buy previous festival hats

Gucio

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Poland

Mo/W

/notsigned

It's supposed to be exclusively for the participants. I am missing two masks, I would really like them, but it would be unfair with those who participated in those 2 events and got them normally.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Anet has already stated that all that 'one-time' content will stay exclusive.

Collector Editions, Event items...

But, truth is that character COULD get hats, but had to throw them away due to storage problems or something like that.

So, ther could be one option, limited to the Day of creation of the character.
So a character could get a chance to get a mask that existed after her creation, but before the addition of the hat makers.


One thing I think would be could is a Yule hat/miniature donation.
Charaters talk to an NPC and give aways stuff, and that stuff is stored in gifts and received randomly in outposts by other characters, amongst the other gifts.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Add the requirement that your account must have existed for a certain event and /signed. Otherwise, you're just out of luck.

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

/not signed

The event hats are a sort of prestige thing to say "I was there".

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gucio
/notsigned

It's supposed to be exclusively for the participants. I am missing two masks, I would really like them, but it would be unfair with those who participated in those 2 events and got them normally.
ok, i'll say this again... what about those of us that DID get them, but deleted them to make room in inventories/storage before the hat trader arrived

Spazzer

Spazzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

USA

Team Asshat [Hat]

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
ok, i'll say this again... what about those of us that DID get them, but deleted them to make room in inventories/storage before the hat trader arrived
There is likely no way to prove that you ever got it in the first place. Sorry for your loss.

There are those of us who kept every hat given to us with the belief that they were prestige items to be shown around to say "I was there". That attitude persisted until the introduction of the hat trader, which allowed us to have some storage space.

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I want to say that as a player, I disagree with this request. Whether it's "one per account" or not, it reduces the coolness factor of having "been there and done that" for the events. Some people make a lot of extraordinary effort to attend the event. Suddenly, that doesn't matter, you can do a quest, years later, and appear to have veterancy you do not, or appear to have been where you were not.

I know that this opinion may sound harsh or ungiving, and I don't want to give that impression. I'm truly sorry that not everyone was able to attend. I'm sorry that some bought the game later. But the hats are part of the experience, and making them available by other means is hardly any more reasonable than just selling them in the in-game store, which we have said we will never do. As we have said we will never sell the Collector's Edition emotes, but which we're asked to do daily.

Again, I'm very sorry that people missed getting the earlier items, and I do apprecaite that this may have happened for any number of reasons. My own opinions notwithstanding, I certainly will relay this request. Maybe the designers will implement this idea, but I rather suspect that they will not, for the reasons I've mentioned above.




quoted for relevance.

Can I get a merge into the quest related thread on same thing?

Same horse different end.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

hey I missed the beta pre order stuff, can we have that too????

really the idea of special event stuff being available after the event---years after the event is a no go. Either you were there or not, those of us who were have something they can show off, those who werent sorry.

I'd say no to making them available for all. (the special would then be gone).

sorry to those of you who missed out.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

cant we trade our silly scarecrow for the furious pumpkin? id much prefer the cool pumpkin

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

/notsigned

Event hats are to show that you are either a veteran player or were there for that experience.

I've been playing for almost 30 months, missed out on the first halloween hat (didn't know about it til it was too late), I preordered Faction's and was able to get the tengu mask but was busy that weekend so I missed that, and I also missed the dragon mask from the first dragon fest because I was on vaction that year, I wish I had the first halloween mask but I'm not going to agree with everyone getting it, been playing for ~30 months and someone today could just go to the store and buy a GW campaign and get all the hats that veteran GW players got 2 years ago, ruins the veteran status.

People may call it elitist but it's not, veterans have been playing the game longer it doesn't make them elitist, if you are really that upset over veterans having stuff you don't, realise you can't have everything. It's something you learn as a child, life isn't fair.

And lol @ allowing everyone to get divine aura, people had to pay extra to gain that from the CE.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

[quote=cosyfiep]hey I missed the beta pre order stuff, can we have that too????

really the idea of special event stuff being available after the event---years after the event is a no go. Either you were there or not, those of us who were have something they can show off, those who werent sorry.
/quote]
and again, what about those of us that (annoyingly) had to delete hats to make room in inventories/storage before the hat trader came along???

