Order's Derv?

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Forge Runner
#1
I've heard people briefly touch on this build but i've never really understood the point behind it.

My questions are:

What are the advantages of using orders derv over a necro (if any) ?

And what would be the whole bar?

Thanks in advance.
moko
moko
??uo??o??
#2
better energy management, survival, party heals from distance.
Tab
Tab
Jungle Guide
#3
Mysticism lets you spam Orders easily. That's about it.
The bars normally OoP/OoV and Dark Fury, with OoA or Pious Renewal as an elite if you're running OoP. The rest of the bar is filled with self survival such as Vital Boon+SoPL and Mystic Regen. They can be used as a runner of sorts with SoMS or Enchanted Haste.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#4
i'd add better health management.

in pve, followup each order with signet of pious light -> you can spam 24/7 without ever having to worry about energy OR health.

for bar: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build/N_Mystic_Orders

damn smileys!
Tab
Tab
Jungle Guide
#5
That build has OoV and OoP. Yey for idiocy.
Burton2000
Burton2000
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
http://gwshack.us/3ec37

Thats the one from our old gvg build. Healing is no problem with it using vow of piety. And as oop and oov dont stack you can use dark fury instead of one of them. Also you can provide a constant hp to the party which is always nice.
Sab
Sab
Desert Nomad
#7
The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted.
blue.rellik
blue.rellik
Forge Runner
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Sab
The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted. Do you have the link? I've been looking for it everywhere thanks
ヽ(??ー`)ノ
ヽ(??ー`)ノ
Academy Page
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by blue.rellik
Do you have the link? I've been looking for it everywhere thanks
.... trying reading the thread.
zwei2stein
zwei2stein
Grotto Attendant
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Sab
The build on Wiki is trash, go with the one Burton2000 posted. feel free to fix it if its trash ... geez, its wiki

fyi, it worked just fine in generall pve /tombs/ where half of group would votekick you for not having oov.
Stormlord Alex
Stormlord Alex
Grotto Attendant
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by zwei2stein
fyi, it worked just fine in generall pve /tombs/ where half of group would votekick you for not having oov. All that proves is that the majority of people in PuGs are stupid and that PvE/Tombs is easy
Perfected Shadow
Perfected Shadow
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
Am I missing something? What's the point of Dark Fury?
ヽ(??ー`)ノ
ヽ(??ー`)ノ
Academy Page
#13
It's like double adrenaline per hit.
Perfected Shadow
Perfected Shadow
Wilds Pathfinder
#14
Quote: It's like double adrenaline per hit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Orders builds only used with B/P groups nowadays?
Earth
Earth
Always Outnumbered
#15
No, they're used in FoW etc aswell with paragons and stuff.
blue.rellik
blue.rellik
Forge Runner
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by ヽ(´ー`)ノ
.... trying reading the thread. Missed that post, my bad
moko
moko
??uo??o??
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Orders builds only used with B/P groups nowadays? ..? any heavy physical team will run an orders with them. there's more than just farming teams you know. :P