The Australian Guild Wars Initiative

King Of Da Beasts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

melb

Special Olympic Allstars [DuRR]

W/E

Wasn't sure where to post this, so here we go...

The Australian Guild Wars Initiative

Overview
As all of you know (I hope), Australia is a country found south of Asia. It has a population of 20 million people, many of which do not have access to a computer that has proper spec’s and fast enough internet to play online video games. Due to this, it is a wise assumption to say that not many Australians play video games, in comparison to other countries.

Australia has always had a small Guild Wars community. The main forum, www.anzgw.com, has less then 5 posts a day, and is a “dead” forum. There have always only been a handful of guilds dedicated to PvP, and it has always been difficult to find a guild which plays Australian Time zones, even harder to find a good one.

Australia used to have around 10 active sub - 800 GvG guilds at one time, 2 – 4 of these 10 would be in top 100 most of the time.

However, in recent times, there has been a horrendous decline in the amount of guilds and Australian Players playing Guild Wars. There can be a number of attributing factors to this decline.
~Lack of Games in Australian Play Times, causing the average wait for a game 20 minutes +.
~The Decline of Heroes Ascent (also known as Tomb of Primeval King) which also had a devastating effect on American Players.
~More recently, the lack of AT times suited to Australian players – the earliest starting time of an AT is 9:00pm GMT+10.

At this current day, in late October – early November, there is one Australian guild in the top 200 – 300, and a few others who are sitting around the 1000 – 1500 area of the ladder.

As you can see, from briefly reading above, Australia has never been a high end GvG nation. In fact, Australian players have always struggled to play. What has become of the Australian community is less guilds then the fingers on my hand and a dead game, for anyone who wishes to compete in High End GvG.

Objective
As you can see, the Australian time zone itself (Australia, New Zealand, some Hawaiians, and some Asians) has suffered a terrible blow. Ask anybody who still plays Guild Wars, and is from that corner of the world, and there is a huge problem. So this is where we come in.

As an organization, we cannot do much except PROMOTE GvG. So, basically, our objective is to “re-initiate an Australian PvP environment which will actively support all Australians looking for guilds and help to develop that environment”. This is not an easy task, so we need people – and it is NOT that hard to help – in fact it might even be FANTASTICLY AWESOME!

Means
To do this, I have thought of some programs which can be started to help promote Australian GvG and PvP alike.

1. Guest on Call: This is perhaps the one program which is most enjoyable and easy. The only thing you are being asked to do is guest for GvG’s. You are put onto a list, and posted on our website (Coming Soon!!!). Then, when a guild needs guests, they look onto the website and PM you to see if you’re available. If not, you do NOT have to come. To sign up for this, all you have to do is message me on the forum or post in this thread with your IGN, GvG Guild Experience, Character you Prefer to play and any other information you would like to disclose. Then the guilds will PM you to GvG if they need a guest.
2. The New PvP’ers Guide to PvP: This is basically a guild. If you are an Australian TIMEZONE player who is currently PvE’ing and wants to PvP, or just wants to learn some stuff about PvP, you are invited to our “learning guild”. Our experienced members will run you through HA, maybe do a few GvG’s and explain the basics of the game and GvG, and then release you into the world. To join, all you have to do is PM me on these forums with your IGN, and you may join.

If any of the above interest you, then please, feel free to apply.

NOTE : Guest on Call is only for people who can make Australian playing times, which is (basically)

Melbourne, Sydney *GMT+10* : 5pm – 3am depending on guild.
Adelaide *GMT+9:30* : 4:30pm – 2:30pm depending on guild.

If you are an American who would like to be a member for Guest on Call, please PM me, email me, message me in game or do whatever you feel possible to contact me.
We will be attempting to make a list of Australians who still play Guild Wars, in the hope to unite them.

If you are an Australian, New Zealand, Hawaii, Asian (must speak English), or in fact anyone who plays in the Australian time zone, feel free to message me in game, email me, PM me on the forums, or do whatever you feel possible to contact me. That is the only requirement, as we are looking for all types of people to help support this project, as it is hard.

Contact Details:

Email: [email protected]
In Game Name: Cassy King

Please contact me! I hope to see you all in the initiative .

We are looking for someone good with websites and forums to design us some stuff. Please contact me if you can.

gloria vander belt

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

Dragons Lair

United Farmers Of Europe[FOE]

W/

Dude im from Australia and the only thing i want is our own District, every one else has 1 but australia and new zealand(who cares about the kiwis tho?)

but it would be good to have our own district!

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote from the OP~The Decline of Heroes Ascent (also known as Tomb of Primeval King) which also had a devastating effect on American Players.