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
and again, what about those of us that (annoyingly) had to delete hats to make room in inventories/storage before the hat trader came along???
You chose to do that, tough luck.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrk247
You chose to do that, tough luck.
no, i had no choice, my choice was delete hats, or delete other characters for Mule space... and THAT wasn't gonna happen

why should Vets like me be penalized for the festival hat trader taking two years to appear?

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

making them available to anyone would cheapen their rarity and "cool" factor.
Its a symbol that "youve been there" lol.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
no, i had no choice, my choice was delete hats, or delete other characters for Mule space... and THAT wasn't gonna happen

why should Vets like me be penalized for the festival hat trader taking two years to appear?
You should have merchanted or sold off some of the crap items you were hoarding. I mean, I know its tough. I'm a pack rat myself in this game, but if I wanted something like a holiday hat badly enough, I found a way to keep it and sell that req 10 near perfect weapon. Heck, with inscriptions, the items you probablly didn't delete in exchange for deleting your holiday hat are probablly worthless.

It was your choice.

Tender Wolf

Tender Wolf

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2007

All over Tyria, Cantha, & Elona

The Eternal Night Vanguard [TEN]

R/

I'd like that idea. There are some hats I didn't get because I wasn't playing the game early enough. Signed.

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You should have merchanted or sold off some of the crap items you were hoarding. I mean, I know its tough. I'm a pack rat myself in this game, but if I wanted something like a holiday hat badly enough, I found a way to keep it and sell that req 10 near perfect weapon. Heck, with inscriptions, the items you probablly didn't delete in exchange for deleting your holiday hat are probablly worthless.

It was your choice.
Although it was our choice, we and other players of our gaming time shouldn't have to be penalized because the Hat fellow didn't come around for two years.

Break it down like this my friend:

When the first Pumpkin hat came out, we had one slot of storage which had 20 extra spaces. Those extra spaces where often filled with Dyes, Gwen related items and access items for our armors. Our characters might have other things like our Salvage Kits and ID kits. They would also hold our Armor as well, especially the ones we use to change our attributes with.

They would also hold our weapons, most at the time where 2 hand wielders (wand/offhand or sword/shield), so there is 2 more spots xAttributes = 4x2 = 8 Weapons/Offhands. So, let's see..

8 Weapons
4/5 Headpieces
2 ID/Salvage

That amount there already takes up your smallest bags half way through correct?

So, your character would also be holding items that he/she was farming for at the time. Or, modifications and runes that where valuable also because we didn't have enough storage (and, at the time, we where requesting such).


After all that, you might on average as a younger player as many of us First Hat people where, wouldn't have deleted that "Useless Hat" for a more suitable spot to hold up your 250 Bolts of Linen right?

We should plainly be allowed to craft our old hats if we deleted them prior to the Hat Maker. And no one, and I mean no one, try to argue that there is no way of knowing if you had the hat. ANet keeps track of everything, they are able to go back and search if they decided to implement this.

Roo Ella

Roo Ella

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

Australia

Oz

E/R

/Notsigned

I missed a few of the hats / masks from working or other things at the time.
My fault entirely and so i live with it.
Hats are given to show you were there at the event and it means something special
To just go give them out now or a trader ?
NO

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

IDK. Personally I see this as a badge. I was there you were not. Thats a valid thing... people coming into the game now will have their achievements and awards for the holidays THEY participate in, But why cheapen the awards and gifts that were given to people actually that attended the events from the beginning. I'm sorry you did not get one of the 13 hats prior to today. hell I missed 2 hats myself because I didn't plan for New Years eve the first year so I didn't get the 1st Santa hat or horns. But hey the people that WERE there and participated in the event DID get them... Good for them... I wasnt there I didn't get them. BOO HOO? No I'm not that Pathetic.

The point is it serves as a badge of Honor that is Earned through participation. If you were not there you didn't get one; and thats a Just a true condition that should be upheld. If you participate in an event you get one. If not you do not. And for those that were not there, well sorry you came to the game so late... All I can say is where were you when it happened the first time? Obviously doing something more important to you then getting a Festive hat for a game you didn't play at the time...

SO. NOW you expect to get something you do not earn? Why? Cause you just want it so give it to you dammit!! You are selfish n00b that expects everything given to you on demand!!! Why should you get to say I was there when you were not? Sure I got a Tengu mask, as did all the people that got Factions the day it was released... They participated in the exclusive event and they got the reward for being there and supporting the game from the launch. Its a typical promotion. Just like Mini pets in magazines. If you dish out the cash and get the edition when its available you get one... If you do not well you don't.

