, and wasn't doing too badly but honestly... apart from the fact that raising a Mursaat is funky I don't really give two hoops about the summoning skills anyway.
But... do all these annoying 1v1 side quests count towards the Mastery of the North track? If so, that does irritate me a little.
Xx_Sorin_xX
no seraphim they dont.
and polymock was and is boring. perhaps if they added an arena for people to play each other it might be a bit more..fun, but i doubt it. I would suggest the same for the norn arena as well, but I think i'd rage from all the Shadow prison asns and 55 monks.
and polymock was and is boring. perhaps if they added an arena for people to play each other it might be a bit more..fun, but i doubt it. I would suggest the same for the norn arena as well, but I think i'd rage from all the Shadow prison asns and 55 monks.
nightwatchman
I thought that polymock was tedious and boring. It was also real annoying till i got the hang of it.
I'll play it now to get the skills for my chars, but can't see myself ever playing it otherwise
I'll play it now to get the skills for my chars, but can't see myself ever playing it otherwise
draxynnic
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Originally Posted by Cobalt
Search the forum there is a thread that shows a way to use a certain ranger skill that makes it somewhat easier, that is if it has not been nerft already.
It has been now. (Basically, if you managed to beat their first piece and get their second to 90% health or less, you used to be able to use Lacerate to finish it off. If their third piece kills your second, you could then kill it in turn with Lacerate. Means you still need to get that advantage in the first place, but once you're there they can't stage a comeback either the old-fashioned way or by pulling out a (relatively) overpowered piece for the finale.)
My recommendation for the moment is to save the Mirage Iboga and the less powerful uncommon pieces once one character goes through to give the next a head start.
Personally, I think polymock, at least in the current you-against-the-computer version, should have an option to slow down the clock so it becomes a question of knowing what skill to use rather than being twitch- and latency-based.
My recommendation for the moment is to save the Mirage Iboga and the less powerful uncommon pieces once one character goes through to give the next a head start.
Personally, I think polymock, at least in the current you-against-the-computer version, should have an option to slow down the clock so it becomes a question of knowing what skill to use rather than being twitch- and latency-based.
Coverticus
I've just put my lack of ability to beat Polymock down to being too old and having no reactions (as well as a crap connection at times) 
But I agree with what some have said... 1v1 PvP-style to obtain PvE only skills is somewhat annoying. But challenging...
But I agree with what some have said... 1v1 PvP-style to obtain PvE only skills is somewhat annoying. But challenging...
Painbringer
Lacerate has been nerfed
By the way this is a very frustrating game I do not like it and I wish they would have the skills attached to quests rather then Polymock
By the way this is a very frustrating game I do not like it and I wish they would have the skills attached to quests rather then Polymock
Pick Me
Wow! Am I the only one who loves Polymock!
I loved it after I faced the 2nd guy. The first guy was lame and he berated me with put down comments, such as, 'I thought you'd be better than this. I mean I'm a novice.' And such comments like that.
As soon as I faced the guy with the elementals (Ice, Fire, Earth), I was hooked. I mean, what a challenge! I can dodge 1 dagger, so that is only 50% damage from his spells, while the enemy doesn't move at all.
Yes, you don't get all of their cool polymocks, but it is a good way to do something other than what you have done in the past (prior to Eyes To The North). You don't have to play it, but if you want its rewards, you have no choice. I mean, I want ectos and Obsidian Armor, and such, but I don't want to go into the Underworld or FoW to get it. Sadly, since that is the only way to get such things (and I don't want to pay other players for ectos), I have no choice but to go into these places.
If people have been too reliant on other players (good players) to do things, then I guess they cannot do the Norn tournaments either.
Perhaps, it is a way to get people to appreciate Mesmers (to have them play with a skill - to interupt the big bad hurtful spells), to learn how to avoid/evade/dodge range attacks, and to learn timing.
I can't beat the Asura Polymockers most of the time, but it feels so good to make them bow down their heads and cry that a human can win. I don't care if the AI really has no feelings whatsoever, I can still feel superior.
Much like anything, it takes practice to win, but if you are truly determined, you can win. Believe in yourself.
I loved it after I faced the 2nd guy. The first guy was lame and he berated me with put down comments, such as, 'I thought you'd be better than this. I mean I'm a novice.' And such comments like that.
As soon as I faced the guy with the elementals (Ice, Fire, Earth), I was hooked. I mean, what a challenge! I can dodge 1 dagger, so that is only 50% damage from his spells, while the enemy doesn't move at all.
Yes, you don't get all of their cool polymocks, but it is a good way to do something other than what you have done in the past (prior to Eyes To The North). You don't have to play it, but if you want its rewards, you have no choice. I mean, I want ectos and Obsidian Armor, and such, but I don't want to go into the Underworld or FoW to get it. Sadly, since that is the only way to get such things (and I don't want to pay other players for ectos), I have no choice but to go into these places.