Get your info right first the Ha is not TOPK

Aussys would have more if they had a larger player base so until more people start to play nothing will change

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
~The Decline of Heroes Ascent (also known as Tomb of Primeval King) which also had a devastating effect on American Players.
Get your info right first the Ha is not TOPK

Aussys would have more if they had a larger player base so until more people start to play nothing will change
Firstly: *Aussies, not Aussys
Secondly: It is also known as TOPK
Thirdly: This is a great idea, I added your MSN
Fourthly: /signed

Jamesb_R

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2007

Ex Talionis [Law]

Mo/

It is more like an hour to two hours to get a gvg match. :-P

杀TanK杀

杀TanK杀

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gloria vander belt
Dude im from Australia and the only thing i want is our own District, every one else has 1 but australia and new zealand(who cares about the kiwis tho?)

but it would be good to have our own district!
Thanks for the support

I play in a major Aussie guild [AUS], GvG was attempted but we'd sit there waiting to get in for hours, and eventually we gave up.
But yeh, I was looking for a guild that did PvP a while back but couldn't find any because simply they are all america etc and play while im at school/asleep...

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
~The Decline of Heroes Ascent (also known as Tomb of Primeval King) which also had a devastating effect on American Players.
Get your info right first the Ha is not TOPK

Aussys would have more if they had a larger player base so until more people start to play nothing will change
You're such a moron. It USED to be Tomb of the Primeval Kings, but they made it into a PvE zone when they made Battle Isles. Learn facts before you post.


This could be a good idea, but a problem is that there aren't too many Australians left who exclusively PvP...

L.J

L.J

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Brisbane

Blades Of The Dingo[AUST]

A/

For awhile I was exclusively pvp only and trying to get into GvG, well I now am in an all Australian guild that GvG every night, but I dont get the time to do it now with real life commitments.

kaheiyeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Reapers of Solace

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Aussys would have more if they had a larger player base so until more people start to play nothing will change
Well there's not exactly anything promoting more Aussie players is there? The huge time differences in that there are practically no PvE or PvP players on when it is the evening in Australia. I've seen outposts that are deserted at these times but very much populated during the mornings, which is when other nations play, but most Aussies don't play in the morning.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

[mend] and [law] are the only ones that got into the top 100. AuS went ok I guess. [AuS] is dead and [mend] died long ago. I did see Dan from AuS in Law, and and few others but other than that, I think PvP for Australian Guilds is dead or close too.

Yobs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

Basin Amazons

N/Me

Our own district would be nice . Heck even an Asian one in our tz.

Great initiative, always wondered where all the other Aussies were hanging out,

Put me down on the guest list...warning reflexes need sharpening.

IGN Anopheles Yob.

Yobs <- Old Man playing here.

King Of Da Beasts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

melb

Special Olympic Allstars [DuRR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
[mend] and [law] are the only ones that got into the top 100. AuS went ok I guess. [AuS] is dead and [mend] died long ago. I did see Dan from AuS in Law, and and few others but other than that, I think PvP for Australian Guilds is dead or close too.
What about WtF? they were consistently top 100 as well.

Here, guys, it would help a lot if you posted a bit about the guilds you're in or that you know about that CURRENTLY EXIST. I'll start;

Lords Of The Dead [LotD]
Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

That's really as much as I know tbh, but please, tell me more, I'm sure theres some semi-aussie r1000 guilds or even better out there.

And PvE for aussie guys is dead - which is why it's being revived. There are a LOT of aussies out there or in semi-retirement - we just have to find them.

L.J

L.J

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Brisbane

Blades Of The Dingo[AUST]

A/

Im in Blades of the Dingo[AUST], I can see 2 people in this thread from our alliance. I really wish there were more people on at our time though lol. Dead districts everywhere

Vulkanyaz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Yep it sucks bigtime...

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

I would love the chance to do some PvP with some Aussies.. I always feel so restricted by time zones when I HA or GvG with americans, so I can never commit. So please sign me up! IGN is Arala Starsong, and I know that my husband would be interested as well on Trindor Fuzzywinkle.

I'm fairly inexperienced at Pvp to be honest, I'm only rank 2, and I've got about 300k balth faction mostly from gvging. But I'm very interested in learning! My hubby has his bambi, so he's sitting on 340k. We're both almost Uax though, and we can unlock any skill that's needed.

Great idea!

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Oh yea, sign me up for guesting for anything too.

Wont play: Monk, Dervish, Ritualist, Necro, Mesmer.
Will play: Ones I didn't list.