Promotions are not unique to Guild wars... Other MMOs have them, and guess what? IF you are not there for the event... you don't get shit there either... So why should Guild Wars turn around and make participation awards available to people that were not even a part of the game back then?

Its not like there are not other options, and add to that these items are more optional then anything else because there is NO armor on the festive items. So if you make it a part of your armor sets, you are going around with no armor on your head... Congrats your dead.

I'm sorry you were not there to earn one yourself. Its not like the game was not out. So if you dint get one that was your choice. You didn't buy the game before the events past, or you opted to not attend a past event, Whatever the reason. If you were there and participated you got what you deserved...

I don't think Anet will ever cater to this injustice. There will ALWAYS... I say it again ALWAYS be something in the game that the people that have been here from the beginning will get now that the people that JUST joined the community did not get or will not get till they are in the game an equal amount of time... But by then the original people we get something else better then them because they were in the game from the beginning. Why is that so hard to perceive? Its not arrogance, its not selfishness, its not greed... ITS FACT. We were here... you were not. Period. Thats all there is to say on that.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

I read and respect Gaile's point of view on this and Arenanet may have the same official stance. But for the hats they can change it if they want. The people who have the hats as a "I've been there" kind of this have had it for a long time. What they can do, which I suggest they do, is at some point of time make all the hats available to everyone in some way. I don't mean just type /hats and surprise, you have all the hats. I mean in some way thru quests or a price in gold or something. But available in some way.

That point of time shouldn't be now. It should be right before GW2 comes out as a final hurrah for GW1(keeping the servers open for GW1 of course for as long as there are gamers). That way those who had the "I've been there" thing still have had it for a while. But then the focus will be on GW2. It's Anet's choice of course and I know choosing to do this will make people happy and will probably boost even more sales in GW1, even with GW2 out.

As for the Divine Aura, they can at least make a Consumable that gives this to people temporarily.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

I am suprised this thread isnt closed.
/notsigned

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

/notsigned

I like my masks, I was there for 2005 Halloween and I have a hat to show it. If someone that just bought the game could buy the hat, they would just become junk to the older players.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

/notsigned

I've missed out on hats I liked too but the hat itself isn't important. If anyone can get them they mean NOTHING. The fact that people have them shows that they've been supporting the game and were there as part of the community for those events.

The only reason the hats are cool is because you can't just get them. I mean at this point why not let people buy stuff in the CE boxes or hell why not lower the price on all elite armor so everyone can get it?

People take the hate towards "elitist" attitude too far. There needs to be a balance. Anyone can be an arrogant dick with that attitude and anyone can take the meaning out of everything by completely removing that attitude.

Accept that there are some things everyone can't have I know thats harder and harder for our generation to understand since we can get so much so easily but its true.

Edit: For the people who deleted their hats for space: I'm really sorry you had to do that or felt you had to. If theres a way for them to check that I'm totally up for you being able to make another one at the festival hat NPC but otherwise, no, I don't think everyone in the game should be able to make one of those prized badges just for the few who deleted their once a year hats while others sacrificed to keep them.

Entreri

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

They need to make the next christmas hat a paper bag with a big red 'L' on it for loser. Then all the hat elitists here will have appropriate headwear (and you know they'll collect it).

They should just make all the themed hats for that holiday available at the next celebration. Like there's a way to get any of the past christmas hats at a christmas celebration or all the halloween hats at a halloween celebration. GW is already waning, no new material planned, so it's probably just going to be like one more round of these holiday festivals anyway.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Meh, IMO just make it so that there is a quest you have to do (perhaps of master difficulty), and then pay a fee to get a hat. However, this would only be available if your account existed during the time of the original event, and the quest would only become available during the next event.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
I dunno, some like the Tengu mask were meant to be special treats for people who preordered Factions.
I should have a Tengu hat but I don't. Why? Anet shipping issues or some crap like that delayed my copy of Factions. Same shipping issues happened with Nightfall. Same shipping issues happened with EotN. I think Anet doesn't really give much of a crap about what happens to Australia.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

/signed

I've missed out on a few events that give you hats and such >_<
So that'd be really nice...maybe it could be 500-1k to craft a hat.

xvix83

xvix83

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Singapore (GMT +8)

/not signed

the various masks are to show what event you gone to and stuff, i really like my dragon mask and if people can buy one at any crafter, thats not fair for people like me who actually did all those quests and such...

