The Australian Guild Wars Initiative

Burningz0rz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2007

AUST

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by yule
The aussie community is one of those weird little inbred circles with way too many domestics to ever be a real force. All the semi decent groups are far too selective and die from inactivity/eventual drama. All the non-selective groups get an influx of people that cant play and eventually the semi decent players split, form a selective guild that then dies.

Oh and then people quit the game.

A recipe for success if ever i saw one.
i'd have to agree with Press C, there is far too much drama and guild changing among the aussie pvp scene and its holding us back.

Need to keep the troops together and running the same build/position long enough to actually get comfortable in it and get some wins.

Im not pointing any fingers but there are a select bunch of players who love conflict and drama and their names always seem to come up when i hear about guilds disbanding and from people venting their grievences.

erk

erk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

Weeknights for GvG in Australia, around 10am GMT you mainly get to play local Australian guilds, the wait can be long especially now as the Uni exams are chewing up a lots of players time studying hard for the next few weeks.

It gets a bit better at about 11:30am GMT when a few Asian guilds start to get on, then an hour or so later a few European guilds start trickling through. By that time you have to go to sleep. I hardly ever see any American guilds. They do crop up in AT's though at strange hours, but the forfeit rate in AT's is a bit of a joke so you end up playing the same couple of guilds over and over. The timing of the AT's is woeful for Australia, Monday and Tuesday nights are it. If the rounds were 6 hours apart instead of 8, that would make a huge difference.

jcrayon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

Legion of WolfSong

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by aeronox
So here's what I threw together tonight:
http://www.augw.net

It's a community for Australian & NZ players. Essentially what anzgw.com used to be, but hopefully I can maintain 6 alive forums rather than 20 dead ones.
Nice Work. We will support you!

-JC
Legion of Wolfsong
http://wolfsong.freeforums.org/portal.php

Juff Spufalufagus

Juff Spufalufagus

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

South Australia

Pen Island [Dong]

N/

Interesting development on all this.

http://www.augw.net has gathered a fair bit of attention from Australian players, most notably the United Aussie Warriors [AUS] that received Guild of the week status.

This thread here is an epic meeting between [AUS] and other members of the Australian guild wars community.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

pointless thread.... Aus pvp wont get any better and never will.
Timezones are too much of a problem for Australian people.

You also do realize we only have 20 million people. Compare it with Europe, America and Asia and you will see what i mean.

Also having Australian district is pointless, not enough people and id rather play in an american district where you can have more people.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by masta_yoda
pointless thread.... Aus pvp wont get any better and never will.
Timezones are too much of a problem for Australian people.

You also do realize we only have 20 million people. Compare it with Europe, America and Asia and you will see what i mean.

Also having Australian district is pointless, not enough people and id rather play in an american district where you can have more people.
Post full of fail, Aussie are PvPing in some of the best guild in GW, sadly few PvP with Aussie only guilds because of the problems that aussies face, lackluster players.

Timezones aren't really a problem, your looking at it from the wrong perpective, think about what it is that Aussies can do to change all that? Answer a hell of a lot.

Oi Oi Oi, for Roo!

Solus Spartan

Solus Spartan

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Australia

[Lawl]

Mo/

/signed.

Need more pro Pve Aussie guilds


Btw I'm Australian

s w o r d y

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Spartan
/signed.

Need more pro Pve Aussie guilds


Btw I'm Australian
I'll give aussie PvP the whisper, if you're no good after 30 months, you'll still be no good after another 30.

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solus Spartan
/signed.

Need more pro Pve Aussie guilds


Btw I'm Australian
Our problem with PvE is like our problem with PvP, its not the lack of players interested but rather there all joining a game that is international.

Why play with your countrymen when you can be part of a guild/alliance of Amerkans, Canadians, Euros and even South africans.

And Aussie PvE or PvP aren't out there promoting themselves, I mean our own fan forums died.

LolTimesSeven

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2007

Ex Talionis[Law]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Our problem with PvE is like our problem with PvP, its not the lack of players interested but rather there all joining a game that is international.

Why play with your countrymen when you can be part of a guild/alliance of Amerkans, Canadians, Euros and even South africans.

And Aussie PvE or PvP aren't out there promoting themselves, I mean our own fan forums died.

Ever been to www.augw.net ?

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by LolTimesSeven
Ever been to www.augw.net ?
Yes I have, its alright for a new forum.

The old forum was better in its hayday, but there atleast trying.

If you check Guild Registry section you will see my point.