I got most PvP experience at being an ele though

And I'm from United Australian Warriors [UAW] it's 5 guilds all in the same alliance, but we treat the whole alliance like a big guild =]

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly Herro
Firstly: *Aussies, not Aussys
Secondly: It is also known as TOPK
Thirdly: This is a great idea, I added your MSN
Fourthly: /signed
secondly are you still liveing in the past bro?
TOPK is TOMB OF THE PRIMEVIL A SIMI ELITE PVE ZONE NOT PVP YOU DO NOT PVP IN THE TOPK YOU FARM FOR GREEN ITEMS FROM THE DARKNESS AT THE END.
HA=heros ascent=hall of heros PVP
TOPK=PVE not PVP the TOPK has not been a entrance to the HOH for 2 years for the love of god get your facts right.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
secondly are you still liveing in the past bro?
TOPK is TOMB OF THE PRIMEVIL A SIMI ELITE PVE ZONE NOT PVP YOU DO NOT PVP IN THE TOPK YOU FARM FOR GREEN ITEMS FROM THE DARKNESS AT THE END.
HA=heros ascent=hall of heros PVP
TOPK=PVE not PVP the TOPK has not been a entrance to the HOH for 2 years for the love of god get your facts right.
Yes yes, I know that, but some people still refer to it as TOPK as I said.

Btw, CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Of Da Beasts
What about WtF? they were consistently top 100 as well.

Here, guys, it would help a lot if you posted a bit about the guilds you're in or that you know about that CURRENTLY EXIST. I'll start;

Lords Of The Dead [LotD]
Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

That's really as much as I know tbh, but please, tell me more, I'm sure theres some semi-aussie r1000 guilds or even better out there.

And PvE for aussie guys is dead - which is why it's being revived. There are a LOT of aussies out there or in semi-retirement - we just have to find them.
Huh? [WtF] Witness the Fitness as far as I know were never top 100. They were top 300, but I think they were all jealous of [mend] and hell even SOULBURNER hated mend because they back then played triple smite.

I may be wrong, but the last Aussie guild to hit was [Law] as far as I know.

King Of Da Beasts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

melb

Special Olympic Allstars [DuRR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
Huh? [WtF] Witness the Fitness as far as I know were never top 100. They were top 300, but I think they were all jealous of [mend] and hell even SOULBURNER hated mend because they back then played triple smite.

I may be wrong, but the last Aussie guild to hit was [Law] as far as I know.
Law was the last.

But WtF has finished a few seasons on 50, WtF was better then mend at one point and mend disbanded a long time. Very recently, in the end of WtF's period, we hit rank 300, but that was mainly due to lack of aussies , bad games etc etc.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Of Da Beasts
Law was the last.

But WtF has finished a few seasons on 50, WtF was better then mend at one point and mend disbanded a long time. Very recently, in the end of WtF's period, we hit rank 300, but that was mainly due to lack of aussies , bad games etc etc.
[mend] disbanded a long time ago, yes. But I do wonder in that point if you do hit top 50, was mend around that time? I doubt it! [mend] disbanded before NF was released. I lot of things were different back then, and damn its so much easier to hit top 100-200 now than back when [mend] was around. Active guilds, laddar system, more balance and simply more competitive.

King Of Da Beasts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

melb

Special Olympic Allstars [DuRR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
[mend] disbanded a long time ago, yes. But I do wonder in that point if you do hit top 50, was mend around that time? I doubt it! [mend] disbanded before NF was released. I lot of things were different back then, and damn its so much easier to hit top 100-200 now than back when [mend] was around. Active guilds, laddar system, more balance and simply more competitive.
We were around. See , Witness the Fitness and mend both came out of a split from a guild called We Are the Force. Then they both excelled, but WtF generally did better then mend. Mend disbanded, If I remember correctly, post-factions.

IslandHermet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holly Herro
Yes yes, I know that, but some people still refer to it as TOPK as I said.

Btw, CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
well have you ever thought that the reason aussies are falling apart as GW players is because they still call the HA TOPK???

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
well have you ever thought that the reason aussies are falling apart as GW players is because they still call the HA TOPK???
If you read my whole message, it said that some people still call HA TOPK. I never said Aussies. I've seen Europeans do it, Americans, English and stuff. Even Eskimos. Now I've got school so I must be leaving you.

s w o r d y

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Of Da Beasts
We were around. See , Witness the Fitness and mend both came out of a split from a guild called We Are the Force. Then they both excelled, but WtF generally did better then mend. Mend disbanded, If I remember correctly, post-factions.
"the great" Seventh Sea Scurvy (oh yeah, so great) finished 18th at the end of propechies. That was half aussie half late night americans. No problem getting gvg's back then when Korea was in full swing. But now, anytime betweem 4pm and 11pm aussie time is a 1 hour wait for a match. Gay.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
well have you ever thought that the reason aussies are falling apart as GW players is because they still call the HA TOPK???
Most good/old players still call it Tombs. You ass. Gtfo out of the thread and gb2/pve.