If people have been too reliant on other players (good players) to do things, then I guess they cannot do the Norn tournaments either.
Perhaps, it is a way to get people to appreciate Mesmers (to have them play with a skill - to interupt the big bad hurtful spells), to learn how to avoid/evade/dodge range attacks, and to learn timing.
I can't beat the Asura Polymockers most of the time, but it feels so good to make them bow down their heads and cry that a human can win. I don't care if the AI really has no feelings whatsoever, I can still feel superior.
Much like anything, it takes practice to win, but if you are truly determined, you can win. Believe in yourself.
Kaida the Heartless
Sorry, not spending 5 hours practicing to beat one stupid polymocker. Unscrew the game and take thier advantages away so it's an even playing field.
Longasc
Wow, just wow...
If you like or dislike the gametype does not matter to me, but your ineptitude is amazing.
Several people here cannot beat Plurgg. Talk about 5 hours practicing. About the need of having luck to beat the guys. One blames it on his ping...
So it is too hard for you. "ANet plz nerf" so that you scrubs can make it past an early opponent easily?
Polymock does not even give a title, some PvE skills only. And as someone here already pointed out, you get quickly the hang of it and then you do not need to post testament of your epic failure on public forums.
Sometimes when reading the whines, wishes and whats here I think GW players can be classified as terrible players of any kind of game that want everything easily. And if this does not work, cry like a baby.
If you like or dislike the gametype does not matter to me, but your ineptitude is amazing.
Several people here cannot beat Plurgg. Talk about 5 hours practicing. About the need of having luck to beat the guys. One blames it on his ping...
So it is too hard for you. "ANet plz nerf" so that you scrubs can make it past an early opponent easily?
Polymock does not even give a title, some PvE skills only. And as someone here already pointed out, you get quickly the hang of it and then you do not need to post testament of your epic failure on public forums.
Sometimes when reading the whines, wishes and whats here I think GW players can be classified as terrible players of any kind of game that want everything easily. And if this does not work, cry like a baby.
BlackSephir
Hahaha, someone can't finish Polymock quests? D: Well, I'm sure some of em would be more pleased to just grind enough asura rep points to get pve skills but too bad for em...
How about "Polymock- last bastion of skill > time in pve" ?
How about "Polymock- last bastion of skill > time in pve" ?
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
Hahaha, someone can't finish Polymock quests? D: Well, I'm sure some of em would be more pleased to just grind enough asura rep points to get pve skills but too bad for em...
How about "Polymock- last bastion of skill > time in pve" ? Black are you incapable of actually posting in a thread without trying to start a flame war? And its extremely pathetic to try and dredge up the "grind arguement" in here.
We're not discussing grind in here at all, so dont even try that on. I started this to debate whether Polymock is fun and whether anything can be changed to make it more fun. Nothing about grind needs to be mentioned.
How about "Polymock- last bastion of skill > time in pve" ? Black are you incapable of actually posting in a thread without trying to start a flame war? And its extremely pathetic to try and dredge up the "grind arguement" in here.
We're not discussing grind in here at all, so dont even try that on. I started this to debate whether Polymock is fun and whether anything can be changed to make it more fun. Nothing about grind needs to be mentioned.
BlackSephir
I know we're not discussing grind here, Einstein. let's talk about skill to win all Polymock games. Skill, which people who can't win a Polymock match don't have.
If you're screaming at the screen while playing Polymock you plain suck.
If you're screaming at the screen while playing Polymock you plain suck.
Lady Lozza
I'm having a lot of trouble with this one too, but mostly I blame the fact that I don't have a decent ping, average around 300, and I never seem to block or interrupt in time. Which is kind of odd, I play interrupt ranger and mesmer just fine most of the time.
First fight was easy enough but haven't got past the guy in Vlox. I really want the skills rewarded for it too :S
First fight was easy enough but haven't got past the guy in Vlox. I really want the skills rewarded for it too :S
mage767
If you are using the 'White Polymock' pieces which have 3000HP, and you are failing, I suggest buying the gold polymock pieces from other players.
The gold pieces have 5000 HP, so even if you suck at polymock (did I say suck?), you can still beat the hardest computer opponent with 3 gold pieces.
I managed to beat all computer opponents with 2 purple pieces (which I got as polymock reward), and 1 gold naga Shaman piece that I bought. The Shaman is my trump card and I use it to win the first 2 rounds per match, and then win the 3rd with ease with extra pieces to boot.
The gold pieces have 5000 HP, so even if you suck at polymock (did I say suck?), you can still beat the hardest computer opponent with 3 gold pieces.
I managed to beat all computer opponents with 2 purple pieces (which I got as polymock reward), and 1 gold naga Shaman piece that I bought. The Shaman is my trump card and I use it to win the first 2 rounds per match, and then win the 3rd with ease with extra pieces to boot.