All those guild, most people would never have heard of, and I'm sure less then 1/3 are healthy guilds. Why its too ea to create a guild, and its far to easy to join a guild that already huge.

Most people are only concerned with the numbers of people in your guild and the activity you do.

Australian players don't want to play with other Australians.

masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Post full of fail, Aussie are PvPing in some of the best guild in GW, sadly few PvP with Aussie only guilds because of the problems that aussies face, lackluster players.

Timezones aren't really a problem, your looking at it from the wrong perpective, think about what it is that Aussies can do to change all that? Answer a hell of a lot.

Oi Oi Oi, for Roo!
Sorry the post is a fact, how many Aussie guilds out there can compare to the better known American and Euro guilds in terms of success and achievement. I dont think you can name a single one. The point is that Aussie's dont want to gvg with Aussies because there are hardly any Aussie guilds and playing with them wont get you anywhere. Sorry this is probably a bit direct and you or others may find it offensive but its a fact. The only way i can see this improving is maybe if theres a decent Australian guild that can be a role model for others out there and promote. Otherwise not.


Regarding time zone: Sorry if your a person who can spend his morning and afternoon playing gw. Many others have work and myself have school. By the time many come home from work and school, a gvg would take hours to form and then run for 1 or 2 games before disbanding. As for the weekends the timezone may be better for Aussies but im sure some wouldnt want to give up there weekend to play guild wars. There is no way to improve the timezone which is another fact.

To answer your last question, "think about what we can do?"

i think after almost 3 years since this game is out im pretty sure people have already thought of every single possible solution to mend this problem.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
[mend] and [law] are the only ones that got into the top 100. AuS went ok I guess. [AuS] is dead and [mend] died long ago. I did see Dan from AuS in Law, and and few others but other than that, I think PvP for Australian Guilds is dead or close too.
Hey where you in Mend by any chance? Dreamwind? I used to be in Mend, fun times! Don't think any of us play anymore, I might get back in for GW2.

DreamRunner

DreamRunner

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
Hey where you in Mend by any chance? Dreamwind? I used to be in Mend, fun times! Don't think any of us play anymore, I might get back in for GW2.
I was in AuS for a long time. I guested with you guys many many times along side with Hewus who also was in AuS and played with you guys.

Mend is mostly dead, yes and everyone I knew mostly from mend died with it.

aeronox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

I created www.augw.net

Nothing interesting will come of it until GW2. I have stopped playing GW. When GW2 does come out, I will do everything possible to see our community start off on the right foot.

Experienced

Experienced

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Serenity

Mo/

Would like to apply for Guest on Call.. Love to GvG although it's hard being in GMT +10h..

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Im down to guest for GVG whenever im on.

IGN: Luminarus Vitae
I prefer to play monk, although i can play any character. I have lots of PVP knowledge, and a decent amount of experience. I have everything unlocked.

PM me when im on and ill guest for u assuming im not busy with somethin else.

Mimo08

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

D/Mo

This is a fantastic initiative! . I also strongly agree Australia/New Zealand need's its OWN DISTRICT !..........

I seems like a "oversight" of localization to not have such a District.

If ArenaNet were REALLY sharp, they would issue LOCALISED STICKERS on the Guild War game box's MAKING IT CLEAR! to the public, that

there is district available for the gamers Country of origin.

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

Mo/

District = server in different location as far as I know

Make the game moar inactive! Spread the players up moar! hurd this waz gud.

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

I was in TTA when it got into the top 100, be it for a day, hilarious peoples reactions in HA. Aussie/NZ guild are definately win. Great times with fellow Australians.

xXDemonXx

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2008

Soldiers Of Untold Legends[SOUL]

R/

we got no one to play with in our times QQ

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Australian competition is so epic- Blades of the Dingo/yMcA/etc. ownzz rite?. I'm so glad I'm in an EvIL/WM smurf. @_@

Alpha Moth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

I think Australia should have its own district like Spanish/Polish/Russian etc so Australians can go there and speak Australian not many people can understand our language.

On a serious note, not enough Australians play GW for it to have its own district.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Aussie Aussie Aussie!

Yea we deffinitely need our own District, American players are just too think-headed and too proud to help and it's not like we have euro players because most dont speak English.

This is a glorious idea.
/signed

howlinghobo

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

Sydney

One Man Clan

W/Mo

im so glad i found this thread, hope this idea turns out as great as it sounds

jool

jool

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sunny Australia

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by howlinghobo
im so glad i found this thread, hope this idea turns out as great as it sounds
ditto.......