There was a couple guilds in our timezone that were top 100, not all were Aussie guilds, but they had some Aussie players. That was a while ago though...

Harrad

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

Overclockers Australia

Mo/

Fenix is an awesome player and modest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
That was a while ago though...
Fenix come PvP again, King could sure use your expertise ;p.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
There was a couple guilds in our timezone that were top 100, not all were Aussie guilds, but they had some Aussie players. That was a while ago though...
It wasn't exactly hard to get top 100 back then, to be honest.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
It wasn't exactly hard to get top 100 back then, to be honest.
True, but I mean, it's still an achievement It's harder now because you can either ladder grind for AGES, or do ATs...both of which are boring...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrad
Fenix is an awesome player and modest.



Fenix come PvP again, King could sure use your expertise ;p.
Heh, I love you Harrad <3

I'm upgrading my computer in 2 weeks, so I'll GvG more then.

Wolala Wagaga

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

i will sign up too (aussie live in sydney)
am R5 glad with 2mil bath, can play any role

<--- IGN

aeronox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

I had started making this today, and halfway through I thought to check if anyone else had already made something similar. And I found this topic

So here's what I threw together tonight:

http://www.augw.net

It's a community for Australian & NZ players. Essentially what anzgw.com used to be, but hopefully I can maintain 6 alive forums rather than 20 dead ones.

I have no idea how this will be received. I haven't even told my guildies yet...

I'll be contacting every Au/NZ GW player on my friends list (or more likely, those that I know are leaders of guilds) and encouraging them to sign up, whether PVP or not.

Vl Vl D

Vl Vl D

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Australia

[DVDF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IslandHermet
Quote from the OP~The Decline of Heroes Ascent (also known as Tomb of Primeval King) which also had a devastating effect on American Players.

Get your info right first the Ha is not TOPK

Aussys would have more if they had a larger player base so until more people start to play nothing will change
Why come here and act the way you do and are you a parrot or do you just like repeating what the grape text writes? Caps shows your a nubet and I think its best if you stuck with pve.

J O S S I A H

J O S S I A H

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Death Watch Legion

Mo/

Nice to see the Aussies coming out of the woodwork.

I think we need an Aussie district, GVG & PVP ... not phasing me [dthl]

King Of Da Beasts

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

melb

Special Olympic Allstars [DuRR]

W/E

GREAT NEWS!

Well, I've decided, and spoken to Nox, since I want to (personally) make Aus GW timezone lively again, I'm going to use Nox's website as our main base. So basically, what that means is that I'll be posting announcements in his forums, since augw.net is the new place to be. So in the guild recruitment section, any aussie who'd like to come GvG can join simply put your IGN, and I promise, you'll be invited.

web: augw.net

yule

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

The aussie community is one of those weird little inbred circles with way too many domestics to ever be a real force. All the semi decent groups are far too selective and die from inactivity/eventual drama. All the non-selective groups get an influx of people that cant play and eventually the semi decent players split, form a selective guild that then dies.

Oh and then people quit the game.

A recipe for success if ever i saw one.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by yule
The aussie community is one of those weird little inbred circles with way too many domestics to ever be a real force. All the semi decent groups are far too selective and die from inactivity/eventual drama. All the non-selective groups get an influx of people that cant play and eventually the semi decent players split, form a selective guild that then dies.

Oh and then people quit the game.

A recipe for success if ever i saw one.

Ahh, so true. I actually think from the past aussie guilds, the most I ever see is the starting and falling of them all the time. But most decent Australian PvPers are have either left or joined another guild thats composed of intentional players.

stuntharley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Critical Chop [cC]

W/

At 8pm AUS EST Its easy to get a group, I dont pug at all. Because the Euro's are on.

On weekends wake up at 11 if you want to HA.


King of Da Beats is 12. I don't take anything he says seriously.

=)

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by stuntharley
King of Da Beats is 12. I don't take anything he says seriously.
I'm going to have to agree...

Darren Blacktail

Darren Blacktail

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

Other End Of Your Internet ^.^

United Aussie Warriors [AUS]

A/

In the whole scheme of things...ehh
but i do agree with gloria vander belt i wouldnt mind our own districts

gloria vander belt

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

Dragons Lair

United Farmers Of Europe[FOE]

W/

HOW the F*** do u know not alot of aussies PvP, ur american times are on when us aussies are a sleep, when we play during the day its practically empty of americans, and i run into a buttload of other australians