Neriandal Freit

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Spiral of The Red Rose, Kryta (Columbus, IN)

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Meh, IMO just make it so that there is a quest you have to do (perhaps of master difficulty), and then pay a fee to get a hat. However, this would only be available if your account existed during the time of the original event, and the quest would only become available during the next event.

You know, not being a fan of a crafter to devalue the mask for those who participated in the event, this idea is actually fairly decent idea...

Throw it at Masters, make a player pay 5-10k for a Mask and materials (lot of materials too) and the player gets what she/he wants and becomes a bit of a gold sink too...

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

if and only if you have to go thou what you need to do for the Mini Moa - have all 4 chapters / expansions use lots of in-game $, crafting materials, collectors items, and go to hard to reach places on the map(s).

edit: one more thing the festival hat collector would not be able to make copies...

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linksys
I read and respect Gaile's point of view on this and Arenanet may have the same official stance. But for the hats they can change it if they want. The people who have the hats as a "I've been there" kind of this have had it for a long time. What they can do, which I suggest they do, is at some point of time make all the hats available to everyone in some way. I don't mean just type /hats and surprise, you have all the hats. I mean in some way thru quests or a price in gold or something. But available in some way.

That point of time shouldn't be now. It should be right before GW2 comes out as a final hurrah for GW1(keeping the servers open for GW1 of course for as long as there are gamers). That way those who had the "I've been there" thing still have had it for a while. But then the focus will be on GW2. It's Anet's choice of course and I know choosing to do this will make people happy and will probably boost even more sales in GW1, even with GW2 out.

As for the Divine Aura, they can at least make a Consumable that gives this to people temporarily.
I don't think you understand the concept of having the first masks and divine aura. Anet is not going to make a consumable or anything that copies the divine aura effect, it's for those special few players that bought the original GW CE. And what makes you want the aura and earlier hats? Because other people have them? So what. Re-read Gaile's post and realise that there's a slim chance the hats will be craftable, but the divine aura (lol) gl with that.

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

/notsigned

It's not elitist, because these are just goofy souvenirs. I'm missing most of them myself.

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

/not signed

Why? Why should people get older hats because they want them? It was a reward for having guild wars from the beginning. It will make orginal yulecaps and such useless to us veteran users.

politicsxxox

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Me/N

/not signed

-Buying festival hats would defeat the purpose of being at the holiday event would'nt it?

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

/not signed. If you weren't here (or decided to delete it), you shouldn't get it...simple as that.

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

/not signed

I missed out on the first Halloween and I really like that pumkin head better than the next one they gave us. But I am not crying about it. I missed out and thats my tough luck. Since then I have made it a point to get every single hat that has came out. Ya, it DOES make me feel special. What about it?

You didn't make it to the event? Tough luck.

lakatz

lakatz

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Temptress
/not signed

Why? Why should people get older hats because they want them? It was a reward for having guild wars from the beginning. It will make orginal yulecaps and such useless to us veteran users.
Oh? Are they useful now? I always thought they were strictly for aesthetics. What do you use them for?

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

/notsigned

I don't see why anyone would care anyways, since they are virtually useless outside of an outpost

I Will Heal You Ally

I Will Heal You Ally

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

In my HoM

Canthan Refugees [TOGO]

E/Rt

/notsigned

I like the rareness although I don't have much it looks cool on older chars

Gucio

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Poland

Mo/W

/notsigned

I have the tengu mask, the original 2005 pupkin crown and yule cap. This kind of stuff is why it's been cool to play GW from the beggining. Newer players shouldn't get that stuff just like "that".

genofreek

genofreek

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

USA

Jenova's Apocolyptic Remains [JAR]

D/

I know it's unpopular and won't be put into effect, but IMO? /signed.

I think it'd be a good goldsink, plus I'd really like to have some of the hats I missed because I've only been playing for just over a year. I realize there's elitism attached to Tengu masks and such, but I wish there was a way for me to get the pumpkin and witch hats. I had the game, but storms/downed power lines kept me off the internet for 48 hours around Halloween and I missed the event. Damned shame. I'd pay plenty in gold and rare crafting materials to get at some of them.