Bringer of Woo

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Minnestota

United Aussie Warriors

Rt/

I have recently joined an aussie guild and I live in the frigid artic of Minnesota (Central North America).

I am on CST for N. America but since I work graveyard shift I play during times that most americans are not on and european times don't jive either.
an aussie guild could recruit more for american players if you mention if they play late night then that is prime time for an aussie guild.

I find most of my guild/alliance on when I play and it is working out great.

good luck w/ recruitment.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

No, Australia and New Zealand don't need their own district, just a server so we can actually interrupt 1 second casts.

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
No, Australia and New Zealand don't need their own district, just a server so we can actually interrupt 1 second casts.
Oh yeah. I love it when I stop moving, see someone use bull's strike and still get KD'ed thanks to delay.

DreamWind

DreamWind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Mo

I just saw this thread randomly. So bump.

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
Hey where you in Mend by any chance? Dreamwind? I used to be in Mend, fun times! Don't think any of us play anymore, I might get back in for GW2.
Hi Misha. Message me up sometime. I'd like to play with you again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamRunner
I was in AuS for a long time. I guested with you guys many many times along side with Hewus who also was in AuS and played with you guys.

Mend is mostly dead, yes and everyone I knew mostly from mend died with it.
I think I remember you? Many of the people from Mend still play, just not in guild form anymore. You should message me up too.

All the things said in this thread about Australian hours are true though...its very hard to find games. It was hard 2 years ago and its still hard today. Recently we had a group together and there were ZERO other guilds playing, so we had to HA. Australian times are really bad for Guild Wars. Not to mention every Aussie I know has terrible ping due to the GW/Vent servers tending to be nowhere near Australia.

nix1016

nix1016

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
No, Australia and New Zealand don't need their own district, just a server so we can actually interrupt 1 second casts.
I concur... there's nothing worse than having 500ms+ lag over others purely because of our location...

Aussie Boy

Aussie Boy

Alcoholic

Join Date: Mar 2007

Australia

W/

Yeah I'd love our own server might cut my high pings.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Would love for the ping to much lower.. Under 200 would be good you know. Would love for that green circle outside of the outposts

Is this still a happening thing? I'm GMT+10 and love pvp.

Ghostcell

Ghostcell

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

=VX9=

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha Moth
I think Australia should have its own district like Spanish/Polish/Russian etc so Australians can go there and speak Australian not many people can understand our language.

On a serious note, not enough Australians play GW for it to have its own district.

haha its so true, if you try talking in aussie slang to an american they have no idea what your going on about.

wu is me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Sigh. I rlly hate playing with aussies, theyr so slow on their infuses that it comes AFTER the spike, I mean wtf? Aren’t infuses supposed to come before?? :P

Sarcasm aside, I’d love an aussie server so I can play with fellow aussies without worrying about some American team ripping us apart with interrupts, and superior infuses, and so that I can play ranger without worrying about the fact that some European/American can do an equivalently good job with half the effort.

In the mean time put me on the guest list. I still refuse to play infuse/ranger, although my Pd’s still competitive if ya want it , otherwise i mostly play prot, and sometimes midline, and don't expect me to call tactics if i run frontline =P.

<-ign

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

we really need a new recruiting place for aussies, its hard trying to recruit players in the same timezone that will actually stay (join-ZOMG nubs-quit).

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

You speak English and your in Asia. How does this give you your own district? Your basing districts on culture and the only reason we really have different districts in the first place is the language barrier.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Thizzle, if you read the thread you would know that:
1) while a district would be nice - our colloquial language is significantly different from that of the US and UK, however most of us think we don't need it, and
2) what we really want is our own server so maybe, just maybe we can be conpetitive. No Aussie I know gets a ping under 200 - EVER. We can't play interrupt in pvp and we can't play infuse, so it kind of limits our options.

Remember that in "north america" 3 languages are spoken. English, Spanish, and French, yet on the NA server there is only one language district.
The districts while mainly based on language are actually completely arbitrary.

Unfortunately for us we will never get out own server. So we will just have to deal with pings of 400+ during peak times.

payne

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lkky00245
sod off noob..anywho support anyone with initiative ;P go for it :P

Eragon Zarroc

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

Celebrate for us Aussies!!! They finally gave us the respect that is due and created for us our own districts. Here is me getting ready to go through the ring of fire with my buddy there on the radar.

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